The Washington Commanders Thread

[gambitx777]

https://www.thedraftnetwork.com/2024/12/31/tai-felton-scouting-report-nfl-draft

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tai-Felton-WR-Maryland

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2025/tai-felton

What I'm reading is that Felton projects to be a round 3 or round 4 pick.

Yeah I have him as a day 3 guy. He's interesting. There are always small school guys or mid level guys who impress with awesome showings at the combine and workouts and interviews that jump guys like Felton if he doesn't have a good showing.

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[Dark Faze]

I like Garrett, but that's too many resources for a defensive end imo. I just don't think the position is as impactful today as it used to be. I think you get a lot more value out of an elite defensive tackle. If a defensive tackle is constantly getting pressure then the run game is going to be in trouble. If a defensive end is dominating his matchup, there are ways to scheme around that easier, and it may not impact the run game much.

[Rafael122]

I like Garrett, but that's too many resources for a defensive end imo. I just don't think the position is as impactful today as it used to be. I think you get a lot more value out of an elite defensive tackle. If a defensive tackle is constantly getting pressure then the run game is going to be in trouble. If a defensive end is dominating his matchup, there are ways to scheme around that easier, and it may not impact the run game much.

The issue is we were getting no pass rush. Getting a guy like Garrett, who pressures the QB will make our corners and d-tackles better. We have the cap room, our pick is 29th this year. We throw in another 1st which will be in the 20s and you get a guy who still has 3-4 prime years left.

You have to trust your scouts and the evaluations to make up for the fact that we don't have a first round pick. Maybe we can get away with a 1st, a 2nd and one of Allen/Payne. Maybe, but I would at least call and see what the market is.

[gambitx777]

I like Garrett, but that's too many resources for a defensive end imo. I just don't think the position is as impactful today as it used to be. I think you get a lot more value out of an elite defensive tackle. If a defensive tackle is constantly getting pressure then the run game is going to be in trouble. If a defensive end is dominating his matchup, there are ways to scheme around that easier, and it may not impact the run game much.

The issue is we were getting no pass rush. Getting a guy like Garrett, who pressures the QB will make our corners and d-tackles better. We have the cap room, our pick is 29th this year. We throw in another 1st which will be in the 20s and you get a guy who still has 3-4 prime years left.

You have to trust your scouts and the evaluations to make up for the fact that we don't have a first round pick. Maybe we can get away with a 1st, a 2nd and one of Allen/Payne. Maybe, but I would at least call and see what the market is.

I think we have so much cap room. I can imagine us seriously trading major resources for Garret. We have too many holes and we can fill those in free agency we can get up to 140 mill in cap room. Those guys who can be waived or cut to do so will be easily replaced in the draft but you have to keep the picks to do it. I would hold off.

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[Rafael122]

I like Garrett, but that's too many resources for a defensive end imo. I just don't think the position is as impactful today as it used to be. I think you get a lot more value out of an elite defensive tackle. If a defensive tackle is constantly getting pressure then the run game is going to be in trouble. If a defensive end is dominating his matchup, there are ways to scheme around that easier, and it may not impact the run game much.

The issue is we were getting no pass rush. Getting a guy like Garrett, who pressures the QB will make our corners and d-tackles better. We have the cap room, our pick is 29th this year. We throw in another 1st which will be in the 20s and you get a guy who still has 3-4 prime years left.

You have to trust your scouts and the evaluations to make up for the fact that we don't have a first round pick. Maybe we can get away with a 1st, a 2nd and one of Allen/Payne. Maybe, but I would at least call and see what the market is.

I think we have so much cap room. I can imagine us seriously trading major resources for Garret. We have too many holes and we can fill those in free agency we can get up to 140 mill in cap room. Those guys who can be waived or cut to do so will be easily replaced in the draft but you have to keep the picks to do it. I would hold off.

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You can mess around with the cap to the point where their cap hits aren't as high as you would think. They could still get Garrett, offer him a new contract, and still go out and get another guy on the line. We've been linked to Osa Odighizuwa because of Quinn. Josh Sweat is a free agent too. All I'm saying is if you have an opportunity to improve your team, and you're addressing a weakness, and you just made the NFC Title game where you were essentially gashed on the run, you go for it.

[TGW]

I would say no to Garrett. There are still too many holes to fill to dedicate that many resources to one player.

[pancakes3]

i know it's against everything that's been ingrained in us but can we stop acting like beaten down fans for a second?

some of yall are saying "that's way too many resources" without even knowing what the deal will be. Garrett is forcing a trade, so the Browns have less leverage. Also, we're a good team. Yes there are holes to fill, but it's like yall are acting like we're the 5-win team that we were projected to be, and we didn't just make the NFC championship game.

be like rafael. be better.

[gambitx777]

i know it's against everything that's been ingrained in us but can we stop acting like beaten down fans for a second?

some of yall are saying "that's way too many resources" without even knowing what the deal will be. Garrett is forcing a trade, so the Browns have less leverage. Also, we're a good team. Yes there are holes to fill, but it's like yall are acting like we're the 5-win team that we were projected to be, and we didn't just make the NFC championship game.

be like rafael. be better.

We over paid for a washed CB lol. Maybe les Garret won't be less expensive than that and we just can't afford to send draft capital down the drain .we over preformed. This team wasn't as good as the record we had Jayden. We need to draft well and use our cap room smartly. We can't afford to over pay for a 20 year old DE as good as he may be.

