2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

[RoteSchroder]

Y’all need to start deciding who out of Noa, CMB or Rasheer do you like most?!

Because the dreams of Ace, VJ, Jak etc are dead lol

I keep telling you “with the 11th pick in the 2025 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors select…” and believe it or not, it might actually be worse.

But without a blatant commitment to the tank ie/ all vets traded and top players rested, we’re not sniffing top 5 without a miracle fluke into the top 4.

Between those 3, CMB. Reminds me of a shorter version of Randle, but with better passing and defense. He really needs to work on his perimeter skills to transition to SF.

Rasheer looks like a role player with not much star upside

Noa looks like a scrub

[UnderdogRaptors]

Teamtreadmill here

[Jstock12]

I really hope that you're right about him, but just to play the devil's advocate - his high FTr could also be related to his Barcelona background in Spain where the foul drawing is a bit of an art form... He hung around with the main Barcelona team as well where there were a few very experienced vets to show him the tricks... And also from an eye-test when watching him play, he does search for those fouls / baiting his opponents into it quite a bit.

Does it matter? Do you think that NBA refs are less susceptible to blowing the whistle? Are they going to say "You can't fool me with your Euroleague tactics! You got away with it in college but this is the NBA!" I don't think so, if it worked for him in college, it's only a matter of time before the NBA refs start blowing the whistle in his favor.

I think the point is many guys develop those skills later so he already has the tricks instead of the natural aggression to draw fouls so it doesn't project the same as it would for other prospects.

I understand the reasoning, I'm not sure if it will matter.

Yeah that was my point. Some guys are just so unstoppable they draw fouls with just their natural ability, whether its crazy handles or a lightning quick first step where the defender just has no other recourse. Maybe the foulbaiting will translate to the NBA, I don't know, but I feel like it's something that could serve as valuable context when interpreting those stats.

[Thaddy]

Asa Newell looks like Mobley to me. I have him ahead of Fleming, CMB, and Noa.

Poeltl / Newell
Barnes / Mogbo
Barrett / Walter
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Shead

10th seed team right there. Hopefully Jakobe, IQ, Gradey, or Barrett can become all star level.

[Psubs]

Id rather trade Dick than Walter. I think Walter will be better than him even though if Dick puts it together he can be a 20 pt scorer in the league plus his size etc.

I think you look at the possibility of getting Ingram without giving up any core pieces and sit him out then all of a sudden you have a top 5 pick potentially with Scottie and Ingram (assuming that pick is on par with Scottie) + some decent role players and all of a sudden you've accelerated your rebuild.

Dick has Reggie Miller that can dunk potential and Jakobe has Dejounte Murray potential. I want to keep both.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Of course we're going to not commit to tank in a 5-6 player draft.

Get ready for Ingram boys

Getting Ingram is committing to the tank in my opinion. You give up winning role players for a guy who could sit out the rest of the season. Literal addition by subtraction.

Dude's not that good of a player even when healthy.

The most I would offer are 2nds, Walter, Chomche. No starters, no 1sts. And Ingram/his agent needs to agree to a contract less than ~$35 M/year

Since none of that is realistic, especially the latter part, we likely lose the trade if we get Ingram under any circumstance.

I’m not giving them any young pieces for Ingram. They can take Bruce Brown to buy him out and whatever vets it takes to fill out the rest, but no young pieces or assets in general. This is all to preserve the tank and come into next season with BI + a top 5 pick + any free agent signings we make.

[Karanpal]

Just keep watching Jak highlights we drafting him

[Psubs]

Watch on YouTube

Made a couple really nice passes to start the break. Sergio looks at least as good as Topic did and can shoot the 3 better.

His 3 pt shot looks bad but he's accurate. Maybe he's Lonzo like prospect?

[Basketball_Jones]

Yeah no longer looking at the top 3-5 guys anymore lol. Would be okay with somebody like Newell. 4-5 guy that can rebound/block and spot up 3. Kind of prime Boucher type but strong. A guy like that can move Scottie down to the 3 and RJ to the 2 still. And spell minutes at the 5 as well.

[Dalek]

Yeah no longer looking at the top 3-5 guys anymore lol. Would be okay with somebody like Newell. 4-5 guy that can rebound/block and spot up 3. Kind of prime Boucher type but strong. A guy like that can move Scottie down to the 3 and RJ to the 2 still. And spell minutes at the 5 as well.

Interesting game to watch last week with Georgia vs South Carolina. Overall, Newell looked much thinner but quicker as a lob target. CMB looks heavier but he is a beast. Reminds me of Julius Randle with some care on defense.

Watch on YouTube

[ATLTimekeeper]

Does it matter? Do you think that NBA refs are less susceptible to blowing the whistle? Are they going to say "You can't fool me with your Euroleague tactics! You got away with it in college but this is the NBA!" I don't think so, if it worked for him in college, it's only a matter of time before the NBA refs start blowing the whistle in his favor.

