Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion

[KnixinSix]

Keep in mind he’s also a 29 year old that’s on a minimum contract without bird rights, no real path to resign him. Our 2nd rd pick collection is getting thin, so not sure I would back the truck up here.

Maybe Yabusele and a 2nd for Pacome could make sense. This at least opens up the taxpayer mid level to keep Yaba around long term and gives Philly a development prospect on a rookie scale deal the next 3 years.

The Eric Gordon piece is interesting as well, as he’s probably an upgrade over Cam Payne in that role.

I don't know if Philly would deal with us but its an interesting trade idea. He is supercheap salary matching wise and no need then to give up Precious or Mitch.

I also like Boucher and Masai may be willing to gamble on Mitchs health for later this season and next on a reasonable contract.

Kolek Im betting is viewed by some as a pretty high upside PG. That vision and passing ability is elite and he has most definitely flashed it.

Boucher + Ochai for Mitch and Kolek and a pick makes sense to me. We only get 1/2 year out of Boucher but get Ochai for another full season. They get a few years out of Kolek and another full season of Mitch.

A "full season" of Mitch is what? Mitch has averaged 53 games played a season over his 6 year career.

53 games of Mitch still has value.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

I don't know if Philly would deal with us but its an interesting trade idea. He is supercheap salary matching wise and no need then to give up Precious or Mitch.

I also like Boucher and Masai may be willing to gamble on Mitchs health for later this season and next on a reasonable contract.

Kolek Im betting is viewed by some as a pretty high upside PG. That vision and passing ability is elite and he has most definitely flashed it.

Boucher + Ochai for Mitch and Kolek and a pick makes sense to me. We only get 1/2 year out of Boucher but get Ochai for another full season. They get a few years out of Kolek and another full season of Mitch.

A "full season" of Mitch is what? Mitch has averaged 53 games played a season over his 6 year career.

53 games of Mitch still has value.

64% of a full NBA season, I suppose so.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I don't know if Philly would deal with us but its an interesting trade idea. He is supercheap salary matching wise and no need then to give up Precious or Mitch.

I also like Boucher and Masai may be willing to gamble on Mitchs health for later this season and next on a reasonable contract.

Kolek Im betting is viewed by some as a pretty high upside PG. That vision and passing ability is elite and he has most definitely flashed it.

Boucher + Ochai for Mitch and Kolek and a pick makes sense to me. We only get 1/2 year out of Boucher but get Ochai for another full season. They get a few years out of Kolek and another full season of Mitch.

A "full season" of Mitch is what? Mitch has averaged 53 games played a season over his 6 year career.

53 games of Mitch still has value.

His trade market is basically Chris Boucher right now, he doesn't have much value to anyone but us for the 30 or so games he plays.

[spree8]

Yabusele has 28/7 against the Nuggets while playing center. I wouldn't trade him if I were them.

Keep in mind he’s also a 29 year old that’s on a minimum contract without bird rights, no real path to resign him. Our 2nd rd pick collection is getting thin, so not sure I would back the truck up here.

Maybe Yabusele and a 2nd for Pacome could make sense. This at least opens up the taxpayer mid level to keep Yaba around long term and gives Philly a development prospect on a rookie scale deal the next 3 years.

The Eric Gordon piece is interesting as well, as he’s probably an upgrade over Cam Payne in that role.

I don't know if Philly would deal with us but its an interesting trade idea. He is supercheap salary matching wise and no need then to give up Precious or Mitch.

I also like Boucher and Masai may be willing to gamble on Mitchs health for later this season and next on a reasonable contract.

Kolek Im betting is viewed by some as a pretty high upside PG. That vision and passing ability is elite and he has most definitely flashed it.

Boucher + Ochai for Mitch and Kolek and a pick makes sense to me. We only get 1/2 year out of Boucher but get Ochai for another full season. They get a few years out of Kolek and another full season of Mitch.

