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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#541 » by shackles10 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:02 pm

Hal14 wrote:Shackles, your guy Flory Bidunga is growing on me. He's been getting more playing time of late and is getting better. Really high BPM, TRB%, blocks %, TS%. High number of dunks.

He's light on feet out there, he's bouncy. Moves quick and fluid.

He's kind of like Time Lord..not as strong but he's young, only 19..he'll get stronger.


I haven't watched him in a bit because he was getting so little playing time after the first couple games of the season. Also just been too busy with youth basketball with my kids to watch anything more than the Celtics and most UK games. Glad to hear Flory is doing well though, as I've mentioned a few times he's a great kid. Everything you've described of him is what I saw in HS. Timelord light due to the lack of passing.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#542 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:04 pm

shackles10 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Shackles, your guy Flory Bidunga is growing on me. He's been getting more playing time of late and is getting better. Really high BPM, TRB%, blocks %, TS%. High number of dunks.

He's light on feet out there, he's bouncy. Moves quick and fluid.

He's kind of like Time Lord..not as strong but he's young, only 19..he'll get stronger.


I haven't watched him in a bit because he was getting so little playing time after the first couple games of the season. Also just been too busy with youth basketball with my kids to watch anything more than the Celtics and most UK games. Glad to hear Flory is doing well though, as I've mentioned a few times he's a great kid. Everything you've described of him is what I saw in HS. Timelord light due to the lack of passing.

He's been showing some intriguing passing flashes lately too :)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#543 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:57 am

Rough board tiers

1-6 who I believe deserve it:
Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis, Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe

Rest of lotto+ (7-15) cuz everyone keeps saying but I don't really buy or not buy at this point since we can't get them so I haven't bothered looking:
Asa Newell, Egor Demin, Kon Knueppel, Khaman Maluach, Liam McNeeley, Ben Saraf, Derik Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Boogie Fland

Next 14 guys I like that we can get one of for sure, in my order of preference (as of today):
Rasheer Fleming
Thomas Sorber
Noa Essengue
Nolan Traore
Collin Murray-Boyles
Joan Beringer
Noah Penda
Miles Byrd
Ian Jackson
Hugo Gonzales
Johni Broome
Kam Jones
Jase Richardson
Labaron Philon


Next set that I'm super intrigued with but fully willing to admit they could be serious busts:
JoJo Tugler
Darrion Williams
Adou Thiero
Will Riley
Mackenzie Mgbako
Dink Pate
Carter Bryant
Joson Sanon
Kanon Catchings
Sergio De Larrea

Old reliables that I'd be fine taking but would be more excited if we trade back for:
Nique Clifford
Tyrese Proctor
Hunter Sallis
Danny Wolf
JT Toppin

Others I'd be fine with seeing in Maine for a few years:
Maxime Raynaud
Yaxel Lendeborg
Danny Wolf
Alex Toohey
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#544 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:11 am

We need to keep playing .500 ball a little longer….. Get me to 24 (or within trade up range to 22) and I’d be much happier. No matter what slot we’re in I always wanna be a few picks higher, lol.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#545 » by 165bows » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:49 pm

djFan71 wrote:Rough board tiers

1-6 who I believe deserve it:
Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis, Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe

Rest of lotto+ (7-15) cuz everyone keeps saying but I don't really buy or not buy at this point since we can't get them so I haven't bothered looking:
Asa Newell, Egor Demin, Kon Knueppel, Khaman Maluach, Liam McNeeley, Ben Saraf, Derik Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Boogie Fland

Next 14 guys I like that we can get one of for sure, in my order of preference (as of today):
Rasheer Fleming
Thomas Sorber
Noa Essengue
Nolan Traore
Collin Murray-Boyles
Joan Beringer
Noah Penda
Miles Byrd
Ian Jackson
Hugo Gonzales
Johni Broome
Kam Jones
Jase Richardson
Labaron Philon


Next set that I'm super intrigued with but fully willing to admit they could be serious busts:
JoJo Tugler
Darrion Williams
Adou Thiero
Will Riley
Mackenzie Mgbako
Dink Pate
Carter Bryant
Joson Sanon
Kanon Catchings
Sergio De Larrea

Old reliables that I'd be fine taking but would be more excited if we trade back for:
Nique Clifford
Tyrese Proctor
Hunter Sallis
Danny Wolf
JT Toppin

Others I'd be fine with seeing in Maine for a few years:
Maxime Raynaud
Yaxel Lendeborg
Danny Wolf
Alex Toohey

