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Re: OG Anunoby injury updates 

Post#121 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:38 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:The most important thing here is that OG definitely does not have a ‘sprained foot’.

He hasn’t taken an MRI. We don’t know the results yet. Most likely will be much worse than a sprained foot.


Knicks are always very hush hush on injuries especially during trade deadline. I think last year we were waiting on what was happening with OG. Then the trade deadline passed and a report game out about how long he was going to be out after that.
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Re: OG Anunoby injury updates 

Post#122 » by Gravy » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:42 pm

The Rockets have a starter out, their #3 pick has a broken hand and Sengun has an injury too. Yet nobody is saying Ime is injuring all his players, why is that? :dontknow:
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Re: OG Anunoby injury updates 

Post#123 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:44 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
spree8 wrote:Thibs Critics: “Guy runs players into the ground his whole career causing injuries, and he’s doing it again right now”

*injury happens*

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so, in the interest of a non-trolling conversation like i said in my post that you just liked and before you continued to troll post...

is there a way to have this conversation without it only looking like this?

i'd like to hone in a bit on "injury happens."

i recall seeing OG kind of shuffle his feet. (body and foot kind of temporarily moving in opposite directions.) i've actually done the same move and experienced a similar injury playing. OG can be a bit awkward and indecisive. none of us know anything yet, but it seems so far the sprain may not be as extreme an injury as originally feared. amen.

i don't understand the certainty of the injury being minutes related. as a thibs fan, that's the big part that i struggle with for his detractors.

total minutes: if the total minutes are too high today, then we'd reach this minutes total in a matter of games under a per game minutes that thibs critics find appropriate. so, he'd experience the injury later this month instead? not being spicy here. the logic genuinely escapes me.

i then try to reconcile that against the many similar injuries not only our team has not experienced, but that young teams with tighter minutes management have experienced. the lack of evidence of difference in health based on minutes and games played takes a lot away from this argument for me.

being gassed late in games and being able to keep up intensity is another completely undestandable conversation. same with being in games that are already won. that last one i be in here yelling right next to the MPs.

for a moment, before anyone knew anything, OG being hurt became a celebratory validation of belabored points. hard to see some of that as genuine.

looking forward to more insights on OG's health and timeline. not a continuation of the incessant thibs war.

I think Thibs has done an excellent job overall since joining the Knicks, and that he'll be remembered as one of the franchise's most relevant figures in this century.

I don't think any of us will ever have irrefutable evidence that OG's injury was or wasn't minutes-related.

However, I think it is at the very least plausible that it was.

OG's one of the most brittle players in the NBA, yet he ranks in the top 10 in minutes per game. That he suffered a non-contact injury doesn't seem purely coincidental to me. I don't think it came from nowhere or from sheer bad luck.

The discourse sometimes tilts too far in the extremes but I think it's fair to point out that Thibs has been unwise on various occasions when it comes to leaving his players for too long on the court. OG should never be in the top 10 in the NBA in minutes per game. His career has taught us that he cannot be trusted to carry a heavy load and stay healthy. And whether or not this outcome i.e. the injury was directly caused by the total minutes he has played, I don't think the process is right to begin with.





It's just unreal that we have to say these things after last season. I mean just going back to when OG got here, he played 14 games then was out a month and a half comes back a little too soon and misses 9 more games before finally coming back before the playoffs. He then has a non-contact hamstring injury in the playoffs, and even with all that we still have people questioning whether or not playing him that much is a good idea. If a guy is injury prone you do not decide now's the time to play him career high in minutes, he couldn't handle 36mpg when he was 24, why would he be able to handle it now at 28.


Before he was traded to us, he was averaging 33.3mpg with the Raptors that season, he played 27 of 31 games. We got him, ramped his minutes up, especially over a three-game stretch where he averaged 43mpg before someone finally stepped in and clearly talked to Tom, but he got hurt shortly after. He's had two different non contact injuries with us now, he's top 5 in total minutes on the season and total distance covered. This isn't a celebration or trolling; it's literally just the most likely outcome of playing him so much.
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Re: OG Anunoby injury updates 

Post#124 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:03 pm

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Post#125 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:33 pm

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Re: OG Anunoby injury updates 

Post#126 » by spree8 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:57 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
so, in the interest of a non-trolling conversation like i said in my post that you just liked and before you continued to troll post...

