Should we throw in the towel?

[Bergmaniac]

I think we will probably have a strong run after ASB once players have gotten much needed rest, I don't think they have suddenly forgotten how to defend midway through the season, many are just exhausted now and Paolo is clealy nowhere near 100% yet. And we obviously don't have enough shooting, but we are not as bad as we have been lately at this aspect, at some point we are bound to get a spell where we shoot decently for a few weeks, which with our defence and the easy schedule will be enough to rack up some wins.

[AdamTheGreek]

No, Paolo and Franz need time to play back to normal form.

But Weltman can’t sit on his hands.

[JT3000]

Miss Fultz now?

He was better than Da Silva, Black or KCP

KCP is not better than Gary was last year.

We're also missing Ingles' iq

Last in pace and 29th in offensive rating

The team is basically one good offensive player, one high volume inefficient offensive player and a bunch of defenders.

We had more depth and continuity last year.

Yeah, Fultz is great... that's why he's still out of the league. The answer to all our problems lies in a player no team wants to sign.

[JF5]

Naw they'll win 44-46 games once they get their synergy back. They need the playoff experience.

[Skybox]

Miss Fultz now?

He was better than Da Silva, Black or KCP

KCP is not better than Gary was last year.

We're also missing Ingles' iq

Last in pace and 29th in offensive rating

The team is basically one good offensive player, one high volume inefficient offensive player and a bunch of defenders.

We had more depth and continuity last year.

and one ridiculous "fan"...Fultz was not better than any of them and we're not missing Ingles' inability to limp his way to 5 mpg...and I love Ingles, but this is buffoonery. We're missing a lot, but you're missing on most of it.

[MasterGMer]

I really do not think DeAaron Fox trade can fix anything except accelerating the timeline. I am not leaning towards being patient either. Actually and quite frankly, I really, as a fan, do not know what Magic's next move is. This team dealt with injuries all season and that is the reason why we are not top 4 or 5 in the Eastern Conference. But now Franz and Paolo are back and we are not supposed to stink like this. Actually this trade deadline is going to inform a lot of things. And I just can't wait.

[The-Stallion70]

Miss Fultz now?

He was better than Da Silva, Black or KCP

KCP is not better than Gary was last year.

We're also missing Ingles' iq

Last in pace and 29th in offensive rating

The team is basically one good offensive player, one high volume inefficient offensive player and a bunch of defenders.

We had more depth and continuity last year.

Yeah, Fultz is great... that's why he's still out of the league. The answer to all our problems lies in a player no team wants to sign.

They both brought things to the table that we don't have now if you cant see that then you're a simpleton

Not surprising as Fultz' name is a hot button on this forum

[The-Stallion70]

Miss Fultz now?

He was better than Da Silva, Black or KCP

KCP is not better than Gary was last year.

We're also missing Ingles' iq

Last in pace and 29th in offensive rating

The team is basically one good offensive player, one high volume inefficient offensive player and a bunch of defenders.

We had more depth and continuity last year.

and one ridiculous "fan"...Fultz was not better than any of them and we're not missing Ingles' inability to limp his way to 5 mpg...and I love Ingles, but this is buffoonery. We're missing a lot, but you're missing on most of it.

Care to enlighten me then? If you cant see that they brought things to the table that we are missing now then you dont know ball. You really think Black TDS and KCP are that much better? Build the argument then Mr. Slowpoke

[Max Power]

I don’t think we throw in the towel, we need health back more than anything. I think things improve naturally after Suggs is back and after the all star break. This team has played so well for two years, a bad streak was inevitable at some point.

With all that said, the team has been exposed, and our offense needs some obvious work so I think a deal is necessary, a point guard, a shooter and a reserve big are all needed pieces. I suspect we only maybe get two of the three at best with a trade. At this point Weltman needs to finish the job of making this a contending team so I bet he’s on a clock.

[JT3000]

Miss Fultz now?

He was better than Da Silva, Black or KCP

KCP is not better than Gary was last year.

We're also missing Ingles' iq

Last in pace and 29th in offensive rating

The team is basically one good offensive player, one high volume inefficient offensive player and a bunch of defenders.

We had more depth and continuity last year.

Yeah, Fultz is great... that's why he's still out of the league. The answer to all our problems lies in a player no team wants to sign.

