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Blazers/Pelicans/Magic 

Post#1 » by Blazers20 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:48 pm

ORL: Williams-Simons
NOP: Scoot-Clingan-Grant-Isaac
PHO: Jabari
POR: Black-Zion-Ingram-Bol-1st Round (ORL)

Magic gets another scorer that can create his own shots and get a backup big.

Pelicans get younger pieces to add to Murphy, Jones and Missi.

Scoot-Jones-Murphy-Missi-Clingan

Blazers try to rebuild with Deni-Sharpe-Ingram-Zion. They get to take a look at Ingram and if he doesn’t fit they let him walk along with his $36M and same with Zion as his contract is no longer guaranteed. Ayton will expire during the 2026 season so the Blazers could potentially have cap space available as they continue to rebuild thru the draft and possibly thru free agency. Blazers get a look at Bol Bol and give him minutes to see what he can do with an opportunity for minutes.

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Post#2 » by Blazers20 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:22 pm

1: Deni-Black-Banton
2: Sharpe-Rupert
3: Ingram-Murray
4: Zion-Camara
5: Ayton-Bol
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Post#3 » by JRoy » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:26 pm

Hard no on Zion.
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Post#4 » by zzaj » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:30 pm

With all due respect, Blazers20...this is so far outside the temperature/direction of what the team seems to be doing right now, I don't even know where to begin.

For starters (I didn't even check if this could work in terms of money) skill issues built into the trade.
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Post#5 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:56 pm

Points for creativity I guess?
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Post#6 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:38 pm

I would do this trade and then not extend Zion or Ingram, let them both expire. Let Ayton expire as well.

And then start the rebuild in earnest.

Does that sound like something Cronin would do?
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Post#7 » by cucad8 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:39 pm

I'll just do the Orlando portion and scrap the rest of the deal. I'd buy low on Zion. Clingan and Scoot isn't that, however.
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Post#8 » by cucad8 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:40 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I would do this trade and then not extend Zion or Ingram, let them both expire. Let Ayton expire as well.

And then start the rebuild in earnest.

Does that sound like something Cronin would do?

If you're letting them both expire, you're basically saying you'd give up Clingan AND Scoot just to dump Grant? That's rather absurd.
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Post#9 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:48 pm

cucad8 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I would do this trade and then not extend Zion or Ingram, let them both expire. Let Ayton expire as well.

And then start the rebuild in earnest.

Does that sound like something Cronin would do?

If you're letting them both expire, you're basically saying you'd give up Clingan AND Scoot just to dump Grant? That's rather absurd.

Exactly.

Zion isn't ever going to change. Ingram is oft-injured. The ONLY reason you do this trade is that you are going to do a full-blown rebuild.

Even then, the only player you want to change in the outgoing group is Clingan. Substitute Clingan for Sharpe. Rebuild around Avdija/Camara/Clingan.
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Post#10 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:55 pm

Feels like most parties involved say no perhaps
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Post#11 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:03 pm

This is about as based in reality as a sex tape of Trump and Biden leaking.
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Post#12 » by JRoy » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:19 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I would do this trade and then not extend Zion or Ingram, let them both expire. Let Ayton expire as well.

And then start the rebuild in earnest.

Does that sound like something Cronin would do?


That idea might have some merit.
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Post#13 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:25 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:This is about as based in reality as a sex tape of Trump and Biden leaking.


Thanks for the visual :lol:
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Post#14 » by zzaj » Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:08 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
cucad8 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I would do this trade and then not extend Zion or Ingram, let them both expire. Let Ayton expire as well.

And then start the rebuild in earnest.

Does that sound like something Cronin would do?

If you're letting them both expire, you're basically saying you'd give up Clingan AND Scoot just to dump Grant? That's rather absurd.

Exactly.

Zion isn't ever going to change. Ingram is oft-injured. The ONLY reason you do this trade is that you are going to do a full-blown rebuild.

