Bulls Trade Deadline Prediction Thread

[Muzbar]

I don't believe the Zach to GS 'rumours' at all. Especially without Wiggins' (or Draymond's) salary involved.

[DropStep]

Kinda bitter sweet if they both get traded..but , at the very least us bulls fans get some closure . A new chapter begins .

It would be bittersweet. Who could have foreseen both Zach and Vuc essentially having career years this year? Who would have imagined the Bulls shooting this many threes, after talking about it and then not really doing it last year? While the macro picture has been a bit grim, the game-to-game team has at times been fun. The variance is wild to experience.

Zach or Vuc heading out would be the end to a significant multi-year chapter of the franchise. It didn't work out the way everybody wants, but c'est la vie, and there were some fun highlights. I still miss the King in the Fourth... after a fashion.

[boozapalooza]

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Fwiw I DMed this dude asking if Bulls were involved, and he said no. The wait for AKME to wake up continues…

[whatisacenter]

What???

Wiggins posting pics makes this feel done. If not the dude is an idiot.

They will have to get another team involved for salary.

I’d love to see Lavine with Steph. I’m going to the Dubs game tonight.

Warriors' fan here.

That pick of Wiggins with LaVine is being taken out of context...it was one of many pics he posted to insta a few days ago from a few of his last games.

That being said, I would be down for the Warriors acquiring LaVine but would like them to be able to keep Wiggins in the deal. I'm guessing it would need to be a multi-team trade to get that done.

I wish my Warriors were open to moving Draymond, not that your team would want him, but they seem to be unable to imagine life without him.

What type of compensation are you guys looking for? Picks? expirings? Young player? Is your FO open to taking back any contracts beyond this season?

AKME is stubborn mule. He doesn't believe in tanking nor does any of the previous nuggets front office executives. He wants win now players or players who have experience just need more seasoning in the nba Podz for example.

OK, I thought that I read that the Bulls wanted to insure that they would keep their pick this season and be in the top 10 of the lottery.

[drosestruts]

If you construct a roster that only works around your 4th highest paid player, whom averaged 1/3 a season missed for his career and has a bunch of cumulative lower body injuries that are predictive of future injuries, then that is indeed a huge misjudgment.

To not figure out how to react to it for 2 years is just a long series of misjudgments, to miss on almost every one of your draft picks, over pay in all your trades, never push your RFAs to actually get an offer sheet or negotiate hard are all further misjudgments.

The problem isn't a misjudgment, it is that virtually every decision he had made since he has been here has been a misjudgment. If you were to count the things he did right, it would be a list of:

Draft Ayo (whom was ESPN's most talented for like 10 picks before he fell to us and we took him)
Sign Caruso (whom said he would have gone to the Lakers for less if they just upped their offer some)
Sign Coby to an extension (though could have likely got him on an even better deal if they played hard ball)
Sign Ayo to an extension (though could have definitely got him on a better deal if they played hard ball)

Maybe draft Matas (whom was mocked at #5 but fell to #11), but maybe not, we'll see.
Maybe sign and trade for DeMar (though we screwed up the situation enough that it didn't help us, but likely could have helped us if he hadn't screwed up the end)

That's a _really_ short list for how long he's been around.

One small asterisk I'd throw in there is that we did figure it out for a brief period. The team did perform well with Patrick Beverley here. The Bev-Caruso-LaVine-DeRozan-Vucevic lineup was +13 in 266 minutes. We were 14-8 in his time here.

Then we signed Jevon Carter in the offseason instead of Beverley, and well, that didn't work (not gonna lie, thought Carter would fit well).

You think that if they had re-signed Beverley that it would've made a difference? Beverley didn't do well the next two years (Philly and Milwaukee) and is currently playing in Israel.

