Luka AD trade thread Part II

[Castle Black]

Okay, I have a suggestion that the NBA needs to do.

If you want to trade a player - you have to send a notification to the league office to place him "ON THE BLOCK" officially, and he has to be there at least 6 hours until you can finalize a trade with the league office.

All NBA teams are updated with who is on the block for trade.


This puts an end to this shadowy secret corruption deal crap that the Lakers seem to continue to benefit from. Pau Gasol was done the same way, secret, no bids, etc.

It was so secretive that the Third Party involved didn’t even know they were helping facilitate a top-3 player in the world in this trade… Because Nico knew that Ainge would never help facilitate this deal if he knew he was gifting Luka to the Lakers. This is so bizarre and nefarious. Wreaks of collusion and foul play.

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[Mavrelous]

Luka Doncic has played the most minutes in the NBA last year, averagad 33/10/9 and led his team to the finals when he was projected to lose every single series, this was less than 8 months ago, not some distant past.
Luka Doncic also stuck by the team when they fumbled trades, draft and FA left and right, and left him with Dinwiddie, Bullock and JaVale McGee as starters.
He won enough credit to do whatever the **** he wants, eat whatever he wants and drink whatever he wants, Anthony Davis has tanked multiple Lakjers seasons with his injury.

[RB34]

Luka Doncic has played the most minutes in the NBA last year, averagad 33/10/9 and led his team to the finals when he was projected to lose every single series, this was less than 8 months ago, not some distant past.
Luka Doncic also stuck by the team when they fumbled trades, draft and FA left and right, and left him with Dinwiddie, Bullock and JaVale McGee as starters.
He won enough credit to do whatever the **** he wants, eat whatever he wants and drink whatever he wants, Anthony Davis has tanked multiple Lakjers seasons with his injury.

Nico said something along the lines of this trade makes the team more competitive.

Like you said, 8 months removed from a Finals appearance. You don’t get any more competitive than that.

Corruption at its finest, that or complete incompetence. There is no other way to explain it.

[The KnicksFix]

Imagine waking up one day, deciding to trade your franchise player in a move that can set your team back for just 2 years of PROBABLE success, for pennies on the dollar and thinking you made the right choice. Damn.

“probable success” is a stretch

Lively might be out for the season while Kyrie has a back problem that might require surgery and can walk in the offseason for free

Even more of a reason to keep your franchise player if one is about to leave and the other is injured

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[Bob8]

you can say that but you are ignoring all the warning signs that something is up with Luka. the drinking, the on court temper tantrums, the weight issues and the injuries, and the coaching quitting and the intermittent lack of effort on defense. and just watch this....

https://youtu.be/qayhHxOzqUI?si=tAwzIiqYgY2TmM3K

this is last finals....you don't think this matters and may have led to trading Luka? the Mavs are living with Luka everyday and they apparently got tired of him being out of control and they moved him....

its crazy to think BUT ask yourself this...would you have moved Allen Iverson in his prime or would you have rode it out with a player that was talented as all hell but undisciplined? This is starting to feel like the Mavs saw what we learned with AI, a undisciplined all world talent can get to you to the finals but can't beat a team of talented stars committed to winning and doing it the right way....and the MAVs apparently decided to move on from this generations AI EARLY....

not saying I would do it but in hindsight it makes some sense....even if I wouldn't do it...it makes sense.

Last year Luka had the best season of his career. Averaged 34/9/10 with 62% TS. Won a scoring title and had 73 points game. He played the most minutes in Nba and led underdog Mavs to the Finals. And Mavs are afraid of his conditioning and decline?

Being so afraid of their star will get injured, they trade for 32 years old man of glass, who has missed 39 more games than Luka in last 5 years?

Whoever believes narrative Nico is trying to sell must be extremely naive and delusional. I never heard for GM to need to find a new job in China, Nico might be first.

Look the people that know Luka better than you or me - traded Luka- so I don’t get it Bob… but the Mavs gave up on Luka and cost him 120 million -so it was mean spirited and cold - cause Nico clearly hates Luka

That's is true. Nico hates Luka and is an idiot. He traded a top 3 player, who had far the best year of his career, with incredible stats and team success. 2 players before him in MVP voting were out in round 2, Luka was in the Finals. And about this year, Mavs looked fantastic before Luka's injury, they were favourites for 2nd place in the West. They collapsed after Luka's injury, but Luka was going be back in 1 week time. The idiot trades him for a player, who has much worse injury history and is injured at the moment. You can't even make up this staff.

It didn't cost Luka nothing, he will make more money in LA eventually.

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Luka Doncic has played the most minutes in the NBA last year, averagad 33/10/9 and led his team to the finals when he was projected to lose every single series, this was less than 8 months ago, not some distant past.
Luka Doncic also stuck by the team when they fumbled trades, draft and FA left and right, and left him with Dinwiddie, Bullock and JaVale McGee as starters.
He won enough credit to do whatever the **** he wants, eat whatever he wants and drink whatever he wants, Anthony Davis has tanked multiple Lakjers seasons with his injury.

Nico said something along the lines of this trade makes the team more competitive.

Like you said, 8 months removed from a Finals appearance. You don’t get any more competitive than that.

Corruption at its finest, that or complete incompetence. There is no other way to explain it.

The ESPN tick-tock about this deal being all Nico (and ownership{ seems pretty credible.

Question his motives all you want, but the claim that he kept everybody except ownership's representative out of the loop sounds true.

