ATL - Embiid Out for the Season

[MiltownMadness]

Years? He dragged them to the finals six months ago. On a bad knee.

Dude just said Giannis is interchangeable with AD, not sure if he's blackout drunk or something

not blackout drunk. found out a couple hours ago that one of my 10 employees was brain dead and theyre pulling the plug in a couple hours. went in a couple days ago for seizures. sedated him. never woke up.

just wanted to post here on a big trade and get my mind off it with you guys.

cant believe i completely whiffed luka in the finals last year tho. thats kinda crazy i blocked that.

just maybe hold off the insults tho right?

Sorry to hear that. Let's talk bball

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Giannis on the Mavs would have been something.

Kyrie, Klay, PJ, Giannis, Gafford

i know this will be heresy here but giannis and AD are basically a wash. like id rather have giannis but in any given year and depending on roster makeup AD could be better

i should add i meant this post to mean dallas this year theyre a wash. tough to say the impact. i think with kyrie there and the other talent i just think similar.

defintely if nothing else i think the team will be able to adapt to each other and come together more quickly with AD than giannis for example. AD seems like hed be really easy to integrate

[tedbrogen]

Best part of this deal is the Mavs two best players are now 31 and 32 years old, tend to miss lots of games, and they own none of their own picks from 2027-2030. 27 is top two protected. The rest are unprotected.

[MiltownMadness]

Best part of this deal is the Mavs two best players are now 31 and 32 years old, tend to miss lots of games, and they own none of their own picks from 2027-2030. 27 is top two protected. The rest are unprotected.

Are the Mavs better than the Lakers were this season with AD? I don't think so.

[MiltownMadness]

There is a 0% chance Kyrie and AD make it through the West to the finals, a 1st round exit is their most likely outcome IMO

[StickeeFingaz]

I feel so bad for Mavs fans.

[tedbrogen]

Giannis on the Mavs would have been something.

Kyrie, Klay, PJ, Giannis, Gafford

i know this will be heresy here but giannis and AD are basically a wash. like id rather have giannis but in any given year and depending on roster makeup AD could be better

i should add i meant this post to mean dallas this year. i think with kyrie there and the other talent i think similar impacts. defintely i think the team will be able to adapt to each other and come together more quickly with AD than giannis for example

Because if you get to the finals and want to win a title, you’d rather have the guy AD than the guy with two 40 point games, a 50 point game, and a finals MVP? The guy who made one of the greatest defensive plays ever in the finals?

If you want to win a title, Giannis >>>>>>> AD.

[MiltownMadness]

Luka did such a good job putting lipstick on a pig with Kyrie, gave him a full redemption arc. Guessing we will get a Kyrie holding Mavs hostage situation at some point soon

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

i know this will be heresy here but giannis and AD are basically a wash. like id rather have giannis but in any given year and depending on roster makeup AD could be better

i should add i meant this post to mean dallas this year. i think with kyrie there and the other talent i think similar impacts. defintely i think the team will be able to adapt to each other and come together more quickly with AD than giannis for example

Because if you get to the finals and want to win a title, you’d rather have the guy AD than the guy with two 40 point games, a 50 point game, and a finals MVP? The guy who made one of the greatest defensive plays ever in the finals?

If you want to win a title, Giannis >>>>>>> AD.

yeah but we suck this year with giannis playing that way right?

team construction matters. you can agree or disagree but next to a dame or a kyrie im just gonna say that a HOFer big that doesnt need the ball on lead leading usage might be the better HOFer big. that isnt a hard concept either right?

[tedbrogen]

The best part of the “it’s about winning” argument is the Mavs were just in the finals with Luka. Do you think they 1) make the finals last year with AD instead of Luka and 2) proceed to beat Boston with AD instead of Luka?

Why am I even argue logic here. This trade is completely illogical. Maybe Kidd has more sway in the org than we know?

[Wooderson]

i know this will be heresy here but giannis and AD are basically a wash. like id rather have giannis but in any given year and depending on roster makeup AD could be better

WTF?

they are the premier pfs in the league.
both insanely good.
id take giannis handily.
however in some situations ADs range and IQ and non league leading usage may have better value to a team as it relates to winning

for example.... doncic is a better player and talent than AD. yet i believe that there is 100% absolutely no doubt that this year as constructed dallas will be immediately better. with kyrie they dont need another ball dominator and they massively improved defensively with the move. perhaps for dame hed improve with a partner like AD. stuff like this matters

AD is not a good long range shooter. Outside of the bubble run his outside shooting was crap on the Lakers.

