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Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025

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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 – (Trade Deadline: Thu, Feb 6, 3:00 PM) 

Post#721 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:22 am

meatball sub wrote:how did the kings get more for fox than dallas got for luka. this is insane.

They didn't.

The Charlotte pick won't convey and will turn into 2 2nd rounders.
The SAS 2027 is unlikely to be a good pick.
The MIN 2031 is likely the good pick but not necessarily better than the LAL 2031.

AD is so much better than Lavine it's not comparable.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 – (Trade Deadline: Thu, Feb 6, 3:00 PM) 

Post#722 » by Fierce1 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:27 am

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Fierce1 wrote:With Al clearly on the decline, getting another big, like Yabusele, might be a good idea.

Tillman and a couple of 2nds or the 31st pick for Yabu sounds good.

Don't think Yabusele is going to be an option. Yabu is playing too well. Philly is going to want a 1st round pick and the Celtics can't pay him market value next year. Celtics would be giving up a 1st round pick for 30 games of Yabu. Philly is not looking to help the Celtics unless they pay. In my opinion it's highly unlikely Yabu is in a Celtics uniform this year.

Agree, it's a long shot.

Maybe the next best thing is Julian Champagnie.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 – (Trade Deadline: Thu, Feb 6, 3:00 PM) 

Post#723 » by SuperDeluxe » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:29 am

phincsfan wrote:Since PP didn’t play tonight does that mean he’s getting traded ?? :D

Kyrie Irving didn't play either. Hmm...
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Post#724 » by Fierce1 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:30 am

meatball sub wrote:how did the kings get more for fox than dallas got for luka. this is insane.

If AD is healthy in May, OKC might get beat by Dallas again.

AD is one of the best big men in the league, when healthy.
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Post#725 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:56 am

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Just speculation but Jaden Springer to the Kings could become a real option.
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Post#726 » by Fierce1 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:01 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
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Just speculation but Jaden Springer to the Kings could become a real option.

Brad needs to make it happen.
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Post#727 » by 31to6 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:01 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
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Just speculation but Jaden Springer to the Kings could become a real option.


(Sorry I’m going to say this, but) Obv checking on the availability of Jaden Springer will be one of their first phone calls
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Post#728 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:28 am

More rumors

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Post#729 » by phincsfan » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:49 am

31to6 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Read on Twitter


Just speculation but Jaden Springer to the Kings could become a real option.


(Sorry I’m going to say this, but) Obv checking on the availability of Jaden Springer will be one of their first phone calls


Is there another fan base more desperate to close another teams roster spot right now ? :lol:
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Post#730 » by jfs1000d » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:09 am

phincsfan wrote:The Mavericks are a top 5 attendance franchise in the league. 1 chip and 3 conference titles. Their fans will move on be content and be happy like they always have.

It wasnt like that before Dirk and Cuban. At one time, an nba laughing stock.


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Post#731 » by jfs1000d » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:11 am

Curmudgeon wrote:I want LeBron for two championship years. Then after the three-peat I want him to retire and get us out of cap hell.

Would rather lose the title. Lebron in green? No way.


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Post#732 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:26 am

meatball sub wrote:how did the kings get more for fox than dallas got for luka. this is insane.


that's a good question, for some reason the Mavs FO were hell-bent on sending him to LAL. Otherwise, they would've gotten enough to fully rebuild their roster. Again, not that crazy that they traded the guy, with everything being said, he's probably a big time prick and he's not a hard worker(just very talented on offense). With that said, it's a shocker that they didn't get 3-4 FRPs and a pick swap + a young guy along with an all-star type player.
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Post#733 » by cl2117 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 10:23 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
meatball sub wrote:how did the kings get more for fox than dallas got for luka. this is insane.


that's a good question, for some reason the Mavs FO were hell-bent on sending him to LAL. Otherwise, they would've gotten enough to fully rebuild their roster. Again, not that crazy that they traded the guy, with everything being said, he's probably a big time prick and he's not a hard worker(just very talented on offense). With that said, it's a shocker that they didn't get 3-4 FRPs and a pick swap + a young guy along with an all-star type player.

They clearly wanted the best single player they could get back in return for Luka so that they could still be relatively competitive and prioritized that over getting the best overall package. They also wanted to get it done without all the drama that would come from truly shopping him, so they engaged an incredibly limited number of teams, which really limited their negotiating power.