Switch Kolek to Dadiet and I’d do that deal.


Brunson | Deuce
Mikal | Deuce/ Agbaji
Hart | Agbaji
OG | Boucher
Towns | Achiuwa


Is a legit 9 man rotation. If Thibs felt generous, giving Cam a few mins per game would be nice, but if not, that’s still a strong bench.

[thebuzzardman]

A "full season" of Mitch is what? Mitch has averaged 53 games played a season over his 6 year career.

53 games of Mitch still has value.

His trade market is basically Chris Boucher right now, he doesn't have much value to anyone but us for the 30 or so games he plays.

[Knick4Real]

A lot comes down to what teams think of Kolek's upside (which Im betting quite a few feel is pretty high and therefore worth a decent valued first round pick i.e more than just a typical contenders non lottery type pick)

We also know they worked out Dadiet and are on a longer term rebuild so he fits their timeline too.

We will find out in a few days.

it’s not gonna be cheap, it was reported a few days ago the lakers keep calling about kessler but ainge’s asking price is sky high

No doubt . For this iteration I have:

Kolek+ Dadiet+ 2030 1st pick swap+ 3-4 2ndRPs

The reason they do it is the belief they like Kolek and Dadiet a good amount i.e the value of around 2 decent 1st round picks. They are on a longer timeline so Dadiet and the 2030 has more value for a team like that.

Again it might not work out but to think that is not a legit offer for a nice role player but not superstar in Kessler is silly

You're half right.

For MOST teams, that would be a legitimate offer. For Danny Ainge, who is maniacal, it's just not enough.

[spree2kawhi]

it’s not gonna be cheap, it was reported a few days ago the lakers keep calling about kessler but ainge’s asking price is sky high

No doubt . For this iteration I have:

Kolek+ Dadiet+ 2030 1st pick swap+ 3-4 2ndRPs

The reason they do it is the belief they like Kolek and Dadiet a good amount i.e the value of around 2 decent 1st round picks. They are on a longer timeline so Dadiet and the 2030 has more value for a team like that.

Again it might not work out but to think that is not a legit offer for a nice role player but not superstar in Kessler is silly

You're half right.

For MOST teams, that would be a legitimate offer. For Danny Ainge, who is maniacal, it's just not enough.

I hope you’re wrong…

[KnixinSix]

No doubt . For this iteration I have:

Kolek+ Dadiet+ 2030 1st pick swap+ 3-4 2ndRPs

The reason they do it is the belief they like Kolek and Dadiet a good amount i.e the value of around 2 decent 1st round picks. They are on a longer timeline so Dadiet and the 2030 has more value for a team like that.

Again it might not work out but to think that is not a legit offer for a nice role player but not superstar in Kessler is silly

You're half right.

For MOST teams, that would be a legitimate offer. For Danny Ainge, who is maniacal, it's just not enough.

I hope you’re wrong…

While I was quite confident of the KAT deal happening and believed Bridges and OG could happen this one is not confident belief it will happen but moreso a hopeful one. I get the Ainge factor makes this more difficult.

Boucher or Beef Stew are other possibilities.

[DaGawd]

i’m fine if we make no trades. a lot of these names don’t move the needle for us

[ispitmoney1]

How do we feel about a Myles Turner trade?

His ~$20 million salary makes him gettable without giving up a core piece.

Turner for Robinson, Sims, Dadiet, Kolek, 1 first, and a couple 2nds?

Center position is completely solidified.

[R-DAWG]

Which is EXACTLY why the 2030 would have strong value to some teams. Combine that with at least entertaining the possibility that Kolek has decent value Virgina and the offer I mentioned above absolutely at least has potential to be a strong offer for a non superstar but nice role player in Kessler.

Ainge is always using media to drive up the price and will wait till last minute to make his deal. If he likes Kolek enough and that 2030 enough (which at the very least is a possibility) then a Kolek/Dadiet/2030 swap/couple 2nds offer is very strong.