Apparently Sanon got hurt recently, not sure how serious. Anyways I did notice he was a local guy, a few local ties this year between him and Karaban and I think one or two others.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#546 » by playa-hater » Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:15 pm

djFan71 wrote:Rough board tiers

1-6 who I believe deserve it:
Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis, Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe

Rest of lotto+ (7-15) cuz everyone keeps saying but I don't really buy or not buy at this point since we can't get them so I haven't bothered looking:
Asa Newell, Egor Demin, Kon Knueppel, Khaman Maluach, Liam McNeeley, Ben Saraf, Derik Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Boogie Fland

Next 14 guys I like that we can get one of for sure, in my order of preference (as of today):
Rasheer Fleming
Thomas Sorber
Noa Essengue
Nolan Traore
Collin Murray-Boyles
Joan Beringer
Noah Penda
Miles Byrd
Ian Jackson
Hugo Gonzales
Johni Broome
Kam Jones
Jase Richardson
Labaron Philon


Next set that I'm super intrigued with but fully willing to admit they could be serious busts:
JoJo Tugler
Darrion Williams
Adou Thiero
Will Riley
Mackenzie Mgbako
Dink Pate
Carter Bryant
Joson Sanon
Kanon Catchings
Sergio De Larrea

Old reliables that I'd be fine taking but would be more excited if we trade back for:
Nique Clifford
Tyrese Proctor
Hunter Sallis
Danny Wolf
JT Toppin

Others I'd be fine with seeing in Maine for a few years:
Maxime Raynaud
Yaxel Lendeborg
Danny Wolf
Alex Toohey


No Rocco?
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. :nod:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#547 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:39 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Spoiler:
djFan71 wrote:Rough board tiers

1-6 who I believe deserve it:
Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis, Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe

Rest of lotto+ (7-15) cuz everyone keeps saying but I don't really buy or not buy at this point since we can't get them so I haven't bothered looking:
Asa Newell, Egor Demin, Kon Knueppel, Khaman Maluach, Liam McNeeley, Ben Saraf, Derik Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Boogie Fland

Next 14 guys I like that we can get one of for sure, in my order of preference (as of today):
Rasheer Fleming
Thomas Sorber
Noa Essengue
Nolan Traore
Collin Murray-Boyles
Joan Beringer
Noah Penda
Miles Byrd
Ian Jackson
Hugo Gonzales
Johni Broome
Kam Jones
Jase Richardson
Labaron Philon


Next set that I'm super intrigued with but fully willing to admit they could be serious busts:
JoJo Tugler
Darrion Williams
Adou Thiero
Will Riley
Mackenzie Mgbako
Dink Pate
Carter Bryant
Joson Sanon
Kanon Catchings
Sergio De Larrea

Old reliables that I'd be fine taking but would be more excited if we trade back for:
Nique Clifford
Tyrese Proctor
Hunter Sallis
Danny Wolf
JT Toppin

Others I'd be fine with seeing in Maine for a few years:
Maxime Raynaud
Yaxel Lendeborg
Danny Wolf
Alex Toohey


No Rocco?

I'm good with the non-switchable bigs we got. I want switchable. He, Edey, etc, just aren't my type. It bites me every now and then, but overall I basically ignore them.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#548 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Feb 1, 2025 8:35 pm

SwishTheory with a succinct top 60 released yesterday
https://theswishtheory.com/2025-nba-draft-articles/2025/01/2025-nba-draft-big-board-1-0/


1. Cooper Flagg, Duke - Do-it-all wing with premium skill and athleticism
2. Dylan Harper, Rutgers - Bruising driving guard and potent scorer
3. Khaman Maluach, Duke - Towering young big with upside as a play finisher and rim protector
4. VJ Edgecombe, Baylor - Explosive scoring guard and lockdown defender
5. Kasparas Jakucionis, Illinois - Pull-up maestro with passing creativity
6. Collin Murray-Boyles, South Carolina - Elite playmaking forward on both sides of the ball
7. Ace Bailey, Rutgers - Versatile shooting wing with dynamic athleticism
8. Derik Queen, Maryland - Creative big-bodied drive threat who can pass
9. Tre Johnson, Texas - Versatile scoring, smooth three point shooting bucket-getter
10. Thomas Sorber, Georgetown - Tough freshman PF with strong feel for the game
11. Jeremiah Fears, Oklahoma - Young lead guard with dribble, pass, shoot upside
12. Noa Essengue, ULM - Sinewy rim attacker with budding ball skills and defensive versatility
13. Asa Newell, Georgia - Versatile defender, glass-crashing post-up threat developing three point shot
14. Jase Richardson, Michigan State - Three-level scoring guard with quick processing

