Holy Mother of... Luka to Lakers, AD to Dallas

[brownbobcat]

I want the mavs to win just to make the gm look like a genius because right now he looks like a moron. I feel bad for him. Also feel bad for mavs fans. Reminds me of when we traded Carter.

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

The trade sucked ass, but Vince never became better than a 2nd banana after that. They could have drafted a replacement in Danny Granger

[Kingsway_fan]

I want the mavs to win just to make the gm look like a genius because right now he looks like a moron. I feel bad for him. Also feel bad for mavs fans. Reminds me of when we traded Carter.

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

The trade sucked ass, but Vince never became better than a 2nd banana after that. They could have drafted a replacement in Danny Granger

Clown post...

[Thaddy]

The Mavs line up is actually pretty good if you disregard them trading a top 5 player that isn't even in his prime.

Lively / Gafford
Davis
Washington
Thompson / Christie
Irving / Dinwiddie

They also have a pick they can sell for a forward. This is a type of deal I would look to sell Boucher in.

[Drygon]

I want the mavs to win just to make the gm look like a genius because right now he looks like a moron. I feel bad for him. Also feel bad for mavs fans. Reminds me of when we traded Carter.

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

Vince never tanked his trade value, it's a complete nonsense narrative from your side. You also ignoring Vince pulled back his trade request and he also got shipped out of Raptors against his own will by Rob Babcack. Any examples of what Vince did act like an unprofessional?

Luka is definitely a far superior player than Prime Vince without a doubt. But Mavs also got a way better return in Anthony Davis who's a borderline MVP level player. As of right now, Lakers have no centers and Mavs have a better squad for this year and next season.

Meanwhile, Rob Babcock didn't got anything of value in return for trading away Vince Carter (against his own will nonetheless). He is a big reason why Raptors set back for years until Masai Uriji came.

[Drygon]

I want the mavs to win just to make the gm look like a genius because right now he looks like a moron. I feel bad for him. Also feel bad for mavs fans. Reminds me of when we traded Carter.

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

The trade sucked ass, but Vince never became better than a 2nd banana after that. They could have drafted a replacement in Danny Granger

Prime Vince was arguably Nets' best player as their 1st option. And Danny Granger was never good enough to fill out the vaccum Vince left at Raptors, given the fact he was just 1x All-Star.

Man, you are either trolling or just straight up never watched the NBA from 2000s. Your credibility is in the mud.

[HiJiNX]

Probably the worst trade of all time.

[Jstock12]

Dallas had spent a lot of time building a roster suitable to Luka, then he asks out? Never cater to players.

He didnt ask out.

[Madvillainy2004]

OKC would've given Chet + like 8-9 first round picks to get this done lmao literally would never watch basketball again if the Raptors did something like this. Vince was a big tier below Luka and he at least created a toxic environment and tanked his value lmao Luka wanted to be there.

[Madvillainy2004]

This reeks of malpractice or ownership just being flat out cheap.

I'm not saying giving Luka 300 ms is not expensive. But you gotta think his marketability more than makes up for it lmao like he definitely brings in more than 60 million in revenue.

[CoinTossRoss31]

I want the mavs to win just to make the gm look like a genius because right now he looks like a moron. I feel bad for him. Also feel bad for mavs fans. Reminds me of when we traded Carter.

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

Vince never tanked his trade value, it's a complete nonsense narrative from your side. You also ignoring Vince pulled back his trade request and he also got shipped out of Raptors against his own will by Rob Babcack. Any examples of what Vince did act like an unprofessional?

Luka is definitely a far superior player than Prime Vince without a doubt. But Mavs also got a way better return in Anthony Davis who's a borderline MVP level player. As of right now, Lakers have no centers and Mavs have a better squad for this year and next season.

Meanwhile, Rob Babcock didn't got anything of value in return for trading away Vince Carter (against his own will nonetheless). He is a big reason why Raptors set back for years until Masai Uriji came.

Okay there Vince homer.

Let's just pretend like he didn't come out and say that he didn't want to dunk anymore in his final days as a raptor.

[traps#10]

Nico: We want to trade Luka to you for AD and…

Pelinka: ummmmm sure… and for Lebron I’m assuming?

Nico: No, AD, Max and 1 first round pick

Pelinka: huh? That’s all? [pause] can I put you on hold for a sec Nico?

Nico: Okay

[Pelinka laughing and jumping for joy before popping a champagne bottle]

Nico: Hello?

[Pelinka partying at the club]

Nico: You still there?

Pelinka: Oh sorry Nico. Yes, we accept your terms.

