Luka to Lakers. AD to Mavs.

[Jcool0]

So after all of this the only hope the NBA has is to make sure the Bulls get Cooper Flagg. Right? RIGHT???

[chitowndish]

I feel like this seems similar to Miami and Lillard where the agents had a move and preferred destination set up but Dallas just capitulated instantly where Portland fought it. There are a lot of stories about how this was a big surprise to everyone but I don't see it. Especially not going around the league to see what they could get and just calling the Lakers, they could have had just about any player in the NBA, I wouldn't give up Wemby and I probably keep rolling with Jokic because he's proven it but I think that may be about it.

Feel bad for Dallas fans, we've had a lot of pain here but I can't even imagine this one because they actively did it to themselves just a straight gut punch and after making the fkn finals.

[waffle]

it'll likely have ripple effects though - other trades. It's a huge shakeup

[MrSparkle]

So after all of this the only hope the NBA has is to make sure the Bulls get Cooper Flagg. Right? RIGHT???

Pretty sure we’re gonna resign Giddey. That’s even better than a #1 draft pick!

[Hangtime84]

This is the new CBA

[Jcool0]

So after all of this the only hope the NBA has is to make sure the Bulls get Cooper Flagg. Right? RIGHT???

Pretty sure we’re gonna resign Giddey. That’s even better than a #1 draft pick!

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[boozapalooza]

it'll likely have ripple effects though - other trades. It's a huge shakeup

Vuc to the Lakers seems far more possible now, no? The Lakers have to get a big man.

[League Circles]

Like many of us said (in the context of possibly trading Zach to the Lakers for a package including their pick(s)), the Lakers are more likely to win a way to not suck than they are to suck, at virtually any point in the future.

[Grodoboldo]

I feel so bad for Mav fans. It **** sucks to be hopeless about your franchise present and future. I know it damn well.

[MissileMike]

it'll likely have ripple effects though - other trades. It's a huge shakeup

Vuc to the Lakers seems far more possible now, no? The Lakers have to get a big man.

I think Capela makes a lot more sense for them, assuming they can re-sign him.

[ChettheJet]

First, nobody here nor any of the insider know it all experts saw this coming so let's stop acting like the rumors that everybody hears are anything but talk.

second. From as far back as the Bulls are from big deals, this could open 2 doors very wide.

LAL have Jaxson Hayes to start at center and that would be worse than what the Bulls could be left with after any proposed deal to this point. Wouldn't that seem to make their next move getting Vucevic from the Bulls?

DAL looks to have Quentin Grimes as their starting SG, 12 starts this year 10PPG scoring. I don't know about you but if they intend to be a contender Zach Lavine starting for them would be a major step UP.

[SfBull]

Luka is an uber talent, but IMO he's doesn't take the game seriously enough. Bad fit with LBJ, but if there was ever a guy who body shame him.

ESPN said that he was up for a $343 million deal and they thought his lack of conditioning led to too many injuries.

AD/Kyrie pairing seems like a better fit for winning. They may have enough assets to bring in a 3rd star to balance out the roster. They can probably turn Gafford or Lively/Washington/Pick(s)/Thompson/young guys into someone good...Zach?

Mavs will need one more trade for contending,Zach would be very useful for them.I'm not sure if that would be a good trade for the Bulls.

[Andi Obst]

Even if you feel like you have good reasons to trade Luka now, not listening to offers from all teams that are potentially interested is management malpractice. They could've gotten generational trade packages.

It should be title or bust for Nico Harrison this year.

[boozapalooza]

First, nobody here nor any of the insider know it all experts saw this coming so let's stop acting like the rumors that everybody hears are anything but talk.

second. From as far back as the Bulls are from big deals, this could open 2 doors very wide.

LAL have Jaxson Hayes to start at center and that would be worse than what the Bulls could be left with after any proposed deal to this point. Wouldn't that seem to make their next move getting Vucevic from the Bulls?

DAL looks to have Quentin Grimes as their starting SG, 12 starts this year 10PPG scoring. I don't know about you but if they intend to be a contender Zach Lavine starting for them would be a major step UP.

Isn’t Klay their starting SG? Maybe Dallas could move off that in a Zach trade, but probably unlikely given they just signed him.

[SfBull]

Even if you feel like you have good reasons to trade Luka now, not listening to offers from all teams that are potentially interested is management malpractice. They could've gotten generational trade packages.

It should be title or bust for Nico Harrison this year.

It'll surely be bust as Mavs won't win the Lakers and especially OKC in the playoffs.

[leo921]

Irving/Klay/Washington/AD/Lively is a tough starting lineup. Lots of length, defense, rebounding, shotblocking with Washington/AD/Lively/Gafford. Plus have a solid bench of Dinwiddie/Grimes/Hardy/Marshall/Gafford. Can see the Mavs
being a solid tough team that can go far over the next 2-3 years.

Need to stay healthy and your window is only open 2-3 years.

[MrSparkle]

First, nobody here nor any of the insider know it all experts saw this coming so let's stop acting like the rumors that everybody hears are anything but talk.

second. From as far back as the Bulls are from big deals, this could open 2 doors very wide.

LAL have Jaxson Hayes to start at center and that would be worse than what the Bulls could be left with after any proposed deal to this point. Wouldn't that seem to make their next move getting Vucevic from the Bulls?

DAL looks to have Quentin Grimes as their starting SG, 12 starts this year 10PPG scoring. I don't know about you but if they intend to be a contender Zach Lavine starting for them would be a major step UP.

I don’t think you could pair Luka with any less than a top-20 shot blocker... which they kind of had in Lively and Gafford.

Lakers are going to have to make a move for Kessler, Turner, Clingan, Goga, RW3, Poeltl or Claxton. Reaves should get it done. Vuc is not going to LA.

However, I’d call Dallas and offer Vuc. Anybody.

[rosenthall]

I think this trade means at least one of these three is true:

- The NBA is just rigged in some ways.
- The new CBA has made draft picks REALLY valuable, and the days of the godfather deal are behind us
- Lots of teams treat the aprons as a hard cap, which makes supermax contracts superlatively difficult to hand out

[rosenthall]

I have no problem believing the Mavs didn't want to pay Luka due to some internal knowledge/conflict.

The really hard part here is why not just canvas the league. If Luka publicly demanded a trade, you'd have gotten more for him than this. How did you not get both the Lakers unprotected picks in this deal and a swap option?

I agree that the inclination to trade Luka is believable.

But the return they got is unbelievable.

Even in the case that Luka refused to resign with the Mavs and was using his agent to force his way to LA, it's bananas that the Lakers just acquired Luka Doncic without giving up Austin Reeves or multiple 1st round picks.

[Jcool0]

I think this trade means at least one of these three is true:

- The NBA is just rigged in some ways.
- The new CBA has made draft picks REALLY valuable, and the days of the godfather deal are behind us
- Lots of teams treat the aprons as a hard cap, which makes supermax contracts superlatively difficult to hand out

- The Mavs GM is really bad at his job.