15. Labaron Philon, Alabama - Gadgety, versatile, productive guard every team could use
16. Ben Saraf, ULM - Best passer in class as a game managing point guard and scorer
17. Noah Penda, Le Mans - Menacing wing defender and offensive connector
18. Miles Byrd, San Diego State - Stocks machine with shooting potential
19. Kon Knueppel, Duke - Three point sniper with shooting versatility and P&R playmaking chops
20. Johni Broome, Auburn - Versatile playmaking forward as one of best NCAA players in the country
21. Kam Jones, Marquette - Paint touch machine, three-level scorer who can pass
22. Nolan Traore, Saint-Quentin - Quick first step point guard who is a willing shooter and active defender
23. Rasheer Fleming, Saint Joseph’s - Big wing who can shoot with a 7’5” wingspan
24. Egor Demin, BYU - Elite passer with inconsistent play against top competition
25. Liam McNeeley, Connecticut - Three point threat who attacks closeouts looking to finish strong
26. Danny Wolf, Michigan - Unique ball-handling point center with quick processing skills
27. Adou Thiero, Arkansas - Physical slasher who creates events on defense
28. Darrion Williams, Texas Tech - Skilled upperclassman who can shoot and pass from the wing
29. Anthony Robinson II, Missouri - Point-of-attack demon with some ball skills
30. Boogie Fland, Arkansas - Game managing shooter and passer out for season

31. Hugo Gonzalez, Real Madrid - Toolsy high motor player with versatility
32. Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton - Big man upperclassman who dominates the paint on both ends
33. Flory Bidunga, Kansas- Undersized but hyper-athletic rangy big
34. Alex Karaban, Connecticut - Elite shooter and wing defender, national champion
35. Will Riley, Illinois - Under-developed young wing shooter and passer


… the rest of the top 60 is on their site
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#549 » by phincsfan » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:11 am

redslastlaugh wrote:SwishTheory with a succinct top 60 released yesterday
https://theswishtheory.com/2025-nba-draft-articles/2025/01/2025-nba-draft-big-board-1-0/


1. Cooper Flagg, Duke - Do-it-all wing with premium skill and athleticism
2. Dylan Harper, Rutgers - Bruising driving guard and potent scorer
3. Khaman Maluach, Duke - Towering young big with upside as a play finisher and rim protector
4. VJ Edgecombe, Baylor - Explosive scoring guard and lockdown defender
5. Kasparas Jakucionis, Illinois - Pull-up maestro with passing creativity
6. Collin Murray-Boyles, South Carolina - Elite playmaking forward on both sides of the ball
7. Ace Bailey, Rutgers - Versatile shooting wing with dynamic athleticism
8. Derik Queen, Maryland - Creative big-bodied drive threat who can pass
9. Tre Johnson, Texas - Versatile scoring, smooth three point shooting bucket-getter
10. Thomas Sorber, Georgetown - Tough freshman PF with strong feel for the game
11. Jeremiah Fears, Oklahoma - Young lead guard with dribble, pass, shoot upside
12. Noa Essengue, ULM - Sinewy rim attacker with budding ball skills and defensive versatility
13. Asa Newell, Georgia - Versatile defender, glass-crashing post-up threat developing three point shot
14. Jase Richardson, Michigan State - Three-level scoring guard with quick processing

15. Labaron Philon, Alabama - Gadgety, versatile, productive guard every team could use
16. Ben Saraf, ULM - Best passer in class as a game managing point guard and scorer
17. Noah Penda, Le Mans - Menacing wing defender and offensive connector
18. Miles Byrd, San Diego State - Stocks machine with shooting potential
19. Kon Knueppel, Duke - Three point sniper with shooting versatility and P&R playmaking chops
20. Johni Broome, Auburn - Versatile playmaking forward as one of best NCAA players in the country
21. Kam Jones, Marquette - Paint touch machine, three-level scorer who can pass
22. Nolan Traore, Saint-Quentin - Quick first step point guard who is a willing shooter and active defender
23. Rasheer Fleming, Saint Joseph’s - Big wing who can shoot with a 7’5” wingspan
24. Egor Demin, BYU - Elite passer with inconsistent play against top competition
25. Liam McNeeley, Connecticut - Three point threat who attacks closeouts looking to finish strong
26. Danny Wolf, Michigan - Unique ball-handling point center with quick processing skills
27. Adou Thiero, Arkansas - Physical slasher who creates events on defense
28. Darrion Williams, Texas Tech - Skilled upperclassman who can shoot and pass from the wing
29. Anthony Robinson II, Missouri - Point-of-attack demon with some ball skills
30. Boogie Fland, Arkansas - Game managing shooter and passer out for season