Last week, the Jazz traded three first-rounders to the Phoenix Suns for a 2031 unprotected first-round pick. Utah traded away its 2025 least favorable first-round pick (Cleveland, Minnesota, or Utah (protected)), 2027 least favorable first-round pick (Cleveland, Minnesota, or Utah), and 2029 least favorable first-round pick (Cleveland, Minnesota (protected), or Utah). Ainge wants to replace the 2027 AND the 2029 picks, both of which were offered by Lakers. ESPN’s Shams Charania reported that the Lakers have made several offers for Kessler and have been rebuffed, as have many other teams. It's clear that the sole Knicks 2030 and Kolek won't get it done.

Ok I hear you and you could be absolutely right.... However, trades like this can be more nuanced in the overall grand scheme of things. For instance, what if there are other things that Ainge is trying to do.....And if they go through, he will value a strong prospect more in a subsequent deal and if that's the case and he does like Kolek a lot and that 2030, our offer could be a very strong offer for them. I am not even calling this a 50/50 thing but I am acknowledging that the potential is there.

Zeroing in on the 2030 pick swap - it can probably traded for a weaker outright first from a team like OKC (the Clippers did this last year) to create an additional trade asset. Still not enough to get Kessler as Ainge doesn't seem to be trading him, but it can create an option.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

i’m fine if we make no trades. a lot of these names don’t move the needle for us

Yeah, won't be surprised if we just get a few months of the regular season Mitch before the playoffs, and call it a day.

[nykballa2k4]

Now that Jazz dealt with the Clipps. Can we get Mo Bamba?
Sims SRP for Bamba?

[spree2kawhi]

Now that Jazz dealt with the Clipps. Can we get Mo Bamba?
Sims SRP for Bamba?

You know they got him to replace Kessler’s shot-blocking…

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks trade Mitch for a parcel of scrubs yet?

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks don't need Mo Bamba and his anencephalic like head

[R-DAWG]

Now that Jazz dealt with the Clipps. Can we get Mo Bamba?
Sims SRP for Bamba?

You know they got him to replace Kessler’s shot-blocking…

Based on this, how many first rd picks does Utah need to add to Kessler to land super rookies Pacome Dadiet and Tyler Kolek

[R-DAWG]

You're half right.

For MOST teams, that would be a legitimate offer. For Danny Ainge, who is maniacal, it's just not enough.

I hope you’re wrong…

While I was quite confident of the KAT deal happening and believed Bridges and OG could happen this one is not confident belief it will happen but moreso a hopeful one. I get the Ainge factor makes this more difficult.

Boucher or Beef Stew are other possibilities.

Are either of these guys a significant upgrade from Precious?

[KnixinSix]

I hope you’re wrong…

While I was quite confident of the KAT deal happening and believed Bridges and OG could happen this one is not confident belief it will happen but moreso a hopeful one. I get the Ainge factor makes this more difficult.

Boucher or Beef Stew are other possibilities.

Are either of these guys a significant upgrade from Precious?

In different ways yeah. Boucher is hitting 39% from 3 and can guard 3 to 5 with decent rim protection. Beef Stew is a bulkier enforcer with less offense than Boucher but elite level rim protection and brings a presence on the court.

[nykballa2k4]

While I was quite confident of the KAT deal happening and believed Bridges and OG could happen this one is not confident belief it will happen but moreso a hopeful one. I get the Ainge factor makes this more difficult.

Boucher or Beef Stew are other possibilities.

Are either of these guys a significant upgrade from Precious?

In different ways yeah. Boucher is hitting 39% from 3 and can guard 3 to 5 with decent rim protection. Beef Stew is a bulkier enforcer with less offense than Boucher but elite level rim protection and brings a presence on the court.

Would love to add Stew, but Boucher is in his 30's, he is frail, and is just an awkward player for what we need. Couple that with losing Precious and/or Mitch.. nah