Kings trade Fox to Spurs, get LaVine

[Ruma85]

IF it does happen I actually think the fit is good. I feel like those criticizing the fit envision Wemby as a paint dominant player but that's just not the case offensively. The vast majority of his shots are jump shots and almost half of his shots are specifically above the break 3's (44% of his shot attempts by shot chart). Only 36% of his attempts are in the paint and 64% are outside the paint and mostly jump shots. He's a perimeter oriented scorer who has the ability to get dunks in transition or off dribble hand-offs/put backs and the occasional one to two dribble finger roll.

A quick downhill player like De'Aaron Fox could in theory take advantage of the spacing and is a good enough playmaker and is just starting his prime. What player would you want to save all your chips for that can consistently put that downhill pressure on the rim? Shai is great at that but he's in a good situation right now. Anthony Edwards has a great first step but he seems like the kind of player that wants to be the alpha 1A option and isn't a great playmaker. Castle has promise but is still so young and highly inefficient. Trae isn't as good an overall player on both ends as Fox imo although he's a very creative playmaker and crafty enough to attack the paint (albeit not with the same downhill force).

The Spurs still aren't quite there yet as a play-in/playoff team but a move like this can help catapult Wemby to get a taste of the postseason and perhaps give some of these teams a run for their money. While it probably costs them at least a couple prospects + picks the Spurs should still have a handful of picks leftover.

Zion can do what you want Fox to do. He is a much better downhill player and can make plays for others. Plus he can catch lobs from Wemby and play spot minutes at C when Wemby sits which is a huge weakness for the Spurs. He is the perfect fit for them

We all love Zion, but provided he cannot stay healthy, I think Fox is more viable option.

[CIN-C-STAR]

I mean, if he’s just using the Spurs to get his max money and doesn’t really care about being in San Antonio, I think most Spurs fans would be fine with it.
In fact I think most of would prefer he didn’t come to San Antonio if that’s the case.

I mean $70M is a LOT of money to ask a guy to leave in his prime. We're not the only ones who could afford it. He wants us. Feels like there's some middle ground that could be had. We've wanted him for a while it's been reported so mutual interest and its extension ramifications have surely been discussed and prepared for.

Exactly it’s also an ego thing. Spurs have the chance to get him now but if they F around too much and don’t offer a reasonable deal they could find themselves pissing Fox off.

I have no doubt the Spurs will make a reasonable offer and will be happy to pay Fox what he’s worth if it’s accepted.
My point was that if Fox wants the Spurs to overpay now just so he can make more money down the line, naw we good, and if he gets mad about it so be it.

[Marvin Martian]

IF it does happen I actually think the fit is good. I feel like those criticizing the fit envision Wemby as a paint dominant player but that's just not the case offensively. The vast majority of his shots are jump shots and almost half of his shots are specifically above the break 3's (44% of his shot attempts by shot chart). Only 36% of his attempts are in the paint and 64% are outside the paint and mostly jump shots. He's a perimeter oriented scorer who has the ability to get dunks in transition or off dribble hand-offs/put backs and the occasional one to two dribble finger roll.

A quick downhill player like De'Aaron Fox could in theory take advantage of the spacing and is a good enough playmaker and is just starting his prime. What player would you want to save all your chips for that can consistently put that downhill pressure on the rim? Shai is great at that but he's in a good situation right now. Anthony Edwards has a great first step but he seems like the kind of player that wants to be the alpha 1A option and isn't a great playmaker. Castle has promise but is still so young and highly inefficient. Trae isn't as good an overall player on both ends as Fox imo although he's a very creative playmaker and crafty enough to attack the paint (albeit not with the same downhill force).

The Spurs still aren't quite there yet as a play-in/playoff team but a move like this can help catapult Wemby to get a taste of the postseason and perhaps give some of these teams a run for their money. While it probably costs them at least a couple prospects + picks the Spurs should still have a handful of picks leftover.

Zion can do what you want Fox to do. He is a much better downhill player and can make plays for others. Plus he can catch lobs from Wemby and play spot minutes at C when Wemby sits which is a huge weakness for the Spurs. He is the perfect fit for them

We all love Zion, but provided he cannot stay healthy, I think Fox is more viable option.

Zion's contract is not fully guaranteed. If things don't work out, they can cut him and move on. He is much more viable at this point and the payoff is much better than Fox.

I just find these rumors to be silly as the Spurs have enough assets to get a much better player than Fox, so why settle for him now?

[Ruma85]

Zion can do what you want Fox to do. He is a much better downhill player and can make plays for others. Plus he can catch lobs from Wemby and play spot minutes at C when Wemby sits which is a huge weakness for the Spurs. He is the perfect fit for them

We all love Zion, but provided he cannot stay healthy, I think Fox is more viable option.