They both brought things to the table that we don't have now if you cant see that then you're a simpleton

Not surprising as Fultz' name is a hot button on this forum

Yeah, myself, most other posters on this forum and literally every GM in the league are all just "simpletons" who should bow down to the indisputible wisdom of the all-knowing "The-Stallion70."

Give me a break.

[The-Stallion70]

Yeah, Fultz is great... that's why he's still out of the league. The answer to all our problems lies in a player no team wants to sign.

They both brought things to the table that we don't have now if you cant see that then you're a simpleton

Not surprising as Fultz' name is a hot button on this forum

Yeah, myself, most other posters on this forum and literally every GM in the league are all just "simpletons" who should bow down to the indisputible wisdom of the all-knowing "The-Stallion70."

Give me a break.

Fultz could create his own shot, Ingles could shoot it at over 40% from deep and had passing vision. They brought different things to the table that Da Silva, KCP and Black don't, they are all each just defenders.

Your turn there chum

[JT3000]

They both brought things to the table that we don't have now if you cant see that then you're a simpleton

Not surprising as Fultz' name is a hot button on this forum

Yeah, myself, most other posters on this forum and literally every GM in the league are all just "simpletons" who should bow down to the indisputible wisdom of the all-knowing "The-Stallion70."

Give me a break.

Fultz could create his own shot, Ingles could shoot it at over 40% from deep and had passing vision. They brought different things to the table that Da Silva, KCP and Black don't, they are all each just defenders.

Your turn there chum

Fultz could create his own broken shot. Funny how you conveniently left that part out. Ingles moves like a senior citizen. He's more suited for bingo than basketball.

[Last Guardian]

Its a tough spot to be in. You could be positive and say the Magic are just struggling and will figure it out. You could be negative and say the league has figured out how to play us, and even bad defensive teams make us struggle to score 100. Unfortunately I'm feeling negative and believing the latter.

[VFX]

Miss Fultz now?

He was better than Da Silva, Black or KCP

KCP is not better than Gary was last year.

We're also missing Ingles' iq

Last in pace and 29th in offensive rating

The team is basically one good offensive player, one high volume inefficient offensive player and a bunch of defenders.

We had more depth and continuity last year.

[msmoore66]

... so lets have a knee jerk thread. ....

Or we could not?

[Orlando Dawg]

This is like when the water recedes before the tsunami of greatness.
Remember this season is for Pat Williams.
We either win the championship or get the #1 draft pick.

[drsd]

No, Paolo and Franz need time to play back to normal form.

But Weltman can’t sit on his hands.

And-1

This is a classic, "Two things can be true at the same time!"

[Skybox]

No, Paolo and Franz need time to play back to normal form.

But Weltman can’t sit on his hands.

And-1

This is a classic, "Two things can be true at the same time!"

Right on, this is not a knee jerk thing…the needs have been the same since before the bungled draft 2 years ago when, on paper, we addressed them…just failed to do it successfully

[Magic_Johnny12]

The problem is that we are not one single trade away from contention or even being a significant first round threat.

And now Orlando is dealing from a position of weakness (which is my biggest gripe with upper management) so any trade we do now will be reactionary and likely end up as pressure trade/overpay on our part.

This started with their lazy and not well thought out offseason.

Resigning WCJ

Wasn't necessary, there was no real incentive and they handicapped themselves by the timing of the signing. Now he's ineligible to be traded this season and has played himself into a bad contract.

Signing KCP

Even after your franchise player publicly asked for a PG and not having one single true point guard on the team (still don’t).

Resigning JI

Resigning isn’t the issue, but using our cap space (where there were more glaring needs) to give him a bloated 1st year is still a head scratcher (the only real reason to do this is if you plan on using that to your advantage AKA trading him).

Resigning Gary Harris

LOL


What we’re seeing now is just the byproduct of a poor offseason. Nothing more.

This is a quote from Victor Webemyama after acquiring Fox:

"It just shows that they're not here to waste time and they're willing to take the next step on time. We’re moving forward. I think it’s a good step in the building of our future.”

This matters for players of stature, our front office has done a disservice to Paolo/Franz and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear rumblings about their displeasure.

[The Real Dalic]

The FO just did by deciding not doing anything at all, as usual. The same will happen in the offseason.