The only data I have to work with is how the team performed the season prior which again - that was our most played lineup after acquiring Beverley and it was +13.4

Our most played lineup in 2023-24 was White-Ayo-Caruso-DeRozan-Vucevic and it was -2.7

Now I don't think Beverley being here magically makes LaVine not get injured and require surgery so in hindsight - probably irrelevant that he wasn't here.

But if I signed someone and our team played really really well with the player for 30% of the season he was here - yeah i'd probably re-sign them.

[ChiefILL53]

if the rumors are true that AKME rejected a giddey to SA trade, they need to be fired. I expect them to do nothing and I know somehow theyre STILL gonna piss me off. There are definitely deals to be made and I think they're still overvaluing players as far as picks are concerned.

[Muzbar]

if the rumors are true that AKME rejected a giddey to SA trade, they need to be fired. I expect them to do nothing and I know somehow theyre STILL gonna piss me off. There are definitely deals to be made and I think they're still overvaluing players as far as picks are concerned.

There was a rumour that AKME turned down a trade from SA for Giddey?

[Chi town]

if the rumors are true that AKME rejected a giddey to SA trade, they need to be fired. I expect them to do nothing and I know somehow theyre STILL gonna piss me off. There are definitely deals to be made and I think they're still overvaluing players as far as picks are concerned.

There was a rumour that AKME turned down a trade from SA for Giddey?

No.

Spurs called about Giddey.

No info on offer.

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[Infinity2152]

Report came out yesterday Bulls reportedly turned down Capela for Vucevic swap.

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[GuardianEnzo]

The Spurs aren’t winning anything this year. If they like Giddey why not wait until the summer and give him an offer sheet the Bulls won’t match? They can afford it. Why give the Bulls an asset now and help them get worse and keep their pick at the same time?

[Muzbar]

if the rumors are true that AKME rejected a giddey to SA trade, they need to be fired. I expect them to do nothing and I know somehow theyre STILL gonna piss me off. There are definitely deals to be made and I think they're still overvaluing players as far as picks are concerned.

There was a rumour that AKME turned down a trade from SA for Giddey?

No.

Spurs called about Giddey.

No info on offer.

That's what I thought.

If it's the 'rumour' that was mentioned earlier, it said the Spurs had a level of interest in Giddey, no mention if that was even if he was in Chicago at the time or still on the Thunder.

[Infinity2152]

The Spurs aren’t winning anything this year. If they like Giddey why not wait until the summer and give him an offer sheet the Bulls won’t match? They can afford it. Why give the Bulls an asset now and help them get worse and keep their pick at the same time?

The thought could be the Bulls are less likely to let Giddey go in free agency if they miss the draft. Bulls gain maybe close to $5 mill if the Spurs take their pick, and the Spurs lose that, they have to pay the pick. Plus a rebuilding team that just lost one young building piece in the draft is going to go harder to keep the other one. The Spurs don't overbid on free agents to my knowledge anyway, so that offer sheet the Bull's won't match would be uncharacteristic of them. Doubt they'd do that for Giddey. Kings thought they were getting Lavine like that.

[ChiefILL53]

There was a rumour that AKME turned down a trade from SA for Giddey?

No.

Spurs called about Giddey.

No info on offer.

That's what I thought.

If it's the 'rumour' that was mentioned earlier, it said the Spurs had a level of interest in Giddey, no mention if that was even if he was in Chicago at the time or still on the Thunder.

No info on offer, but if they called they clearly had interest and there was a deal to make while we all sit and wait to see if they stop sitting on their hands or not. Now they're about to go get Fox so that opportunity has passed. Bulls need to figure something out. Imagine if they lose giddey for nothing this summer? lmfao

[Muzbar]

No.

Spurs called about Giddey.

No info on offer.

That's what I thought.

If it's the 'rumour' that was mentioned earlier, it said the Spurs had a level of interest in Giddey, no mention if that was even if he was in Chicago at the time or still on the Thunder.