I think the point is many guys develop those skills later so he already has the tricks instead of the natural aggression to draw fouls so it doesn't project the same as it would for other prospects.

I understand the reasoning, I'm not sure if it will matter.

Yeah that was my point. Some guys are just so unstoppable they draw fouls with just their natural ability, whether its crazy handles or a lightning quick first step where the defender just has no other recourse. Maybe the foulbaiting will translate to the NBA, I don't know, but I feel like it's something that could serve as valuable context when interpreting those stats.

I think Jak draws a lot of fouls with changes of speed. It's foul baiting, but so is just having a quick first step and throwing your body into a crowd. For what it's worth, I don't think learning tricks from pros is any different than learning them from trainers or AAU coaches or whatever. They're all the same tricks. Some people just have the ability to learn that skill and others don't.

[dagger]

Dick has Reggie Miller that can dunk potential and Jakobe has Dejounte Murray potential. I want to keep both.

Here's a thought in support of this.

There is growing buzz that the league is serious about curbing the insane volume of three point shots in many games. The theory emerging is that rather than move the line, the way to go is to get back to some limited hand checking by defenders. If that curbs the volume of three point shots, both Gradey and JeKobe have shown that they can burst off the line and score with pull ups or at the rim. They have more complete games, and providing they add the necessary strength, a crackdown on three point shooting will limit them a lot less than some others who shoot well from distance but aren't as well rounded.

[Landomar]

I did a quick check of the top 5 draft prospects, and my goodness has VJ Edgecombe been killing it lately. I've always been a big VJ believer, but this is the best he's ever looked. His BPM is up to 11.9, and the only red number he has on his advanced stats page is his personal fouls per 36 minutes. We'll probably win our way out of VJ range, but you never know.

[ArthurVandelay]

I did a quick check of the top 5 draft prospects, and my goodness has VJ Edgecombe been killing it lately. I've always been a big VJ believer, but this is the best he's ever looked. His BPM is up to 11.9, and the only red number he has on his advanced stats page is his personal fouls per 36 minutes. We'll probably win our way out of VJ range, but you never know.

When people were down on him early I said a couple of times don’t forget he was the best player for Bermuda during Olympic qualifiers

Yes it was only 5 games, but it was still an 18 year old playing with multiple nba players and the best player

He’s going to be good. Looking forward to finding out his measurements

[billy_hoyle]

I did a quick check of the top 5 draft prospects, and my goodness has VJ Edgecombe been killing it lately. I've always been a big VJ believer, but this is the best he's ever looked. His BPM is up to 11.9, and the only red number he has on his advanced stats page is his personal fouls per 36 minutes. We'll probably win our way out of VJ range, but you never know.

When people were down on him early I said a couple of times don’t forget he was the best player for Bermuda during Olympic qualifiers

Yes it was only 5 games, but it was still an 18 year old playing with multiple nba players and the best player

He’s going to be good. Looking forward to finding out his measurements

I think he's a good fit on our roster as a combo guard.
Play next to any of RJ, IQ, Dick in the back court IMO.

[ArthurVandelay]

I did a quick check of the top 5 draft prospects, and my goodness has VJ Edgecombe been killing it lately. I've always been a big VJ believer, but this is the best he's ever looked. His BPM is up to 11.9, and the only red number he has on his advanced stats page is his personal fouls per 36 minutes. We'll probably win our way out of VJ range, but you never know.

When people were down on him early I said a couple of times don’t forget he was the best player for Bermuda during Olympic qualifiers

Yes it was only 5 games, but it was still an 18 year old playing with multiple nba players and the best player

He’s going to be good. Looking forward to finding out his measurements

I think he's a good fit on our roster as a combo guard.
Play next to any of RJ, IQ, Dick in the back court IMO.

Right now I only have eyes for Ace

[DreamTeam09]

At worst we will finish 7th or 8th worst which easily could vault us into the top for with some lotto luck

[Jerry Lucas]

I did a quick check of the top 5 draft prospects, and my goodness has VJ Edgecombe been killing it lately. I've always been a big VJ believer, but this is the best he's ever looked. His BPM is up to 11.9, and the only red number he has on his advanced stats page is his personal fouls per 36 minutes. We'll probably win our way out of VJ range, but you never know.

When people were down on him early I said a couple of times don’t forget he was the best player for Bermuda during Olympic qualifiers

Yes it was only 5 games, but it was still an 18 year old playing with multiple nba players and the best player

He’s going to be good. Looking forward to finding out his measurements

The most generous measurements I've seen reported are 6'5" height with a 6'6" wingspan.

[LoveMyRaps]

Updated Mock Draft:

1. Flagg
2. Ace
3. Harper
4. Edgecombe
5. Maluach
6. Johnson
7. Kasp
8. Traore
9. Newell
10. Fears/CMB

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Kasp falling to us anywhere in the 5-7 range would be a God send