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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread 

Post#481 » by ThePigeon » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:30 am

Fierce1 wrote:If you don't really think about it and just be casual about JT's mindset, you're going to come to the conclusion that he's crazy chucking all those 3s.

But if you analyze it deeper, it's looking like JT wants to get comfortable with the 3pt shot.

Who shoots better under pressure in the playoffs and finals will win the championship.

We already saw this in 2022 when JT scored 46 points and went 7-15 from 3pt land to force a Game 7 against the Bucks.

#5 seed Dallas had no business beating #1 OKC in the west semis last season.
But SGA and OKC didn't shoot as well in the playoffs compared to the regular season.

That's why I think JT deserves the benefit of the doubt because he's doing something that he knows will pay off in the postseason.


Agreed - if it will help
I don't see any improvement in the 3pt FG% over the season

Hope you are right because his 3pt shot selection is bad

I hope he will see more of Carl Malone, Adrian Dantley (DET years) and even Kevin McHale videos. I think it will be better for him to get the ball on the block more than a couple of times a game, mainly because he is frequently being guarded by a smaller defender because of his tendency to get the ball on the half court line and dribble to death

What I am saying is - he got so much potential and we are seeing about 60% of it because of his tendencies
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Post#482 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:41 am

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Fierce1 wrote:If you don't really think about it and just be casual about JT's mindset, you're going to come to the conclusion that he's crazy chucking all those 3s.

But if you analyze it deeper, it's looking like JT wants to get comfortable with the 3pt shot.

Who shoots better under pressure in the playoffs and finals will win the championship.

We already saw this in 2022 when JT scored 46 points and went 7-15 from 3pt land to force a Game 7 against the Bucks.

#5 seed Dallas had no business beating #1 OKC in the west semis last season.
But SGA and OKC didn't shoot as well in the playoffs compared to the regular season.

That's why I think JT deserves the benefit of the doubt because he's doing something that he knows will pay off in the postseason.


Agreed - if it will help
I don't see any improvement in the 3pt FG% over the season

Hope you are right because his 3pt shot selection is bad

I hope he will see more of Carl Malone, Adrian Dantley (DET years) and even Kevin McHale videos. I think it will be better for him to get the ball on the block more than a couple of times a game, mainly because he is frequently being guarded by a smaller defender because of his tendency to get the ball on the half court line and dribble to death

What I am saying is - he got so much potential and we are seeing about 60% of it because of his tendencies

Agree!

No doubt his 3pt shot selection is bad.

If we don't see better shot selection and efficiency within the next 2 seasons then it is what it is.

But I think he's far from being a finished product.

Time will tell.
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Post#483 » by ryan in Maine » Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:06 pm

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48.1 Jan 2
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Did our franchise guy forget how to shoot in 9 out of 14 games this month lol?
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Post#484 » by ryan in Maine » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:15 pm

48.1 Jan 2
36.8
41.2
47.8
38.5
46.7
33.3
57.1
33.3
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40.9
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Make that 10 out of 15 games this month (66% of games played). That's a lot for a franchise guy. He's shooting 37% in these games. He's shooting 48% over the other 5 games.

Is JT wrist hurt again or something?
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Post#485 » by Bar Fight » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:32 pm

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Post#486 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:53 am

Guess to some it's all about shooting %.

I checked and I was surprised to see that Tatum is leading the team in points per game, rebounds per game, assists per game, and steals per game.

Production and impact is also part of the game.
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Post#487 » by ryan in Maine » Sat Feb 1, 2025 4:55 am

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Post#488 » by ThePigeon » Sat Feb 1, 2025 1:16 pm

JT has become a 3&? player

It is a shame, as he has the potential to be an MVP caliber player
Shot selection should be better, handling the ball should be better (the last couple of games he dribbles on his foot like he is JB) and he should be operating on the block a lot more. Djounte or Alvardo guarding him should result in him moving the ball and getting it on the block for a basket or a foul or both (same against CHI or any other team that elects to put a guard on him - just like JB powers the smaller players to the basket)
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread 

Post#489 » by Fierce1 » Sat Feb 1, 2025 3:13 pm

ThePigeon wrote:JT has become a 3&? player

It is a shame, as he has the potential to be an MVP caliber player
Shot selection should be better, handling the ball should be better (the last couple of games he dribbles on his foot like he is JB) and he should be operating on the block a lot more. Djounte or Alvardo guarding him should result in him moving the ball and getting it on the block for a basket or a foul or both (same against CHI or any other team that elects to put a guard on him - just like JB powers the smaller players to the basket)

I think JT knows that but he has another path in mind.

We will know for sure when he's at the peak of his prime at 30 years old.

Maybe, just maybe, JT wants diversity by not replicating what JB is doing.

One of their strengths is they have different styles of play.

Right now the Cs just need to survive the regular season and the MVP talk should take a back seat to a potential repeat.

The chance to repeat might not present itself again for another decade or longer.

