[SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings

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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#161 » by Sactowndog » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:24 am

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Wargreymon wrote:Wow Kings got robbed blind by the Spurs. The crazy thing is that the Spurs still retain enough draft capital and young players to make another massive future trade for a young disgruntled star (appears to be a common trend now lol).

Spurs are going to rule the West next season onward. Don't know if they can salvage this year though


Kings improved their team, got rid of Huerter, gained some first-round picks and cap flexibility/TPE. I wouldn't say they got robbed despite Spurs not giving up anything. What did you think Kings were going to get? Vassel? Sochan? Castle? None of those players are nearly as good as Lavine. It would have been nice for the Kings to get that ATL pick but other than that no complaints from most Kings fans.


It was a horrible deal for the Kings who needed
1) to get longer
2) balance front court and back court
3) get better defensively.

They accomplished none of these. Some Kings fans will try to put lipstick on a pig because the Kings are the only Pro sports franchise we have. But season ticket holders I know will not renew their tickets until Monte is gone.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#162 » by Nate505 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:25 am

This is nice. A trade where I actually don't think Shams' account wasn't hacked.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#163 » by SNPA » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:32 am

Sactowndog wrote:
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Wargreymon wrote:Wow Kings got robbed blind by the Spurs. The crazy thing is that the Spurs still retain enough draft capital and young players to make another massive future trade for a young disgruntled star (appears to be a common trend now lol).

Spurs are going to rule the West next season onward. Don't know if they can salvage this year though


Kings improved their team, got rid of Huerter, gained some first-round picks and cap flexibility/TPE. I wouldn't say they got robbed despite Spurs not giving up anything. What did you think Kings were going to get? Vassel? Sochan? Castle? None of those players are nearly as good as Lavine. It would have been nice for the Kings to get that ATL pick but other than that no complaints from most Kings fans.


It was a horrible deal for the Kings who needed
1) to get longer
2) balance front court and back court
3) get better defensively.

They accomplished none of these. Some Kings fans will try to put lipstick on a pig because the Kings are the only Pro sports franchise we have. But season ticket holders I know will not renew their tickets until Monte is gone.

It’s Monte trying to I keep his job. He is placating Vivek with Zach and grabbing whatever else he can. Team needs barely come into play here.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#164 » by 316Hornets » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:33 am

This feels like a big win for the Spurs but I think this is just part 1 of the equation. They will add one more piece to form a big 3 of Wemby, Fox, ????. Once they get that missing piece, could compete for a title every year for the next decade.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#165 » by BoogieTime » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:27 am

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Sam is late to the party and not saying anything

Monk is clearly a better playmaker than Fox, has been the teams main playmaker and will play pg
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#166 » by Papi_swav » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:25 am

bro these owners and GMs really suck at their jobs, I mean 90% of RealGM posters that actually know the game can do a whole lot better job than them. The kings literally got nothing from this deal lol idk who got the worst end of the deal, the Kings or the Mavs. This is insane how these GMs actually get these jobs and the owners actually sign off on this.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#167 » by Papi_swav » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:30 am

316Hornets wrote:This feels like a big win for the Spurs but I think this is just part 1 of the equation. They will add one more piece to form a big 3 of Wemby, Fox, ????. Once they get that missing piece, could compete for a title every year for the next decade.

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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#168 » by Thaddy » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:35 am

The Spurs shouldn't have traded for Fox. He isn't a very good player. The Kings looked better without him.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#169 » by blackcosmos » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:41 am

That Rob Dillingham trade work out pretty well for the spurs given the this Fox trade
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#170 » by WestGOAT » Mon Feb 3, 2025 10:26 am

What is the verdict on Fox as a player so far?

Is he that good of a player to allocate about 30% of the salary cap on? Are Spurs owners willing to pay luxury tax?

Thaddy wrote:The Spurs shouldn't have traded for Fox. He isn't a very good player. The Kings looked better without him.


Looks like he regressed this year, but obviously still a big talent based on previous seasons. Maybe he will look better again with the Spurs, but yeah I also wonder about the fit.

He was never a great outside shooter, and the Spurs are already a sub par 3pt-shooting team.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#171 » by baldur » Mon Feb 3, 2025 10:31 am

so will chicago tank or they can actually try to make the playoffs as they have their pick back.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#172 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Feb 3, 2025 10:31 am

WestGOAT wrote:What is the verdict on Fox as a player so far?

Is he that good of a player to allocate about 30% of the salary cap on? Are Spurs owners willing to pay luxury tax?

Thaddy wrote:The Spurs shouldn't have traded for Fox. He isn't a very good player. The Kings looked better without him.


Looks like he regressed this year, but obviously still a big talent based on previous seasons. Maybe he will look better again with the Spurs, but yeah I also wonder about the fit.

He was never a great outside shooter, and the Spurs are already a sub par 3pt-shooting team.



No to both, in my opinion. Then again, maybe he'll play better with Wemby than he did with Sabonis. Guy stayed missed clutch free throws, so I remain skeptical.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#173 » by ILC » Mon Feb 3, 2025 10:36 am

Just an awful, awful trade for the Kings.

First thing when they call I demand Castle. Untouchable? Fine, Fox stays until the summer. There will be more teams in the summer capable financially of making a trade work, there will be teams disappointed with their postseason trying to make a change. Where are you rushing ffs?

Then you don't get Sochan at least, Keldon at least? You want loser Lavine? You don't get any of the ATL picks?

Really bad IMO. You gift them a really good player for no players or picks of consequence in return AND leave them with a ton of assets to pair Fox and Wemby with another star when he becomes available. Have to do it every time.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#174 » by PlatinumState » Mon Feb 3, 2025 10:54 am

Im glad those two finally got traded. I feel like I've been reading about Lavine trade rumors the past 3 years and Fox was going nowhere with Sactown
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#175 » by eric365 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 11:14 am

Thaddy wrote:The Spurs shouldn't have traded for Fox. He isn't a very good player. The Kings looked better without him.


Even if it doesn’t work, Fox will be a great asset in a trade for a better star
We got him for basically nothing, you have to take it
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#176 » by firedavidkahn » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:12 pm

Fox and Wemby are going to be such a good pair.

Next year I could easily see the Spurs ending up a top 2 seed if Wemby and the other youngsters continue to progress.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#177 » by facothomas22 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:18 pm

The fact that the Spurs didn't have to give up any of the Hawks picks or Devin Vassell is quite surprising. The Bulls got basically nothing back for Zach Lavine. Are star level players just not as valuable as they used to be?
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#178 » by Blame Rasho » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:45 pm

I just wanna go on record that I am not a Fox fan given that he isn’t a good enough playmaker and a mediocre three point shooter but given that the Spurs gave up, it is something I am okay with. I just wonder the value of that 2031 minny pick.
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#179 » by brackdan70 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 1:12 pm

Jeremy Lin 7 wrote:Kings for 3 1st round picks for Fox while Mavs got 1 for Luka :lol:

Nico Harrison in shambles

TBF, AD is quite a bit of a better trade piece than Zach Lavine
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Re: [SHAMS] De'Aaron Fox traded to Spurs, Zach Lavine to Kings 

Post#180 » by Blame Rasho » Mon Feb 3, 2025 1:16 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
Jeremy Lin 7 wrote:Kings for 3 1st round picks for Fox while Mavs got 1 for Luka :lol:

Nico Harrison in shambles

TBF, AD is quite a bit of a better trade piece than Zach Lavine


Have you seen the Mavs draft pick situation? They should have demanded more than just 1 pick.

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