Around the NBA (Part Two)

[winforlose]

If at the end of the season, Dallas win the title, everybody will say Cuban is a genius... Luka is injury prone, don't play defense and does not take care well of his body during off season. They got AD who play his best season ever. Big bet but it may work. Money is probably another reason.... the bad news is that it make LA and Dallas still in the race for PO.

1. You are missing the larger issue. Everyone is saying LAL owed more value. Reaves and the other first would still have been too little, but it at least makes more sense.

2. There were so many better offers out there. Imagine getting Chet, JW, and 4 or 5 firsts. I believe OKC would have done that to pair Luka and SGA for the next 7 years. Houston could have given a lot, the Bucks might have moved Ginnias, ect…

3. AD is 31 and injury prone as well. They gave up pre prime Luka for late/post prime AD. This isn’t just a gamble, it is the kinda thing that kills fan base enthusiasm for a team. Remember how pissed we were with the Karl trade, well imagine it was Ant and we traded him for AD.

I don't know if OKC wants to trade anyone right now, they are in 1st place with cheap contracts but interesting idea. Dallas wants a win now player and Davis is underrated. He has been playing great defense. I think he also age better too. DAL maybe just tired dealing with Luka's whining and injuries.

This is the supersized version of Randle for Murray

Maybe in reverse. Randle is the older and less well fitting player going out for the position of greatest need. Murray is the younger more talented player who happens to be out for a while after a bad injury year. Of course neither is All NBA, neither is an MVP candidate or DPOA, and my trade suggestion isn’t done outside of normal NBA channels. So maybe not so similar ?

[Neeva]

Don’t do drugs folks, like the Mavericks LOL

I am glad though because I feel like this would have been Ant in a few years that the league would have wanted on the **** Lakers when Lebron finally is done , and Ant doesn’t seem to like Doncic at all so that’s never happening!

[winforlose]

Does the way this trade went down feel like a dark mark on the league to anyone else? Like maybe this was a first step down a very bad path.

[TimberKat]

Don’t do drugs folks, like the Mavericks LOL

I am glad though because I feel like this would have been Ant in a few years that the league would have wanted on the **** Lakers when Lebron finally is done , and Ant doesn’t seem to like Doncic at all so that’s never happening!

Do you mean Luka or DAL GM? Maybe somebody's got some compromising photos. Being close to Hollywood, Lakers will always come out on top in those situations

[shrink]

According to insiders, part of the reason DAL traded Luka was because they didn’t trust his health on a supermax. It’s a risk that DAL thought they could reduce with other players.

This is part of the reason for the Towns trade. Granted, MIN’s return is much less, but KAT isn’t close to an MVP candidate, he’s older, and he’s had a lot more injuries than Luka. A supermax on a superstar is a good deal when they’re healthy, but if (when?) KAT gets injured again, on that supermax he has the potential to be the worst contract in the league.

DAL made a bolder move, but it makes me feel a like better that other GMs see the risk involved with these expensive contracts with multi-year money.

[Nick K]

According to insiders, part of the reason DAL traded Luka was because they didn’t trust his health on a supermax. It’s a risk that DAL thought they could reduce with other players.

This is part of the reason for the Towns trade. Granted, MIN’s return is much less, but KAT isn’t close to an MVP candidate, he’s older, and he’s had a lot more injuries than Luka. A supermax on a superstar is a good deal when they’re healthy, but if (when?) KAT gets injured again, on that supermax he has the potential to be the worst contract in the league.

DAL made a bolder move, but it makes me feel a like better that other GMs see the risk involved with these expensive contracts with multi-year money.

Obviously Dallas was scared to death over Luka's future health, money etc. as you said. I like the AD fit in Dallas. As great as Luka is he is his own worst enemy. Luka appears to be undisciplined and reads too many of his own press clippings. Luka like Zion scare the hell out of me. I don't blame Dallas for making this move.

[TimberKat]

According to insiders, part of the reason DAL traded Luka was because they didn’t trust his health on a supermax. It’s a risk that DAL thought they could reduce with other players.

This is part of the reason for the Towns trade. Granted, MIN’s return is much less, but KAT isn’t close to an MVP candidate, he’s older, and he’s had a lot more injuries than Luka. A supermax on a superstar is a good deal when they’re healthy, but if (when?) KAT gets injured again, on that supermax he has the potential to be the worst contract in the league.

DAL made a bolder move, but it makes me feel a like better that other GMs see the risk involved with these expensive contracts with multi-year money.

Obviously Dallas was scared to death over Luka's future health, money etc. as you said. I like the AD fit in Dallas. As great as Luka is he is his own worst enemy. Luka appears to be undisciplined and reads too many of his own press clippings. Luka like Zion scare the hell out of me. I don't blame Dallas for making this move.

I like the AD fit in Dallas too. However, I also feel it's a easier match up for Wolves than Kyrie + Luka

[shrink]

I wonder if DAL could have gotten Mobley and either Garland or Mitchell, if they shopped?

Another similarity with us - people were shocked we’d break up a team that did so well in the playoffs. DAL did better, and made a bigger change

[TimberKat]

I wonder if DAL could have gotten Mobley and either Garland or Mitchell, if they shopped?

Another similarity with us - people were shocked we’d break up a team that did so well in the playoffs. DAL did better, and made a bigger change

I wonder if there is a LBJ to Dallas trade to follow? Davis, Kyrie, LBJ, Clay on the same team. Great lineup for NBA legends game

[Klomp]

According to insiders, part of the reason DAL traded Luka was because they didn’t trust his health on a supermax. It’s a risk that DAL thought they could reduce with other players.