31. Hugo Gonzalez, Real Madrid - Toolsy high motor player with versatility
32. Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton - Big man upperclassman who dominates the paint on both ends
33. Flory Bidunga, Kansas- Undersized but hyper-athletic rangy big
34. Alex Karaban, Connecticut - Elite shooter and wing defender, national champion
35. Will Riley, Illinois - Under-developed young wing shooter and passer


… the rest of the top 60 is on their site


Boogie’s season ending surgery could be a good thing for the C’s if he slides in the draft. He’s a guy I’d move up for.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#550 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:14 am

With the Luka trade, the Lakers 2025 pick going to Atlanta is unprotected and it might be a lottery pick.
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Post#551 » by phincsfan » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:56 am

Fierce1 wrote:With the Luka trade, the Lakers 2025 pick going to Atlanta is unprotected and it might be a lottery pick.


LA has no incentive to tank

They’ll make more moves for sure
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Post#552 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:02 pm

phincsfan wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:With the Luka trade, the Lakers 2025 pick going to Atlanta is unprotected and it might be a lottery pick.


LA has no incentive to tank

They’ll make more moves for sure

Agree.

It will become a totally new team once Lebron asks out.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#553 » by phincsfan » Sun Feb 2, 2025 12:07 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
phincsfan wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:With the Luka trade, the Lakers 2025 pick going to Atlanta is unprotected and it might be a lottery pick.


LA has no incentive to tank

They’ll make more moves for sure

Agree.

It will become a totally new team once Lebron asks out.


People were pissed that JJ called Bronny out the other night. Maybe JJ had this all planned out for a minute. Smart Blue Devils :D
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Post#554 » by snowman » Wed Feb 5, 2025 2:08 pm

I hope Brad does not use the 1st this year to move Springer or Tillman unless he is getting back a couple 2nd's. I think either of them could be moved with attaching a future 2nd, hopefully.

However, if Brad keeps the 1st this year, I would like to see him get either Broome or Wolf to bring along as a Horford replacement down the road. Tillman is not getting it. Unless he is injured and the team doesn't talk about it, Tillman has been a huge disappointment.

With the 2nd round pick I would like to see Brad get Will Riely unless someone better drops out of the 1st round. He looks like the scorer / slasher I would like to see off the bench to go along with shooters PP, Hauser and Scheierman and defensive guys Queta, Kornet and Walsh.
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Post#555 » by djFan71 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:25 pm

Gotta lose a few more games and let the Grizz/Rockets pass us, lol. Traore at 27 in this big board.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#556 » by Hal14 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:33 pm

snowman wrote:With the 2nd round pick I would like to see Brad get Will Riely unless someone better drops out of the 1st round. He looks like the scorer / slasher I would like to see off the bench to go along with shooters PP, Hauser and Scheierman and defensive guys Queta, Kornet and Walsh.

Riley is not much of a slasher. He's really more just a tall (6'8.5" or so) guy who can shoot..(but isn't even shooting that great, 33% from 3 and under 70% FT) along with meh defense..and a little bit of ball handling, playmaking juice, so he's basically Drew Peterson except worse shooting but a few yrs younger.

Not bad for a 2nd round flier but wouldn't be too high on my priority list.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#557 » by snowman » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:00 pm

Hal14 wrote:
snowman wrote:With the 2nd round pick I would like to see Brad get Will Riely unless someone better drops out of the 1st round. He looks like the scorer / slasher I would like to see off the bench to go along with shooters PP, Hauser and Scheierman and defensive guys Queta, Kornet and Walsh.

Riley is not much of a slasher. He's really more just a tall (6'8.5" or so) guy who can shoot..(but isn't even shooting that great, 33% from 3 and under 70% FT) along with meh defense..and a little bit of ball handling, playmaking juice, so he's basically Drew Peterson except worse shooting but a few yrs younger.

Not bad for a 2nd round flier but wouldn't be too high on my priority list.


Fair enough. Just going on what I read at Tankathon. What I think our bench crew is missing is an athletic slasher dunker to the hoop. We have the shooters, and we can always bring up Peterson for another one. But the slasher / dunker is something we only have in Tatum and Brown.
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Post#558 » by phincsfan » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:09 pm

The Wiz trade away two of their most productive players and end up winning their 3rd game in a row :lol:
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Post#559 » by djFan71 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:18 pm

phincsfan wrote:The Wiz trade away two of their most productive players and end up winning their 3rd game in a row :lol:

Good thing they had such a big lead in the loss column over NOP.
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Post#560 » by 165bows » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:20 pm

Take Danny Wolf and Jojo Tugler.

Let's restock the front court.

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