Zion's contract is not fully guaranteed. If things don't work out, they can cut him and move on. He is much more viable at this point and the payoff is much better than Fox.

I just find these rumors to be silly as the Spurs have enough assets to get a much better player than Fox, so why settle for him now?

Because he cannot stay healthy, if they give up picks and he cannot stay healthy, that’s not a good look. As I said we all love Zion he’s looking better as of late, it’s a tough trade to organize.

[Sactowndog]

I mean $70M is a LOT of money to ask a guy to leave in his prime. We're not the only ones who could afford it. He wants us. Feels like there's some middle ground that could be had. We've wanted him for a while it's been reported so mutual interest and its extension ramifications have surely been discussed and prepared for.

Exactly it’s also an ego thing. Spurs have the chance to get him now but if they F around too much and don’t offer a reasonable deal they could find themselves pissing Fox off.

I think the tweet about SAC targeting two win now players or second best is one such and picks is important info. It depends on what assets a team wants in its growth timeline. It's why this has opened up to at least a 4 team deal. Sac likes other teams' win now players more and we have incentives to facilitate. SIX teams is 20% of the league lol. I wonder what the record is for number of teams in a trade. So it sounds like hard work is being done to get teams what they want.

Sac needs front court players especially on the wing. They have 2 wing players over 6’7”: Murray and Lyles. Meanwhile at guard Keon Ellis has the teams best net rating and only gets less than 20 minutes a game. Devin Carter looks promising and gets less than 8. Huerter gets a DNP.

The national media is embarrassing themselves with stating the Kings need a guard back for Fox.

The Monk Sabonis pick and roll is .01 fewer Points per possession then the Fox Sabonis pick and roll. Some of it Sabonis is left handed, Fox is left handed and Monk is right handed. When we play a Fox, Monk, Deebo, Keegan, Domas line-up we are undersized at every position but point guard.

If instead we play a Monk Ellis Murray player X, Sabonis line-up we are undersized only at center. You can’t play a small ball line-up with Domas at center. The parts don’t fit. I am not sure it’s win now as much as rebalancing a roster and getting players who fit.

[Up-And-Coming]

IF it does happen I actually think the fit is good. I feel like those criticizing the fit envision Wemby as a paint dominant player but that's just not the case offensively. The vast majority of his shots are jump shots and almost half of his shots are specifically above the break 3's (44% of his shot attempts by shot chart). Only 36% of his attempts are in the paint and 64% are outside the paint and mostly jump shots. He's a perimeter oriented scorer who has the ability to get dunks in transition or off dribble hand-offs/put backs and the occasional one to two dribble finger roll.

A quick downhill player like De'Aaron Fox could in theory take advantage of the spacing and is a good enough playmaker and is just starting his prime. What player would you want to save all your chips for that can consistently put that downhill pressure on the rim? Shai is great at that but he's in a good situation right now. Anthony Edwards has a great first step but he seems like the kind of player that wants to be the alpha 1A option and isn't a great playmaker. Castle has promise but is still so young and highly inefficient. Trae isn't as good an overall player on both ends as Fox imo although he's a very creative playmaker and crafty enough to attack the paint (albeit not with the same downhill force).

The Spurs still aren't quite there yet as a play-in/playoff team but a move like this can help catapult Wemby to get a taste of the postseason and perhaps give some of these teams a run for their money. While it probably costs them at least a couple prospects + picks the Spurs should still have a handful of picks leftover.

Zion can do what you want Fox to do. He is a much better downhill player and can make plays for others. Plus he can catch lobs from Wemby and play spot minutes at C when Wemby sits which is a huge weakness for the Spurs. He is the perfect fit for them

I totally agree with Zion's fit in theory and thought about him as he's an even bigger downhill force. I just don't know how available and willing he'd be to go to the Spurs and play 2nd fiddle since he reportedly wanted to go to New York. His injury concerns also are concerning.

Amen/Ausar Thompson, Paolo Banchero, Maxey, etc also fit the mold but they're largely unavailable at this time and project to be in even better situations moving forward besides maybe Maxey. Fox is willing and just starting his prime and I think he's at the very least in the same quality tier of player as all of those listed except maybe Paolo or a healthy Zion right now.

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IF it does happen I actually think the fit is good. I feel like those criticizing the fit envision Wemby as a paint dominant player but that's just not the case offensively. The vast majority of his shots are jump shots and almost half of his shots are specifically above the break 3's (44% of his shot attempts by shot chart). Only 36% of his attempts are in the paint and 64% are outside the paint and mostly jump shots. He's a perimeter oriented scorer who has the ability to get dunks in transition or off dribble hand-offs/put backs and the occasional one to two dribble finger roll.