Note that this view fits fine with narratives that include "Nico didn't trust Luka", "Ownership didn't want to pay the Supermax", and various elaborate conspiracy theories as well.

[wco81]

This trade is being compared to the worst trades in the history of sports, like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees.

But this certainly has the makings of the worst NBA trade ever.

Even before Luka's career is done, we can already make some conclusions.

Worst atrocity by a GM since Billy King traded all those unprotected FRPs for washed KG and Pierce.

Worst atrocity by an owner since Clay Bennett lied and stole the Supersonics from Seattle.

[DAWill1128]

I would be okay if Draymond was 300 pounds if he played as well as prime Barkley.

These European dudes like Luka and Jokic who don't look ripped are strong as hell and beat guys up inside for easy buckets whenever they want. Toni Kukoc was known for having a glass of wine with his pre-game meal, pretty sure he smoked a cigarrette to settle his stomach and drank a cappuccino for energy before the games.

Not everyone is LeBron spending millions on all the top of the line steroids, personal trainer's, and dieticians. Jokic has won multiple MVP's and I am pretty sure he just tends to his horses and watches Pokemon in his offseason.

[G R E Y]

Is the NBA not going to look into the **** shadiness of this absolute travesty of a deal or what?

Like it's all official now?

[G R E Y]

Weird how Cuban has said not a single word about it on X...

[badpotato]

Is the NBA not going to look into the **** shadiness of this absolute travesty of a deal or what?

Like it's all official now?

It's done, Dallas would have to riot for something to be done, but live is hard, people are busy.
Most impactful would be empty arena during Mavs home games (unlikely) or Cuban stirring the pot (but he already declined comment to espn and seems to be over Mavs).

[-Luke-]

so nico harrison is even more incompetent than what everyone has imagined if he really was bamboozled into accepting just 1 frp from what was originally many frps

The more information that comes out (whether real or not), the more baffled I am with this trade. And my first reaction was that I almost had a heart attack.

[G R E Y]

Is the NBA not going to look into the **** shadiness of this absolute travesty of a deal or what?

Like it's all official now?

It's done, Dallas would have to riot for something to be done, but live is hard, people are busy.
Most impactful would be empty arena during Mavs home games (unlikely) or Cuban stirring the pot (but he already declined comment to espn and seems to be over Mavs).

Cuban going from super invested and hands on and court side to a sudden about turn, selling the team after a finals, going **** functional mute mode when his best player got shipped off and for that return is weird, too.

[-Luke-]

Is the NBA not going to look into the **** shadiness of this absolute travesty of a deal or what?

Like it's all official now?

It's done, Dallas would have to riot for something to be done, but live is hard, people are busy.
Most impactful would be empty arena during Mavs home games (unlikely) or Cuban stirring the pot (but he already declined comment to espn and seems to be over Mavs).

Cuban going from super invested and hands on and court side to a sudden about turn, selling the team after a finals, going **** functional mute mode when his best player got shipped off and for that return is weird, too.

And when he sold the (majority of the) team they had this weird bs announcement that he was still in charge of basketball operations. We all knew it wasn't true, but shouldn't he at least come out now to clarify that? If we were to believe the official story, we have to assume that Cuban is responsible for that deal. Why is he playing the clown like this?

[badpotato]

Is the NBA not going to look into the **** shadiness of this absolute travesty of a deal or what?

Like it's all official now?

It's done, Dallas would have to riot for something to be done, but live is hard, people are busy.
Most impactful would be empty arena during Mavs home games (unlikely) or Cuban stirring the pot (but he already declined comment to espn and seems to be over Mavs).

Cuban going from super invested and hands on and court side to a sudden about turn, selling the team after a finals, going **** functional mute mode when his best player got shipped off and for that return is weird, too.

He got solid buck for the sale, there was talk about him still making decission as minority owner - but if it was ever the plan it changed real fast.

He might have some stipulations binding him to not criticise Mavs FO and even if not it will be poor buisness etiquete to speak up about buisness you've sold - He's never buying Dallas back,but he will remain businessman moving forward and not looking like dangerous guy to do deals with is more important to him.

He's not happy about it - we know that from Chandler Parson text message story, but I would not expect anything beyond that.

Dallas Fans are stuck with Nico and Adelsons on their own.

[BaDaBo]

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Another interesting snippet from that article.

Doncic weighed 255 pounds when he underwent an MRI on his calf in late January, sources said, and he typically played in the 250-255 range. The Mavs considered his ideal weight to be 245, which would allow Doncic to maintain his advantage of being able to bully defenders with power while maximizing his quickness and minimizing injury risk.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43676830/how-stunning-luka-doncic-anthony-davis-trade-came-together-los-angeles-lakers-dallas-mavericks

I wonder who leaked the 270 number to the media. Spin that BS, Nico. Spin it hard.

[Decipher]

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[XTC]

It's been 2 days and I still feel so bad for Mavs fans. No fanbase deserves this, it would have been better if Luka refused to re-sign and he walked. You just don't trade a 25 year old who is as great as Luka.

Im so sorry Maverick fans

[Ryoga Hibiki]

I'm not trying to downplay how good AD is because I agree he's probably a top 5 2-way player in the league when healthy.

I never understood how this "best two way player" actually works, unless we're comparing Christian Koloko to Kessler Edwards.
Is Ivica Zubac a better "two way player" then Nikola Jokic? If yes, how is this a useful data point?