Luka to Lakers. AD to Mavs.

MrSparkle · Post #41 » by **MrSparkle** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:55 pm

I have long felt like the supermax actually hurts most NBA teams. Even bird rights. Obviously any MVP with 100s of millions in ad and sponsorship revenues is going to give 2 ****s staying put for an extra $30M over 5y if the alternative is going to Hollywood or Miami.

Might need to start attaching ownership stake to these superstar contracts.

cocktailswith_2short · Post #42 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:59 pm

Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

Jcool0 · Post #43 » by **Jcool0** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:33 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

Luka for his career averages 28/9/8... If true... Let him to continue to not love the game.

CROBulls · Post #44 » by **CROBulls** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:36 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

Maybe lakers are interested in trading him for Patrick Williams. :wink:

cocktailswith_2short · Post #45 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:38 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

Luka for his career averages 28/9/8... If true... Let him to continue to not love the game.

He's very very good . But man if hed just get in shape the world would be his plum .

The Explorer · Post #46 » by **The Explorer** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:42 pm

I don't see how Lakers defense holds up long term without Davis. Doncic and James and Reaves are all awful defenders. Lots of whining to refs and not getting back on defense incoming.

Dan Z · Post #47 » by **Dan Z** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:42 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

Luka for his career averages 28/9/8... If true... Let him to continue to not love the game.

He's very very good . But man if hed just get in shape the world would be his plum .

Maybe this trade motivates him...?

Dan Z · Post #48 » by **Dan Z** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:45 pm

SfBull wrote:
sco wrote:Luka is an uber talent, but IMO he's doesn't take the game seriously enough. Bad fit with LBJ, but if there was ever a guy who body shame him.

ESPN said that he was up for a $343 million deal and they thought his lack of conditioning led to too many injuries.

AD/Kyrie pairing seems like a better fit for winning. They may have enough assets to bring in a 3rd star to balance out the roster. They can probably turn Gafford or Lively/Washington/Pick(s)/Thompson/young guys into someone good...Zach?

Mavs will need one more trade for contending,Zach would be very useful for them.I'm not sure if that would be a good trade for the Bulls.

What about Butler to Dallas? I'm not sure if the numbers/assets could be worked out...?

SalmonsSuperfan · Post #49 » by **SalmonsSuperfan** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:46 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

You know you can be all those things and be great at basketball too. That guy is great at basketball and 25. This is so weird dude. You know it is. Everyone knows it’s weird and makes no sense. You don’t need to argue the other side, we can all just agree “wtf just happened”. Like, if he was available to the bulls, you wouldn’t want to give up everything on the team to trade for him? Of course you would. This is Pau Gasol 2.0.

cocktailswith_2short · Post #50 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:46 pm

Dan Z wrote:
cocktailswith_2short wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Luka for his career averages 28/9/8... If true... Let him to continue to not love the game.

He's very very good . But man if hed just get in shape the world would be his plum .

Maybe this trade motivates him...?

I suspect with the Mavs pr being his conditioning he will show up in a Lakers jersey looking better than he was . Id be blasting weights non stop if I was him .

WindyCityBorn · Post #51 » by **WindyCityBorn** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:03 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
rosenthall wrote:I think this trade means at least one of these three is true:

- The NBA is just rigged in some ways.
- The new CBA has made draft picks REALLY valuable, and the days of the godfather deal are behind us
- Lots of teams treat the aprons as a hard cap, which makes supermax contracts superlatively difficult to hand out

- The Mavs GM is really bad at his job.

He is great at his job. He will work for the Lakers within the next two years.

WesPeace · Post #52 » by **WesPeace** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:04 pm

boozapalooza wrote:
waffle wrote:it'll likely have ripple effects though - other trades. It's a huge shakeup

Vuc to the Lakers seems far more possible now, no? The Lakers have to get a big man.

But not another defensive blackhole.. they already look like one of worst D teams in league.

WesPeace · Post #53 » by **WesPeace** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:07 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

You are right about everything,except that he doesn't love basketball, he does, he loves it.

I hope this is a wake up call for him and he finally gets in shape and starts playing some D.

I think we will have at least 2 more trades coming for Lakers in next days. They need defenders badly around Luka, LeBron and Reaves.