[Naysorn]

There’s something deeper to all of this

I think Nico is the scapegoat, but this was an under-the-table deal made by billionaires

[traps#10]

There’s something deeper to all of this

I think Nico is the scapegoat, but this was an under-the-table deal made by billionaires

Just odd that LA gets all the stars from baseball to basketball. American sports leagues know how to attract the Asian and world market and that’s to bring the biggest stars to LA. K-pop groups are flocking to the Lakers name which is weird, trying to replicate the Taylor Swift affect with K-pop fans.

[brownbobcat]

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

The trade sucked ass, but Vince never became better than a 2nd banana after that. They could have drafted a replacement in Danny Granger

Prime Vince was arguably Nets' best player as their 1st option. And Danny Granger was never good enough to fill out the vaccum Vince left at Raptors, given the fact he was just 1x All-Star.

Man, you are either trolling or just straight up never watched the NBA from 2000s. Your credibility is in the mud.

Obviously you are a VC stan, but even Mama Carter knew Kidd was the engine of that entire team. Was Vince still a very good player? Of course, but 2nd banana all the way. He was a 1st option like Siakam was a 1st option post-championship.

[brownbobcat]

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

Vince never tanked his trade value, it's a complete nonsense narrative from your side. You also ignoring Vince pulled back his trade request and he also got shipped out of Raptors against his own will by Rob Babcack. Any examples of what Vince did act like an unprofessional?

Luka is definitely a far superior player than Prime Vince without a doubt. But Mavs also got a way better return in Anthony Davis who's a borderline MVP level player. As of right now, Lakers have no centers and Mavs have a better squad for this year and next season.

Meanwhile, Rob Babcock didn't got anything of value in return for trading away Vince Carter (against his own will nonetheless). He is a big reason why Raptors set back for years until Masai Uriji came.

Okay there Vince homer.

Let's just pretend like he didn't come out and say that he didn't want to dunk anymore in his final days as a raptor.

Or that he later said he didn't try as hard as he could have in Toronto.
Or, you know, playing like ass on the court before the trade and suddenly looking good in NJ.

[TheGeneral99]

I want the mavs to win just to make the gm look like a genius because right now he looks like a moron. I feel bad for him. Also feel bad for mavs fans. Reminds me of when we traded Carter.

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

Vince never tanked his trade value, it's a complete nonsense narrative from your side. You also ignoring Vince pulled back his trade request and he also got shipped out of Raptors against his own will by Rob Babcack. Any examples of what Vince did act like an unprofessional?

Luka is definitely a far superior player than Prime Vince without a doubt. But Mavs also got a way better return in Anthony Davis who's a borderline MVP level player. As of right now, Lakers have no centers and Mavs have a better squad for this year and next season.

Meanwhile, Rob Babcock didn't got anything of value in return for trading away Vince Carter (against his own will nonetheless). He is a big reason why Raptors set back for years until Masai Uriji came.

Yeah he never tanked his trade value, he just averaged career lows in every statistical category and then proceeded to average career highs in every statistical category with the Nets.

[Drygon]

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

Vince never tanked his trade value, it's a complete nonsense narrative from your side. You also ignoring Vince pulled back his trade request and he also got shipped out of Raptors against his own will by Rob Babcack. Any examples of what Vince did act like an unprofessional?

Luka is definitely a far superior player than Prime Vince without a doubt. But Mavs also got a way better return in Anthony Davis who's a borderline MVP level player. As of right now, Lakers have no centers and Mavs have a better squad for this year and next season.

Meanwhile, Rob Babcock didn't got anything of value in return for trading away Vince Carter (against his own will nonetheless). He is a big reason why Raptors set back for years until Masai Uriji came.

Okay there Vince homer.

Let's just pretend like he didn't come out and say that he didn't want to dunk anymore in his final days as a raptor.

Watch on YouTube

;t
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/vc-dont-wanna-dunk-anymore/

I'm rather a Vince homer than a bitter and completely ignorant hater to remember obvious facts.

Vince dunked in the very next game (Wizards on the road) after he said it. Hell, Vince made several dunks in practice just before that interview happened. Vince gave a sarcastic answer to a stupid question.

You should educate yourself of the circumstances during Vince's last Raptors season instead of blindly trust hit-pieces on VC.

The trade sucked ass, but Vince never became better than a 2nd banana after that. They could have drafted a replacement in Danny Granger

Prime Vince was arguably Nets' best player as their 1st option. And Danny Granger was never good enough to fill out the vaccum Vince left at Raptors, given the fact he was just 1x All-Star.

Man, you are either trolling or just straight up never watched the NBA from 2000s. Your credibility is in the mud.