10-16 FT: 40%
16-3P Line: 37%
3P%: 28%

Giannis has actually been better since 2020 (40%, 39%, 29%)

Very curious to see if the Mavs can survive bad spacing. Basically 2 bigs will be on the floor you can ignore from 3p line and PJ who's iffy. Defense will be great tho.

[Matches Malone]

The guys on the Mavs pre-game sound distraught.

[tedbrogen]

i should add i meant this post to mean dallas this year. i think with kyrie there and the other talent i think similar impacts. defintely i think the team will be able to adapt to each other and come together more quickly with AD than giannis for example

Because if you get to the finals and want to win a title, you’d rather have the guy AD than the guy with two 40 point games, a 50 point game, and a finals MVP? The guy who made one of the greatest defensive plays ever in the finals?

If you want to win a title, Giannis >>>>>>> AD.

yeah but we suck this year with giannis playing that way right?

team construction matters. you can agree or disagree but next to a dame or a kyrie im just gonna say that a HOFer big that doesnt need the ball on lead leading usage might be the better HOFer big. that isnt a hard concept either right?

Giannis always deferred to Midds when it mattered. He’s let Dame initiate in late game spots. He’d let Kyrie as well.

Giannis is a much better player than AD. that isnt a hard concept either right?

[drew881]

Luka looks fat af in that pic

He will easily make that money back in the form of cocaine in LA, and this is factoring in California state taxes.

and the habit might get him to lose some LBs!

This photo is great with Zion as the collateral damage:

https://www.facebook.com/share/14xJzbYZDQ/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[humanrefutation]

I saw this morning that the Mavs apparently approached another team three weeks ago offering Doncic for another star, only to be rebuffed. Makes me wonder if that's the Bucks.

[MiltownMadness]

I saw this morning that the Mavs apparently approached another team three weeks ago offering Doncic for another star, only to be rebuffed. Makes me wonder if that's the Bucks.

I think that's just a bunch of BS to get people to think this trade wasn't facilitated by the league in some way to get Luka to the Lakers. Say conspiracy or whatever but it's staring at us in the face

[worthlessBucks]

The people who mostly occupy those glorified Brand ambassador and player relations positions at Nike, Adidas, UA, etc are generally filled with ex athletes, friends/family/& other lifelong cronies who have surrounded themselves with professionals. Positions of proximity really designed to curry favor and rub elbows. Lot of unqualified morons basically.

Now you have one of those dudes from Nike literally giving away a central corner stone of a franchise to the Lakers with Lebron while citing his relationship with a former agent, now executive (Rob), as helping get the ball rolling. Whole thing stinks of incompetence, cronyism, collusion, and stupidity. Lakers likely couldn’t believe this. “Hacked” was the proper response because this was absurd.

Unbelievable nonsense still thinking about this.

[humanrefutation]

Interested to read that AD waived his trade kicker to facilitate the trade. I figured he'd be annoyed to have to leave LA, but apparently he must have wanted out, too.

[humanrefutation]

I saw this morning that the Mavs apparently approached another team three weeks ago offering Doncic for another star, only to be rebuffed. Makes me wonder if that's the Bucks.

I think that's just a bunch of BS to get people to think this trade wasn't facilitated by the league in some way to get Luka to the Lakers. Say conspiracy or whatever but it's staring at us in the face

If the league wanted Luka in LA, the least they could have done is require the Lakers to send out all of their tradeable picks and swaps.

[MiltownMadness]

I saw this morning that the Mavs apparently approached another team three weeks ago offering Doncic for another star, only to be rebuffed. Makes me wonder if that's the Bucks.

I think that's just a bunch of BS to get people to think this trade wasn't facilitated by the league in some way to get Luka to the Lakers. Say conspiracy or whatever but it's staring at us in the face

If the league wanted Luka in LA, the least they could have done is require the Lakers to send out all of their tradeable picks and swaps.

But that would make the Lakers worse in the future, which would be bad for ratings