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[Kanyewest]

i know it's against everything that's been ingrained in us but can we stop acting like beaten down fans for a second?

some of yall are saying "that's way too many resources" without even knowing what the deal will be. Garrett is forcing a trade, so the Browns have less leverage. Also, we're a good team. Yes there are holes to fill, but it's like yall are acting like we're the 5-win team that we were projected to be, and we didn't just make the NFC championship game.

be like rafael. be better.

We over paid for a washed CB lol. Maybe les Garret won't be less expensive than that and we just can't afford to send draft capital down the drain .we over preformed. This team wasn't as good as the record we had Jayden. We need to draft well and use our cap room smartly. We can't afford to over pay for a 20 year old DE as good as he may be.

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Most of us would would have taken a conference championship appearance if we knew that was going to be the result of giving up a 3rd rounder, 4th, and sx round picks while also getting back a 5th round pck. The Commanders essentially traded Dotson, a 4th rounder, and a sixth rounder for Lattimore and 2 7th rounds.

Lattimore was great against the Lions, not so much against the Eagles although AJ Brown is a great receiver who had 300 yards receiving in 2 games against the Commanders last year.

[tontoz]

Josh Sweat is an option at Edge, 27 yr old free agent. We would fill a major hole while weakening a rival in the process.

[TGW]

Josh Sweat is an option at Edge, 27 yr old free agent. We would fill a major hole while weakening a rival in the process.

He would be an awesome get. So would Khalil Mack. Those guys would be better options than Garrett from a cost perspective.

[gambitx777]

I'll take Malcolm Koonce, TALANOA HUFANGA, DRE GREENLAW, RONNIE STANLEY/Cam Robinsonand a decent WR option like goddwin or Johnson, Higgins maybe. And our picks Over trading the farm for Garret.

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[TGW]

They are definintely drafting a RB

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[Tyrone Messby]

No to Etienne. He’s trash.

[gambitx777]

No to Etienne. He’s trash.

I agree Edwards is solid. Neals ok I guess.

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[Dark Faze]

The issue is we were getting no pass rush. Getting a guy like Garrett, who pressures the QB will make our corners and d-tackles better. We have the cap room, our pick is 29th this year. We throw in another 1st which will be in the 20s and you get a guy who still has 3-4 prime years left.

You have to trust your scouts and the evaluations to make up for the fact that we don't have a first round pick. Maybe we can get away with a 1st, a 2nd and one of Allen/Payne. Maybe, but I would at least call and see what the market is.

I think we have so much cap room. I can imagine us seriously trading major resources for Garret. We have too many holes and we can fill those in free agency we can get up to 140 mill in cap room. Those guys who can be waived or cut to do so will be easily replaced in the draft but you have to keep the picks to do it. I would hold off.

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You can mess around with the cap to the point where their cap hits aren't as high as you would think. They could still get Garrett, offer him a new contract, and still go out and get another guy on the line. We've been linked to Osa Odighizuwa because of Quinn. Josh Sweat is a free agent too. All I'm saying is if you have an opportunity to improve your team, and you're addressing a weakness, and you just made the NFC Title game where you were essentially gashed on the run, you go for it.

I'm just scared that his impact isn't worth being the highest paid player of his position + two first rounders. It's not really about him as a player. He can be ranked #1 in PFF and still not have the impact we'd be looking for with those resources.

By comparison we could just overpay a guy like Khalil Mack and probably get something close in production without wasting the firsts.

If I'm using 2 firsts and making you the highest paid player at your position then the impact has to be insane. I don't think any defensive end in the league provides that kind of value.

[TGW]

^^^Exactly. Just look at the Browns the past few years. It's not like Garrett was the difference between W/Ls. The only player on the field that could have that much of an affect is the quarterback.

[tontoz]

Yeah I am not necessarily against trading for Garrett but we have so many needs I am not sure it is a good idea to put so much into one player.

Apparently this draft is good for edge rushers. If we draft Edge in the 1st and/or sign Sweat that might be the better option.

[Wizardspride]

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[Wizardspride]

I think we have so much cap room. I can imagine us seriously trading major resources for Garret. We have too many holes and we can fill those in free agency we can get up to 140 mill in cap room. Those guys who can be waived or cut to do so will be easily replaced in the draft but you have to keep the picks to do it. I would hold off.

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You can mess around with the cap to the point where their cap hits aren't as high as you would think. They could still get Garrett, offer him a new contract, and still go out and get another guy on the line. We've been linked to Osa Odighizuwa because of Quinn. Josh Sweat is a free agent too. All I'm saying is if you have an opportunity to improve your team, and you're addressing a weakness, and you just made the NFC Title game where you were essentially gashed on the run, you go for it.

I'm just scared that his impact isn't worth being the highest paid player of his position + two first rounders. It's not really about him as a player. He can be ranked #1 in PFF and still not have the impact we'd be looking for with those resources.

By comparison we could just overpay a guy like Khalil Mack and probably get something close in production without wasting the firsts.

If I'm using 2 firsts and making you the highest paid player at your position then the impact has to be insane. I don't think any defensive end in the league provides that kind of value.

14-15 sacks will definitely provide that kind of value...