It's still surprising that they weren't able to completely squeeze the Lakers for everything that they had in the cupboard given LA's current situation and somewhat dire forward look. You'd think Nico could say "do you want the 25 year old generational talent for your post LeBron era or not?" but at the same time I kind of get it because once Dallas start down this road there really was no coming back. All hell breaks loose as soon as it leaks that they genuinely shopped Luka, so Pelinka probably knew he had some leverage and the only top 10 player definitely available for Luka.

If Nico said give me everything or I'm walking away and Pelinka call's his bluff, they are in for a **** storm of epic proportions. So he likely sacrificed squeezing extra value out for the sake of getting it done and dusted, which is a massive mistake obviously, but so was the idea to trade Luka in the first place anyway.
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Post#734 » by Fierce1 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 11:39 am

With LaVine going to the Kings, I wonder if Keon Ellis is available.

He's better than Springer and only has a 2m contract.
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Post#735 » by ryan in Maine » Mon Feb 3, 2025 11:52 am

Imagine if we had traded Tatum to get Porzingis lol.
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Post#736 » by 165bows » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:54 pm

31to6 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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Just speculation but Jaden Springer to the Kings could become a real option.


(Sorry I’m going to say this, but) Obv checking on the availability of Jaden Springer will be one of their first phone calls

Obviously this is all tongue in cheek but seems like that team really needs front court help.

Prob going to trade all the picks they just got for Yabs.
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Post#737 » by chrisab123 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 1:51 pm

ryan in Maine wrote:Imagine if we had traded Tatum to get Porzingis lol.


I get it but AD is far ahead of Porzingis in regards to physical ability. I think Porzingis gets locked in long term in the offseason, however let’s not fall into the trap everyone else is in regards to underrating AD.

Let’s also not forgot the **** riot on this board last year when the Celtics traded Marcus. Porzingis was a **** bum player and Marcus was the best defender in the league etc…
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 – (Trade Deadline: Thu, Feb 6, 3:00 PM) 

Post#738 » by snowman » Mon Feb 3, 2025 1:59 pm

If I were Brad, I would see about getting in on some of the smaller trades coming up as teams that just made big deals try to round out their rosters. There are also probably going to be many small two teams deals that may need a third team to help close it. I would be offering up Springer OR Tillman along with our 1st this year for someone that fits the Celtics needs more, like an athletic backup SG/SF. I know we don't have cap space, but we do have an open roster space and a couple moving pieces and a pick that could possibly be offered up. I know we can't combine salaries, that's why I said Springer OR Tillman. There are many players out there making less than the 4 mil Springer makes, and also many players making less than the 2.2 mil Tillman makes.

I don't think Brad is like anything like Danny was in not owning up to a bad trade that brought in someone that just doesn't fit in yet keeps him around because it would hurt Danny's rep. in winning every trade.
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Post#739 » by ryan in Maine » Mon Feb 3, 2025 2:11 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
ryan in Maine wrote:Imagine if we had traded Tatum to get Porzingis lol.


I get it but AD is far ahead of Porzingis in regards to physical ability. I think Porzingis gets locked in long term in the offseason, however let’s not fall into the trap everyone else is in regards to underrating AD.

Let’s also not forgot the **** riot on this board last year when the Celtics traded Marcus. Porzingis was a **** bum player and Marcus was the best defender in the league etc…

It doesn't change the value equation. Moving your cornerstone player for a guy on the wrong side of 30 who struggles with injuries is bad value even if you like the talent. Luka is worth significantly more than Dallas traded him for and the fanbase is understandably miffed at the inevitable downstream affects.

From a business standpoint, the trade is the very definition of leaving money on the table.

Maybe it works out for them in the playoffs. Kyrie can't do worse than he did here lol. Shrug.
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Post#740 » by ryan in Maine » Mon Feb 3, 2025 2:12 pm

snowman wrote:If I were Brad, I would see about getting in on some of the smaller trades coming up as teams that just made big deals try to round out their rosters. There are also probably going to be many small two teams deals that may need a third team to help close it. I would be offering up Springer OR Tillman along with our 1st this year for someone that fits the Celtics needs more, like an athletic backup SG/SF. I know we don't have cap space, but we do have an open roster space and a couple moving pieces and a pick that could possibly be offered up. I know we can't combine salaries, that's why I said Springer OR Tillman. There are many players out there making less than the 4 mil Springer makes, and also many players making less than the 2.2 mil Tillman makes.

I don't think Brad is like anything like Danny was in not owning up to a bad trade that brought in someone that just doesn't fit in yet keeps him around because it would hurt Danny's rep. in winning every trade.

What if Springer is our guy lol
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