A quick downhill player like De'Aaron Fox could in theory take advantage of the spacing and is a good enough playmaker and is just starting his prime. What player would you want to save all your chips for that can consistently put that downhill pressure on the rim? Shai is great at that but he's in a good situation right now. Anthony Edwards has a great first step but he seems like the kind of player that wants to be the alpha 1A option and isn't a great playmaker. Castle has promise but is still so young and highly inefficient. Trae isn't as good an overall player on both ends as Fox imo although he's a very creative playmaker and crafty enough to attack the paint (albeit not with the same downhill force).

The Spurs still aren't quite there yet as a play-in/playoff team but a move like this can help catapult Wemby to get a taste of the postseason and perhaps give some of these teams a run for their money. While it probably costs them at least a couple prospects + picks the Spurs should still have a handful of picks leftover.

Zion can do what you want Fox to do. He is a much better downhill player and can make plays for others. Plus he can catch lobs from Wemby and play spot minutes at C when Wemby sits which is a huge weakness for the Spurs. He is the perfect fit for them

Except for the parts about "stay healthy" and "not pout about being in a small market".

[JM00n69]

Fox's timeline is wayy off of Wemby. Wemby is honestly so good that he may be able to uplift the Spurs on his own, I'd still be patient with him to see how far he goes, he's 25 and 11 on 60ts% in year 2 for **** sakes.

It's not so easy to get a top Point Guard. Specially, for no-tanking teams. It took 15 years for the Knicks to find one.

We have only a few better options than Fox. And most of them will not move anytime soon.

Shai: contending in the best team in the West
Doncic: He was in the final last season.
Brunson: Too old and I bet he will stay in the Knicks.
Morant: Locked until 2028. He is in a dark horse contender team. Often injured and has questionable ethics.
Cade: Just signed a long contract and Detroit is improving fast.
Haliburton: Just signed a long contract and Indiana is improving.
Garland: He is in the best team in the East.
Jamal: As old as Fox, in a contender team. And less consistent than Fox.
Maxey Just signed a long contract and the Sixers should not look to trade him.
LaMello Maybe he becomes available. But his injuries are scarry.

Spurs don’t need a top point guard at all cost. It could be a top SG or SF as long as he can create and shoot

You guys have got Wemby. He'll be crushing the league for the next 12years+ with or without Fox. Instead of blowing the cap at one player, you're far better using the cap to construct a whole team around him that fits.

[vincecarter4pres]

It's not so easy to get a top Point Guard. Specially, for no-tanking teams. It took 15 years for the Knicks to find one.

We have only a few better options than Fox. And most of them will not move anytime soon.

Shai: contending in the best team in the West
Doncic: He was in the final last season.
Brunson: Too old and I bet he will stay in the Knicks.
Morant: Locked until 2028. He is in a dark horse contender team. Often injured and has questionable ethics.
Cade: Just signed a long contract and Detroit is improving fast.
Haliburton: Just signed a long contract and Indiana is improving.
Garland: He is in the best team in the East.
Jamal: As old as Fox, in a contender team. And less consistent than Fox.
Maxey Just signed a long contract and the Sixers should not look to trade him.
LaMello Maybe he becomes available. But his injuries are scarry.

Spurs don’t need a top point guard at all cost. It could be a top SG or SF as long as he can create and shoot

You guys have got Wemby. He'll be crushing the league for the next 12years+ with or without Fox. Instead of blowing the cap at one player, you're far better using the cap to construct a whole team around him that fits.

Yeah idk about that.

It took the Mavs like 8 tries to figure that out, and tons of draft picks and cap space, one at a time, over and over again. Instead of just going big from the jump to get Dirk a true number 2 and then dealing with the supporting cast after. Totally different style of player, but both unicorns of their generation.

They have the picks, the young pieces and the cap flexibility to make a big move like this now, still keep a valuable pick or two, all their own far out ones, Castle and a good supporting cast, while being able to make a bunch of low costs adds to shore things up.

Fox isn’t the only answer, but he’s a great fit on paper, and in the middle of his prime at absolute worst, and won’t cost the entire farm to acquire.

I know surprise guys become available, but realistically who? And when?

Fox is only a surprise to some, and only truly a surprise now instead of the summer.

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As this generation says, Let's go....

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I can't stand all this teasing anymore man

[RIPskaterdude]

Lost in the Luka trade but this trade is happening

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[Tor_Raps]

Lost in the Luka trade but this trade is happening

This trade won't even matter to the average nba fan anymore, it's all Lukamania

[PhilBlackson]

Alright let's not talk about it, be about it lol

Get it done already Pops!

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Heard it’s pretty much done should break shortly. Vassell, Sochan and draft compensation for Fox.

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