So even if JT is not yet at his full potential, what's important is he impacts the game.

JT is leading the team in points per game, rebs per game, assts per game, and steals per game.

That shows he's a great all around player.
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Post#490 » by 31to6 » Sat Feb 1, 2025 3:39 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:JT has become a 3&? player

It is a shame, as he has the potential to be an MVP caliber player
Shot selection should be better, handling the ball should be better (the last couple of games he dribbles on his foot like he is JB) and he should be operating on the block a lot more. Djounte or Alvardo guarding him should result in him moving the ball and getting it on the block for a basket or a foul or both (same against CHI or any other team that elects to put a guard on him - just like JB powers the smaller players to the basket)

I think JT knows that but he has another path in mind.

We will know for sure when he's at the peak of his prime at 30 years old.

Maybe, just maybe, JT wants diversity by not replicating what JB is doing.

One of their strengths is they have different styles of play.

Right now the Cs just need to survive the regular season and the MVP talk should take a back seat to a potential repeat.

The chance to repeat might not present itself again for another decade or longer.

So even if JT is not yet at his full potential, what's important is he impacts the game.

JT is leading the team in points per game, rebs per game, assts per game, and steals per game.

That shows he's a great all around player.


He had one meaty post-and-score at the rim against NO, got me briefly excited, but what I keep wondering is if JT is going to end up more like a 6’9” Rondo-style player than the 6’9” Paul Pierce-style player we all expected.

JB is more like PP, so far.
Tatum is really becoming something else, and possibly complimentary.
(Plus he’s chucking a ton of lazy 3s all regular season but that’s mostly whatever as long as he drives the ball consistently in the playoffs again)
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Post#491 » by bisme37 » Sat Feb 1, 2025 5:09 pm

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Tatum has now hit two last-second game-winners this season, the most in the NBA – adding to his resume as one of the top closers in the game.

Since the 2019-20 season, Tatum has hit eight game-winning shots in the last five seconds of a game (regular season & Playoffs)

His eight game-winners in the final five seconds are the most by any player in that span, followed by Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (6), Luka Dončić (5) and Ja Morant (5)


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Post#492 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:02 pm

Undisputed Fact: Rudy Gay has twice as many buzzer beaters as Jayson Tatum.
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Post#493 » by 31to6 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:26 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Undisputed Fact: Rudy Gay has twice as many buzzer beaters as Jayson Tatum.


goodness, do you think anyone, like, noticed??
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Post#494 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Feb 4, 2025 12:11 pm

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Post#495 » by Bar Fight » Tue Feb 4, 2025 8:00 pm

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:lol: Thumbnail from a game where he scored 16 points on 53% TS in a blowout loss
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Post#496 » by ryan in Maine » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:33 am

48.1 Jan 2
36.8
41.2
47.8
38.5
46.7
33.3
57.1
33.3
45
40.9
41.7
36.4
35.7
33.3
47.6 Jan 31

65 Feb 2
30.4
41.7 Feb 6

I mean, this really, really has to stop. JT has only shot well in back to back games once in 2025 -- Jan 31 and Feb 2.

Shot poorly in 10 of 16 games in January. Shooting poorly in 2 of 3 games so far this first week in February.

JT is 45% from the field 35% from deep 80% stripe
JB is 46% from the field 32% from deep 74% stripe

What the f, guys? Are you literally not practicing?
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Post#497 » by fallguy » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:50 am

ryan in Maine wrote:48.1 Jan 2
36.8
41.2
47.8
38.5
46.7
33.3
57.1
33.3
45
40.9
41.7
36.4
35.7
33.3
47.6 Jan 31

65 Feb 2
30.4
41.7 Feb 6

I mean, this really, really has to stop. JT has only shot well in back to back games once in 2025 -- Jan 31 and Feb 2.

Shot poorly in 10 of 16 games in January. Shooting poorly in 2 of 3 games so far this first week in February.

JT is 45% from the field 35% from deep 80% stripe
JB is 46% from the field 32% from deep 74% stripe

What the f, guys? Are you literally not practicing?


Not that complicated really.

They both take too many bad shots, which their coach loves and encourages. JB is a mediocre shooter to begin with so it's not a shock if he shoots poorly. JT is now shooting below league-average on threes for the third season in the last four – while jacking up evermore.
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Post#498 » by Bar Fight » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:56 am

Just gotta come to terms with the fact that he isn’t a great/efficient scorer. His big scoring nights rely on him hitting shots he normally misses at a high clip.
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Post#499 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Feb 9, 2025 6:00 am

Jayson Tatum has passed Jo Jo White & Dave Cowens to become the 9th alltime leading scorer in the history of the Boston Celtics

https://www.landofbasketball.com/all_time_leaders/celtics/points_total_career_rs.htm
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Post#500 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Feb 9, 2025 6:56 am

Cracked top 10 in franchise scoring before turning 27. On pace to surpass Hondo as the Celtics #1 scorer all-time if he gets to 18+ seasons with the Cs.
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