No info on offer, but if they called they clearly had interest and there was a deal to make while we all sit and wait to see if they stop sitting on their hands or not. Now they're about to go get Fox so that opportunity has passed. Bulls need to figure something out. Imagine if they lose giddey for nothing this summer? lmfao

I agree that AKME are complete rubbish, but I feel like you're making up some stuff in your head to justify it further.

There was no mention they contacted the Bulls, just that they had interest in Giddey at some point. He may have been on the Thunder when they were interested.

Losing Giddey for nothing in restricted free agency would be a failure (that may also depend on what he gets paid).

There's nothing saying the Bulls had conversations regarding Giddey.

[League Circles]

The Spurs aren’t winning anything this year. If they like Giddey why not wait until the summer and give him an offer sheet the Bulls won’t match? They can afford it. Why give the Bulls an asset now and help them get worse and keep their pick at the same time?

They could probably keep him for like 5 mil per year less than what the Bulls would match.

[Rose2Boozer]

if the rumors are true that AKME rejected a giddey to SA trade, they need to be fired. I expect them to do nothing and I know somehow theyre STILL gonna piss me off. There are definitely deals to be made and I think they're still overvaluing players as far as picks are concerned.

There was a rumour that AKME turned down a trade from SA for Giddey?

The answer should be YES. AKME moving on from Giddey and Williams would be my ideal trade deadline outcome. Thanks AKME, Kel'el Ware would've been a nice piece to start a soft rebuild.

[Guru]

I think it's at worst a misjudgment and the reality is that he was hamstrung by an injury that clearly had an unknown ending.

If you construct a roster that only works around your 4th highest paid player, whom averaged 1/3 a season missed for his career and has a bunch of cumulative lower body injuries that are predictive of future injuries, then that is indeed a huge misjudgment.

To not figure out how to react to it for 2 years is just a long series of misjudgments, to miss on almost every one of your draft picks, over pay in all your trades, never push your RFAs to actually get an offer sheet or negotiate hard are all further misjudgments.

The problem isn't a misjudgment, it is that virtually every decision he had made since he has been here has been a misjudgment. If you were to count the things he did right, it would be a list of:

Draft Ayo (whom was ESPN's most talented for like 10 picks before he fell to us and we took him)
Sign Caruso (whom said he would have gone to the Lakers for less if they just upped their offer some)
Sign Coby to an extension (though could have likely got him on an even better deal if they played hard ball)
Sign Ayo to an extension (though could have definitely got him on a better deal if they played hard ball)

Maybe draft Matas (whom was mocked at #5 but fell to #11), but maybe not, we'll see.
Maybe sign and trade for DeMar (though we screwed up the situation enough that it didn't help us, but likely could have helped us if he hadn't screwed up the end)

That's a _really_ short list for how long he's been around.

I completely disagree. He has been hamstrung in his ability to remake the roster by the Lonzo injury combined with success when we had decent PG play.

His remake of the team was nothing short of miraculous and he should get the chance to do it again.

AND nearly every signing he's had has hit.

You've foreclosed on their being one way and you won't consider anything else.

[boozapalooza]

if the rumors are true that AKME rejected a giddey to SA trade, they need to be fired. I expect them to do nothing and I know somehow theyre STILL gonna piss me off. There are definitely deals to be made and I think they're still overvaluing players as far as picks are concerned.

There was a rumour that AKME turned down a trade from SA for Giddey?

The answer should be YES. AKME moving on from Giddey and Williams would be my ideal trade deadline outcome. Thanks AKME, Kel'el Ware would've been a nice piece to start a soft rebuild.

No regrets on the Matas pick where we got him. I still think he has an even higher ceiling

[Rose2Boozer]

There was a rumour that AKME turned down a trade from SA for Giddey?

The answer should be YES. AKME moving on from Giddey and Williams would be my ideal trade deadline outcome. Thanks AKME, Kel'el Ware would've been a nice piece to start a soft rebuild.

No regrets on the Matas pick where we got him. I still think he has an even higher ceiling

We could've had them both.