Short term this is a good fit trade for Dallas, their starting lineup with Irving, Thompson, Washington, Davis and Lively will be good.
Bench mob with Hardy, Grimes, Dinwiddie, Christie, Marshall, Powell, Gafford, also pretty solid.
I would maybe even start Christie for Washington..

Andi Obst · Post #54 » by **Andi Obst** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:16 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

Luka for his career averages 28/9/8... If true... Let him to continue to not love the game.

He also led the Mavs to the Finals 8 months ago.

And also, even if all of the bad rumors about him are true, only talking to one team (or maybe two teams) is unacceptable.

nitetrain8603 · Post #55 » by **nitetrain8603** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:34 pm

sco wrote:Luka is an uber talent, but IMO he's doesn't take the game seriously enough. Bad fit with LBJ, but if there was ever a guy who body shame him.

ESPN said that he was up for a $343 million deal and they thought his lack of conditioning led to too many injuries.

AD/Kyrie pairing seems like a better fit for winning. They may have enough assets to bring in a 3rd star to balance out the roster. They can probably turn Gafford or Lively/Washington/Pick(s)/Thompson/young guys into someone good...Zach?

I get that but to then turn around and trade for probably the most often injured star player of his generation is asinine while not even opening up the bidding.

That's nuts and this is definitely veto worthy

It's GM malpractice tbh

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Jcool0 · Post #56 » by **Jcool0** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:38 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
rosenthall wrote:I think this trade means at least one of these three is true:

- The NBA is just rigged in some ways.
- The new CBA has made draft picks REALLY valuable, and the days of the godfather deal are behind us
- Lots of teams treat the aprons as a hard cap, which makes supermax contracts superlatively difficult to hand out

- The Mavs GM is really bad at his job.

He is great at his job. He will work for the Lakers within the next two years.

Um no.

boozapalooza · Post #57 » by **boozapalooza** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:52 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:Doncic is injured, fat , allegedly an alcoholic ,and possibly might not love basketball . Maybe it's time to stop putting him on a pedestal .

So dumb. HE TOOK HIS TEAM TO THE FINALS 7 MONTHS AGO. Hes a top 5 player in the league. Its blasphemy to think hes not worthy of being on a pedestal. Hes earned that. He averaged 33.9 points per game with 9.8 ast and 9.2 boards over a full season last year at the age of 24….

Btw hes been returned to clear from injury by Feb 8th. So youre saying hes fat, alcoholic, and doesnt love basketball. Jokic is also kinda fat and doesnt love basketball. Were not questioning him.

Btw “Cocktails with 2 short” is accusing a guy of being an alcoholic LMAO

SfBull · Post #58 » by **SfBull** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:05 pm

Dan Z wrote:
SfBull wrote:
sco wrote:Luka is an uber talent, but IMO he's doesn't take the game seriously enough. Bad fit with LBJ, but if there was ever a guy who body shame him.

ESPN said that he was up for a $343 million deal and they thought his lack of conditioning led to too many injuries.

AD/Kyrie pairing seems like a better fit for winning. They may have enough assets to bring in a 3rd star to balance out the roster. They can probably turn Gafford or Lively/Washington/Pick(s)/Thompson/young guys into someone good...Zach?

Mavs will need one more trade for contending,Zach would be very useful for them.I'm not sure if that would be a good trade for the Bulls.

What about Butler to Dallas? I'm not sure if the numbers/assets could be worked out...?

That'd be a very good trade for Mavs.

Jcool0 · Post #59 » by **Jcool0** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:22 pm

SfBull wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
SfBull wrote:Mavs will need one more trade for contending,Zach would be very useful for them.I'm not sure if that would be a good trade for the Bulls.

What about Butler to Dallas? I'm not sure if the numbers/assets could be worked out...?

That'd be a very good trade for Mavs.

If they traded half there team its possible.

Dan Z · Post #60 » by **Dan Z** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:39 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
SfBull wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
What about Butler to Dallas? I'm not sure if the numbers/assets could be worked out...?

That'd be a very good trade for Mavs.

If they traded half there team its possible.

Why would they have to trade half their team? Salary matching purposes? Im not sure how much value Butler has