is there a way to have this conversation without it only looking like this?

i'd like to hone in a bit on "injury happens."

i recall seeing OG kind of shuffle his feet. (body and foot kind of temporarily moving in opposite directions.) i've actually done the same move and experienced a similar injury playing. OG can be a bit awkward and indecisive. none of us know anything yet, but it seems so far the sprain may not be as extreme an injury as originally feared. amen.

i don't understand the certainty of the injury being minutes related. as a thibs fan, that's the big part that i struggle with for his detractors.

total minutes: if the total minutes are too high today, then we'd reach this minutes total in a matter of games under a per game minutes that thibs critics find appropriate. so, he'd experience the injury later this month instead? not being spicy here. the logic genuinely escapes me.

i then try to reconcile that against the many similar injuries not only our team has not experienced, but that young teams with tighter minutes management have experienced. the lack of evidence of difference in health based on minutes and games played takes a lot away from this argument for me.

being gassed late in games and being able to keep up intensity is another completely undestandable conversation. same with being in games that are already won. that last one i be in here yelling right next to the MPs.

for a moment, before anyone knew anything, OG being hurt became a celebratory validation of belabored points. hard to see some of that as genuine.

looking forward to more insights on OG's health and timeline. not a continuation of the incessant thibs war.

I think Thibs has done an excellent job overall since joining the Knicks, and that he'll be remembered as one of the franchise's most relevant figures in this century.

I don't think any of us will ever have irrefutable evidence that OG's injury was or wasn't minutes-related.

However, I think it is at the very least plausible that it was.

OG's one of the most brittle players in the NBA, yet he ranks in the top 10 in minutes per game. That he suffered a non-contact injury doesn't seem purely coincidental to me. I don't think it came from nowhere or from sheer bad luck.

The discourse sometimes tilts too far in the extremes but I think it's fair to point out that Thibs has been unwise on various occasions when it comes to leaving his players for too long on the court. OG should never be in the top 10 in the NBA in minutes per game. His career has taught us that he cannot be trusted to carry a heavy load and stay healthy. And whether or not this outcome i.e. the injury was directly caused by the total minutes he has played, I don't think the process is right to begin with.





It's just unreal that we have to say these things after last season. I mean just going back to when OG got here, he played 14 games then was out a month and a half comes back a little too soon and misses 9 more games before finally coming back before the playoffs. He then has a non-contact hamstring injury in the playoffs, and even with all that we still have people questioning whether or not playing him that much is a good idea. If a guy is injury prone you do not decide now's the time to play him career high in minutes, he couldn't handle 36mpg when he was 24, why would he be able to handle it now at 28.


Before he was traded to us, he was averaging 33.3mpg with the Raptors that season, he played 27 of 31 games. We got him, ramped his minutes up, especially over a three-game stretch where he averaged 43mpg before someone finally stepped in and clearly talked to Tom, but he got hurt shortly after. He's had two different non contact injuries with us now, he's top 5 in total minutes on the season and total distance covered. This isn't a celebration or trolling; it's literally just the most likely outcome of playing him so much.



Bingo.

The guy was playing 45-50 minutes every night (in Thibs psychotic 6-7 man rotations) for all but like 2 games in the playoffs and coincidentally ends up with a non contact hamstring injury.

This year the guy has played 39-40+ mins for almost half his games (in Thibs psychotic 8 man regular season rotation) and coincidentally gets another non contact injury.

At this point, the only thing plausible is the deniability for the supporters. I would think fans would want what’s best for the team.
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Re: OG Anunoby injury updates 

Post#127 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:58 pm

OG won't be back until after April 15th

If then
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Post#128 » by Enzo954 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:02 pm

Gravy wrote:The Rockets have a starter out, their #3 pick has a broken hand and Sengun has an injury too. Yet nobody is saying Ime is injuring all his players, why is that? :dontknow:


Does that coach have an extensive history of accusations by players, fans and the media of minutes mismanagement?
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Post#129 » by Gravy » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:48 pm

Enzo954 wrote:
Gravy wrote:The Rockets have a starter out, their #3 pick has a broken hand and Sengun has an injury too. Yet nobody is saying Ime is injuring all his players, why is that? :dontknow:


Does that coach have an extensive history of accusations by players, fans and the media of minutes mismanagement?