Obviously you are a VC stan, but even Mama Carter knew Kidd was the engine of that entire team. Was Vince still a very good player? Of course, but 2nd banana all the way. He was a 1st option like Siakam was a 1st option post-championship.

Jason Kidd was already past his prime after doing microfracture surgery and the Nets had 9-16 record (including 9 straight losses) by the time Vince got traded there. So much for being 'the engine of that entire team' lol.

It was an absolute miracle Nets even reached the playoffs as 8th seed, largely thanks to Vince.

Vince never tanked his trade value, it's a complete nonsense narrative from your side. You also ignoring Vince pulled back his trade request and he also got shipped out of Raptors against his own will by Rob Babcack. Any examples of what Vince did act like an unprofessional?

Luka is definitely a far superior player than Prime Vince without a doubt. But Mavs also got a way better return in Anthony Davis who's a borderline MVP level player. As of right now, Lakers have no centers and Mavs have a better squad for this year and next season.

Meanwhile, Rob Babcock didn't got anything of value in return for trading away Vince Carter (against his own will nonetheless). He is a big reason why Raptors set back for years until Masai Uriji came.

Okay there Vince homer.

Let's just pretend like he didn't come out and say that he didn't want to dunk anymore in his final days as a raptor.

Or that he later said he didn't try as hard as he could have in Toronto.
Or, you know, playing like ass on the court before the trade and suddenly looking good in NJ.

It was completely taken out of context, but I assume you never watched that interview. Vince basically said injuries & hardships taught him that he wasn't forever gonna be an amazing athlete. He realized that it require much more to be successful & stay in NBA on many, many years. (Spoiler alert: Vince became an Iron and played 22 NBA seasons).

Here's the full exchange...

John Thompson: "Do you think Vince Carter has pushed himself as hard as he should have pushed himself?"

Vince Carter: "In years past, no. I was just fortunate enough to have the talent. You know, you get spoiled when you're able to do a lot of things and you see that, and you really don't have to work at it. But now, I think with all the injuries and the things that have gone on, I have to work a little harder and I'm a little hungrier."

This is WAY WORSE.

Carter demanded a trade, had had bad injury issues and deliberately tanked his trade value, acted like an unprofessional prick.

Luka has been an MVP candidate every year, just led Dallas to the finals, and had no desire to leave.

Moreover, Luka is just way better than prime VC. I'd say prime VC is more similar to a Ja Morant whereas Luka would be more similar to Kobe, KG or Duncan.

Vince never tanked his trade value, it's a complete nonsense narrative from your side. You also ignoring Vince pulled back his trade request and he also got shipped out of Raptors against his own will by Rob Babcack. Any examples of what Vince did act like an unprofessional?

Luka is definitely a far superior player than Prime Vince without a doubt. But Mavs also got a way better return in Anthony Davis who's a borderline MVP level player. As of right now, Lakers have no centers and Mavs have a better squad for this year and next season.

Meanwhile, Rob Babcock didn't got anything of value in return for trading away Vince Carter (against his own will nonetheless). He is a big reason why Raptors set back for years until Masai Uriji came.

Yeah he never tanked his trade value, he just averaged career lows in every statistical category and then proceeded to average career highs in every statistical category with the Nets.

Vince was in a bad form during his final 20 games for Raptors. He still sucked ass even post Nets trade in the beginning.

First ten games with the Nets: 41 minutes, 20.9/6.3/3.7 on 49.8% TS
Per 36: 18.2/5.5/3.2

With the Raptors: 30 minutes, 15.9/3.3/3.1 on 47.5% TS
Per 36: 18.8/3.9/3.6

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[grimlock]

OKC would've given Chet + like 8-9 first round picks to get this done lmao literally would never watch basketball again if the Raptors did something like this. Vince was a big tier below Luka and he at least created a toxic environment and tanked his value lmao Luka wanted to be there.

Mavericks and NBA made a deal. Like you said, there are so many teams that could have offered more.
NBA needs LA to be viable, and on their current path they were set for 4-5 years of rebuilding after Lebron left. This guarantees the knicks and LA markets are competitive for the next 3-4 years.
Don't be surprised if the Mavs MAGICALLY. get a top 3 pick this year..

[TheGeneral99]

The Mavs line up is actually pretty good if you disregard them trading a top 5 player that isn't even in his prime.

Lively / Gafford
Davis
Washington
Thompson / Christie
Irving / Dinwiddie

They also have a pick they can sell for a forward. This is a type of deal I would look to sell Boucher in.

The issues are that Kyrie and AD are both above the age of 30 with injury issues.

Also it's not like Kyrie or AD are great leaders.

A good team, but would be shocked if they made it past the 2nd round. In my opinion they are likely a 1st round exit to be honest.