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causal_fan wrote:Nebuchadnezzar wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Toronto-Raptors/28/Home
Lol, this board is slow how about dem "Raptors pivoting towards winning Brandon Ingram rumours" via Stein
Would not be a fan - I prefer share the ball players rather than ball dominant players.
BCbudraptorfan wrote:it seems like were off of rj being that piece next to scottie which is good news
RoteSchroder wrote:BCbudraptorfan wrote:it seems like were off of rj being that piece next to scottie which is good news
We need to get off building around Scottie instead of building with him first
TheRaptor! wrote:causal_fan wrote:Nebuchadnezzar wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Toronto-Raptors/28/Home
Lol, this board is slow how about dem "Raptors pivoting towards winning Brandon Ingram rumours" via Stein
Would not be a fan - I prefer share the ball players rather than ball dominant players.
Every good team has an alpha gimme the damn ball and watch me cook type of guy
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Toronto Out
RJ, Bruce Brown
Toronto In
Herb Jones, Simone Fontecchio, Tobias Harris, Tor 2025 SRP, Was 2025 SRP
NOP Out
Ingram, Herb Jones
NOP In
RJ, Bruce Brown
Detroit Out
Tobias Harris, Simone Fontecchio, Tor 2025 SRP, Was 2025 SRP
Detroit In
Brandon Ingram
Toronto trades RJ and an expiring BB for Herb on an excellent contract and 2 seconds. Both Tobias and Simone are expiring contracts. Toronto gets worse this year and improves our own pick which can then be paired with IQ and Scottie. Herb is a perfect POA defender to compliment Scottie as well. The additional seconds are both top of the second round and with 3 seconds in this draft we can potentially package them to a contender who would rather save on paying a second rounder at pick 30-33 vs a first rounder at picks 26-30.
Spida888 wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Toronto Out
RJ, Bruce Brown
Toronto In
Herb Jones, Simone Fontecchio, Tobias Harris, Tor 2025 SRP, Was 2025 SRP
NOP Out
Ingram, Herb Jones
NOP In
RJ, Bruce Brown
Detroit Out
Tobias Harris, Simone Fontecchio, Tor 2025 SRP, Was 2025 SRP
Detroit In
Brandon Ingram
Toronto trades RJ and an expiring BB for Herb on an excellent contract and 2 seconds. Both Tobias and Simone are expiring contracts. Toronto gets worse this year and improves our own pick which can then be paired with IQ and Scottie. Herb is a perfect POA defender to compliment Scottie as well. The additional seconds are both top of the second round and with 3 seconds in this draft we can potentially package them to a contender who would rather save on paying a second rounder at pick 30-33 vs a first rounder at picks 26-30.
Herb is one of the best value contracts so I'm not confident Pels would trade him with RJ as the center piece, but I would do it for the Raps. I don't even need the SRPs really, those would be gravy. Feels like the Pels need more as well since they're giving up both Ingram and Herb.
Tobias has been good for DET so I wonder if they actually want to keep him and trade Hardaway instead. My slightly tweaked version is:
Toronto Out
RJ, POR 2025 SRP
Toronto In
Herb Jones, Simone Fontecchio
NOP Out
Ingram, Herb Jones
NOP In
RJ, Hardaway Jr., POR 2025 SRP, Tor 2025 SRP, Was 2025 SRP (realistically maybe some FRP is involved)
Detroit Out
Simone Fontecchio, Tor 2025 SRP, Was 2025 SRP
Detroit In
Brandon Ingram
agkagk wrote:Rj is better younger and cheaper than Ingram.
No no nooooooo
We’re trading the best player and getting the third best player in the trade
No noooo noooooo
So many draft picks missing
Nooooooo
HangTime wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:BCbudraptorfan wrote:it seems like were off of rj being that piece next to scottie which is good news
We need to get off building around Scottie instead of building with him first
Scottie is the new version of a #1 option.
Who'd you rather build around?
RoteSchroder wrote:HangTime wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:
We need to get off building around Scottie instead of building with him first
Scottie is the new version of a #1 option.
Who'd you rather build around?
How can he be a #1 option with worse scoring than RJ Barrett and non-elite playmaking though.
I’d rather build around a #1 option
Thaddy wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:HangTime wrote:
Scottie is the new version of a #1 option.
Who'd you rather build around?
How can he be a #1 option with worse scoring than RJ Barrett and non-elite playmaking though.
I’d rather build around a #1 option
Other number 1 option prospects have a problem where they have holes in their defense, passing, rebounding or another significant part of the game that's hard to develop. The holes Barnes has are easier to fill and he's shown flashes of being able to figure that out.
Ingram is a smokescreen....the real target is ZionThaddy wrote:"Raptors have “a ton of interest” in Brandon Ingram" - Jake Fischer
Marc Stein wrote on this as well which makes this a legit rumour to me.
Video:
https://bleacherreport.com/videos/651293-raptors-interested-in-brandon-ingram
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:agkagk wrote:Rj is better younger and cheaper than Ingram.
No no nooooooo
We’re trading the best player and getting the third best player in the trade
No noooo noooooo
So many draft picks missing
Nooooooo
RJ isn’t netting multiple picks from anyone. Herb on his current contract probably has higher trade value league wide than RJ. Herb also fits what we will need long term better.
Given this team is likely to draft a guard in the 2-7 range, getting a POA defender in Herb, who is in a class of all defense players, would be huge.
RJ and Ingram are bigger names but will also command 30+ million annually whereas with just Herb we get to use that cap space else where. Neither of those 2 look like championship level guys either. Herb does
Lord Leoshes wrote:i personally would rather keep Chalmers over Lowry
Mr Swagtastic wrote:Some of these YouTubers are way off with their value
Psubs wrote:Zion Williamson, Antonio Reeves, Karlo Matkovic and Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (waive)
For
Ochai Agbaji, Kelly Olynyk, Davion Mitchell and Chris Boucher
Psubs wrote:Zion Williamson, Antonio Reeves, Karlo Matkovic and Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (waive)
For
Ochai Agbaji, Kelly Olynyk, Davion Mitchell and Chris Boucher