This is part of the reason for the Towns trade. Granted, MIN’s return is much less, but KAT isn’t close to an MVP candidate, he’s older, and he’s had a lot more injuries than Luka. A supermax on a superstar is a good deal when they’re healthy, but if (when?) KAT gets injured again, on that supermax he has the potential to be the worst contract in the league.

DAL made a bolder move, but it makes me feel a like better that other GMs see the risk involved with these expensive contracts with multi-year money.

Read on Twitter

[m2002brian]

Cavs up 91 to 46 on the Mavs…..

At half time. Lol

[Klomp]

In the extreme short-term, both the Lakers and Mavs may fall off somewhat. This creates an opportunity to climb the standings, while Luka is still recovering and Dallas is acclimating to things.

[cmoss84]

Anyone heard how mavs fans reacted to this?

[winforlose]

According to insiders, part of the reason DAL traded Luka was because they didn’t trust his health on a supermax. It’s a risk that DAL thought they could reduce with other players.

This is part of the reason for the Towns trade. Granted, MIN’s return is much less, but KAT isn’t close to an MVP candidate, he’s older, and he’s had a lot more injuries than Luka. A supermax on a superstar is a good deal when they’re healthy, but if (when?) KAT gets injured again, on that supermax he has the potential to be the worst contract in the league.

DAL made a bolder move, but it makes me feel a like better that other GMs see the risk involved with these expensive contracts with multi-year money.

Read on Twitter

Even on a supermax teams would falling over each other begging to trade for Luka. He is a top 5 player about to enter his prime. This argument is as non sensical as the return. The lack of competitive bidding suggests this was done with the purpose of getting Luka to LAL as cheaply as possible. In order for the Mavs to go along with it, something non basketball must have happened. My guess is the ownership group/family got a substantial sum of money. Who would pay that money, the sports betting community to get LAL back on top. I can easily see how a more engaged LA fan base is worth more than a Dallas fan base to sports books.

[shrink]

Anyone heard how mavs fans reacted to this?

Probably the same way I would react if we did this Laker deal with Ant, who has done far less than Luka.

[TimberKat]

Anyone heard how mavs fans reacted to this?

Especially those few that was trolling this board in last year's playoffs? Goes back to what I said before: following sports sucks. There is only one winner out of 30 teams every year Makes me feel better about the Towns trade now

[younggunsmn]

Wow it's like Nico Harrison saw our KAT trade and said Hold my Beer, I can make an even bigger mistake.

AD is a better return on paper than the chump change we got for KAT, but Luka Doncic is 25 years old and a top 2 player in the league (and 7 years younger than Davis).
He's also maybe the most stone cold crunch time killer in the entire sport, as we all witnessed in June.

In my eyes maybe the #1 trade asset in the entire league depending on your opinion of Victor.
Any team outside of maybe Denver and San Antonio (including us) would have traded their best player for Luka Doncic without even hanging up the phone.

Anthony Davis is just as injury prone if not much more so. And he's crying about wanting to play next to a Center.
He's looked like his old self again for about a season worth of games, but before that it was multiple years full of constant injuries.

Just a mind bogglingly stupid GM move.
Could only get one first round pick but even a whole haul of those is garbage when a guy is a top 2 player of his generation and 25 years old.

And a double gut punch that he's going to Los Angeles.
He's going to be the #1 hated player in the league as soon as Lebron retires. Maybe sooner.

[Dalvin]

Dallas probably misses the playoffs and then wins the Flagg sweepstakes as part of the deal of shipping Luka to the Lakers for Silver

[shrink]

I’ve listened to five national podcasts about this trade, and everyone is just stunned. Among the crazy things:

1. Mavs contacted the Lakers, and only the Lakers.
2. Luka did not ask for a trade
3. The GMs did not notify Luka or Davis. Or LeBron for that matter.
4. Davis didn’t take his full trade kicker, so the Mavs could stay under the lux.
5. Luka was back up into the high 260’s again, in shape he’s 245. Mavs worries about his commitment
6. Several people in organization used the phrase “held hostage” by Luka.
7. The Mavs didn’t even get both Laker 1sts.
8. DAL traded away all its future draft picks the last few years, which is scarier when you lose a 25 year old Luka.

Some are saying this is the worst trade ever. Congrats Rudy Gobert!

[younggunsmn]

I’ve listened to five national podcasts about this trade, and everyone is just stunned. Among the crazy things:

1. Mavs contacted the Lakers, and only the Lakers.
2. Luka did not ask for a trade
3. The GMs did not notify Luka or Davis. Or LeBron for that matter.
4. Davis didn’t take his full trade kicker, so the Mavs could stay under the lux.
5. Luka was back up into the high 260’s again, in shape he’s 245. Mavs worries about his commitment
6. Several people in organization used the phrase “held hostage” by Luka.
7. The Mavs didn’t even get both Laker 1sts.
8. DAL traded away all its future draft picks the last few years, which is scarier when you lose a 25 year old Luka.

Some are saying this is the worst trade ever. Congrats Rudy Gobert!

You can add up all the draft picks in the Rudy Gobert trade, Kevin Durant trade, and the Mikal Bridges trade and they still aren't worth one 25 year old Luka Doncic.