This is only his third year as a head coach
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Post#130 » by Guano » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:02 pm

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robillionaire wrote:Very minor ankle sprain and might even play tomorrow. Bad news for wishing for achilles tear in order to be right on the Internet gang lol



Nobody wishes for this lol… you Thibs lovers are crazy!


speak for yourself!

i have been a fan of this team since i was a kid and only know heartache with a few rare moments of joy here and there. and instead of experiencing that crack again - i'd much rather be right on knicks realgm forum than taste that high again. I'm pissed as hell they're not amputating OG's leg :nonono:
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Post#131 » by ScienceOfLosing » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:13 pm

Everyone, clap your heals 3 times and repeat:
“Thibs will give minutes to Pacom.”

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Post#132 » by Guano » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:17 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
spree8 wrote:Thibs Critics: “Guy runs players into the ground his whole career causing injuries, and he’s doing it again right now”

*injury happens*

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Thibs Fanatics: “It’s not Tom’s fault stop celebrating! Stop posting gifs!!!!”
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so, in the interest of a non-trolling conversation like i said in my post that you just liked and before you continued to troll post...

is there a way to have this conversation without it only looking like this?

i'd like to hone in a bit on "injury happens."

i recall seeing OG kind of shuffle his feet. (body and foot kind of temporarily moving in opposite directions.) i've actually done the same move and experienced a similar injury playing. OG can be a bit awkward and indecisive. none of us know anything yet, but it seems so far the sprain may not be as extreme an injury as originally feared. amen.

i don't understand the certainty of the injury being minutes related. as a thibs fan, that's the big part that i struggle with for his detractors.

total minutes: if the total minutes are too high today, then we'd reach this minutes total in a matter of games under a per game minutes that thibs critics find appropriate. so, he'd experience the injury later this month instead? not being spicy here. the logic genuinely escapes me.

i then try to reconcile that against the many similar injuries not only our team has not experienced, but that young teams with tighter minutes management have experienced. the lack of evidence of difference in health based on minutes and games played takes a lot away from this argument for me.

being gassed late in games and being able to keep up intensity is another completely undestandable conversation. same with being in games that are already won. that last one i be in here yelling right next to the MPs.

for a moment, before anyone knew anything, OG being hurt became a celebratory validation of belabored points. hard to see some of that as genuine.

looking forward to more insights on OG's health and timeline. not a continuation of the incessant thibs war.

I think Thibs has done an excellent job overall since joining the Knicks, and that he'll be remembered as one of the franchise's most relevant figures in this century.

I don't think any of us will ever have irrefutable evidence that OG's injury was or wasn't minutes-related.

However, I think it is at the very least plausible that it was.

OG's one of the most brittle players in the NBA, yet he ranks in the top 10 in minutes per game. That he suffered a non-contact injury doesn't seem purely coincidental to me. I don't think it came from nowhere or from sheer bad luck.

The discourse sometimes tilts too far in the extremes but I think it's fair to point out that Thibs has been unwise on various occasions when it comes to leaving his players for too long on the court. OG should never be in the top 10 in the NBA in minutes per game. His career has taught us that he cannot be trusted to carry a heavy load and stay healthy. And whether or not this outcome i.e. the injury was directly caused by the total minutes he has played, I don't think the process is right to begin with.


and this is why I tend to blame rose more than thibs. thibs is going to thibs and og is brittle - provide the man a decent back up and level a mins restriction on these guys.
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Re: OG Anunoby injury updates 

Post#133 » by Guano » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:19 pm

Gravy wrote:The Rockets have a starter out, their #3 pick has a broken hand and Sengun has an injury too. Yet nobody is saying Ime is injuring all his players, why is that? :dontknow:


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Post#134 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:20 pm

Guano wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
so, in the interest of a non-trolling conversation like i said in my post that you just liked and before you continued to troll post...

is there a way to have this conversation without it only looking like this?

i'd like to hone in a bit on "injury happens."

i recall seeing OG kind of shuffle his feet. (body and foot kind of temporarily moving in opposite directions.) i've actually done the same move and experienced a similar injury playing. OG can be a bit awkward and indecisive. none of us know anything yet, but it seems so far the sprain may not be as extreme an injury as originally feared. amen.