Even then, the only player you want to change in the outgoing group is Clingan. Substitute Clingan for Sharpe. Rebuild around Avdija/Camara/Clingan.


So you just give up a number #3 pick (Scoot) and #7 pick (Sharpe) just so you can let two players expire and play elsewhere and start a rebuild using capspace in a non-destination city like Portland?

No offense, dckingsfan...but that would get you fired as GM by every owner in the league, and rightfully so.
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Post#15 » by RTG HD » Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:26 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:This is about as based in reality as a sex tape of Trump and Biden leaking.


There is probably already a deepfake version of this.
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Post#16 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:30 am

zzaj wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
cucad8 wrote:If you're letting them both expire, you're basically saying you'd give up Clingan AND Scoot just to dump Grant? That's rather absurd.

Exactly.

Zion isn't ever going to change. Ingram is oft-injured. The ONLY reason you do this trade is that you are going to do a full-blown rebuild.

Even then, the only player you want to change in the outgoing group is Clingan. Substitute Clingan for Sharpe. Rebuild around Avdija/Camara/Clingan.


So you just give up a number #3 pick (Scoot) and #7 pick (Sharpe) just so you can let two players expire and play elsewhere and start a rebuild using capspace in a non-destination city like Portland?

No offense, dckingsfan...but that would get you fired as GM by every owner in the league, and rightfully so.

Depends on your owner and what you are trying to accomplish.

For context, I did post this:

dckingsfan wrote:Does that sound like something Cronin would do?


Although it should have been this:

dckingsfan wrote:Does that sound like something Cronin and ownership would do?


Once you feel that your #3 pick (Scoot) and #7 pick (Sharpe) aren't all that, you move on.

In context, I don't feel that Cronin has moved on from Ayton/Grant and Simons in any way shape or form. In fact, I think they will extend both Ayton and Simons this offseason (possibly Williams as well).

Make more sense?
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Post#17 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:31 am

JRoy wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I would do this trade and then not extend Zion or Ingram, let them both expire. Let Ayton expire as well.

And then start the rebuild in earnest.

Does that sound like something Cronin would do?

That idea might have some merit.

Yep. If & only if you are going to start a rebuild in earnest.
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Post#18 » by JRoy » Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:38 am

dckingsfan wrote:
JRoy wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I would do this trade and then not extend Zion or Ingram, let them both expire. Let Ayton expire as well.

And then start the rebuild in earnest.

Does that sound like something Cronin would do?

That idea might have some merit.

Yep. If & only if you are going to start a rebuild in earnest.


Better than this half assed nonsense.
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Post#19 » by zzaj » Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:46 am

dckingsfan wrote:
zzaj wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Exactly.

Zion isn't ever going to change. Ingram is oft-injured. The ONLY reason you do this trade is that you are going to do a full-blown rebuild.

Even then, the only player you want to change in the outgoing group is Clingan. Substitute Clingan for Sharpe. Rebuild around Avdija/Camara/Clingan.


So you just give up a number #3 pick (Scoot) and #7 pick (Sharpe) just so you can let two players expire and play elsewhere and start a rebuild using capspace in a non-destination city like Portland?

No offense, dckingsfan...but that would get you fired as GM by every owner in the league, and rightfully so.

Depends on your owner and what you are trying to accomplish.

For context, I did post this:

dckingsfan wrote:Does that sound like something Cronin would do?


Although it should have been this:

dckingsfan wrote:Does that sound like something Cronin and ownership would do?


Once you feel that your #3 pick (Scoot) and #7 pick (Sharpe) aren't all that, you move on.

In context, I don't feel that Cronin has moved on from Ayton/Grant and Simons in any way shape or form. In fact, I think they will extend both Ayton and Simons this offseason (possibly Williams as well).

Make more sense?


Oh I was sniffing what you were stepping in...

A tear it down rebuild primarily built on the idea of having capspace for a team like Portland makes no sense. It's draft or bust for Portland if they want to start over.
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Post#20 » by Shem » Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:10 am

"F" no to Zion!!!
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