i don't understand the certainty of the injury being minutes related. as a thibs fan, that's the big part that i struggle with for his detractors.

total minutes: if the total minutes are too high today, then we'd reach this minutes total in a matter of games under a per game minutes that thibs critics find appropriate. so, he'd experience the injury later this month instead? not being spicy here. the logic genuinely escapes me.

i then try to reconcile that against the many similar injuries not only our team has not experienced, but that young teams with tighter minutes management have experienced. the lack of evidence of difference in health based on minutes and games played takes a lot away from this argument for me.

being gassed late in games and being able to keep up intensity is another completely undestandable conversation. same with being in games that are already won. that last one i be in here yelling right next to the MPs.

for a moment, before anyone knew anything, OG being hurt became a celebratory validation of belabored points. hard to see some of that as genuine.

looking forward to more insights on OG's health and timeline. not a continuation of the incessant thibs war.

I think Thibs has done an excellent job overall since joining the Knicks, and that he'll be remembered as one of the franchise's most relevant figures in this century.

I don't think any of us will ever have irrefutable evidence that OG's injury was or wasn't minutes-related.

However, I think it is at the very least plausible that it was.

OG's one of the most brittle players in the NBA, yet he ranks in the top 10 in minutes per game. That he suffered a non-contact injury doesn't seem purely coincidental to me. I don't think it came from nowhere or from sheer bad luck.

The discourse sometimes tilts too far in the extremes but I think it's fair to point out that Thibs has been unwise on various occasions when it comes to leaving his players for too long on the court. OG should never be in the top 10 in the NBA in minutes per game. His career has taught us that he cannot be trusted to carry a heavy load and stay healthy. And whether or not this outcome i.e. the injury was directly caused by the total minutes he has played, I don't think the process is right to begin with.


and this is why I tend to blame rose more than thibs. thibs is going to thibs and og is brittle - provide the man a decent back up and level a mins restriction on these guys.

Yes agreed
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Post#135 » by Guano » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:21 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Guano wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:I think Thibs has done an excellent job overall since joining the Knicks, and that he'll be remembered as one of the franchise's most relevant figures in this century.

I don't think any of us will ever have irrefutable evidence that OG's injury was or wasn't minutes-related.

However, I think it is at the very least plausible that it was.

OG's one of the most brittle players in the NBA, yet he ranks in the top 10 in minutes per game. That he suffered a non-contact injury doesn't seem purely coincidental to me. I don't think it came from nowhere or from sheer bad luck.

The discourse sometimes tilts too far in the extremes but I think it's fair to point out that Thibs has been unwise on various occasions when it comes to leaving his players for too long on the court. OG should never be in the top 10 in the NBA in minutes per game. His career has taught us that he cannot be trusted to carry a heavy load and stay healthy. And whether or not this outcome i.e. the injury was directly caused by the total minutes he has played, I don't think the process is right to begin with.


and this is why I tend to blame rose more than thibs. thibs is going to thibs and og is brittle - provide the man a decent back up and level a mins restriction on these guys.

Yes agreed


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Post#136 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:41 pm

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and this is why I tend to blame rose more than thibs. thibs is going to thibs and og is brittle - provide the man a decent back up and level a mins restriction on these guys.

Yes agreed


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Post#137 » by Gravy » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:43 pm

Guano wrote:
Gravy wrote:The Rockets have a starter out, their #3 pick has a broken hand and Sengun has an injury too. Yet nobody is saying Ime is injuring all his players, why is that? :dontknow:


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Post#138 » by Guano » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:49 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
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Chanel Bomber wrote:Yes agreed


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that's giving the people what they want


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Post#139 » by Guano » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:53 pm

Gravy wrote:
Guano wrote:
Gravy wrote:The Rockets have a starter out, their #3 pick has a broken hand and Sengun has an injury too. Yet nobody is saying Ime is injuring all his players, why is that? :dontknow:


false equivalence
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Post#140 » by kNicksGmen » Mon Feb 3, 2025 9:00 pm

Gravy wrote:The Rockets have a starter out, their #3 pick has a broken hand and Sengun has an injury too. Yet nobody is saying Ime is injuring all his players, why is that? :dontknow:

those guys are averaging like 31 mins a game and are very very young. FVV is one of their only older rotation guys and he also only plays 31 mins, and he's only 30.

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