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Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#1 » by Mavrelous » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:09 pm

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Caleb Martin to Dallas for Grimes, Grimes is better shooter, but Martin is better at everything else, and he shoots 100% against the Celtics!
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#2 » by arkuo » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:14 pm

What the phuck.

But I guess Nico didn't want to go through contract negotiations with Luka, so why do it with Grimes.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#3 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:19 pm

So Nico was a great GM for before and he will be after Luka trade... Clear collusion with Pelinka.
I don't understand how people can't see it.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#4 » by arkuo » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:20 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:So Nico was a great GM for before and he will be after Luka trade... Clear collusion with Pelinka.
I don't understand how people can't see it.



People saw it. You and me both. It's just that people are powerless to rescind that trade so it went through.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#5 » by Mavrelous » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:20 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


Moving the discussion to here
Martin is tough and dirty, Mavs needed a mean streak, and he's signed to the contract Nico wanted Grimes to sign.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#6 » by Archx » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:23 pm

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Archx wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


Moving the discussion to here
Martin is tough and dirty, Mavs needed a mean streak, and he's signed to the contract Nico wanted Grimes to sign.


It's hard to go from a guy people wanted to actually start and who could give you 20 pts with good defense to freaking Caleb Martin. That's just another unreal trade to me.

But yeah, like you said, money wise agreed. I also said i expect Grimes to be moved but Mavs paid another draft pick to move a better player in my eyes and also statistically i would argue Grimes was much better. But hey.. this week anything is possible lol.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#7 » by arkuo » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:23 pm

Martin is like a Deshawn Stevenson. Minor move, but I like it. Doesn't move much of the needle. Bench player for a bench player.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#8 » by Bob8 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:23 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Archx wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


Moving the discussion to here
Martin is tough and dirty, Mavs needed a mean streak, and he's signed to the contract Nico wanted Grimes to sign.


That means Klay is gone now? If Ad is playing 4, PJ 3, now you have Caleb, you for sure don't need both Naji and Klay.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#9 » by Mavrelous » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:27 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Archx wrote:
You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


Moving the discussion to here
Martin is tough and dirty, Mavs needed a mean streak, and he's signed to the contract Nico wanted Grimes to sign.


That means Klay is gone now? If Ad is playing 4, PJ 3, now you have Caleb, you for sure don't need both Naji and Klay.


More Naji than Klay, but we'll see.
They need an on ball guard, thay's their biggest need.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#10 » by arkuo » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:29 pm

Grimes was dancing with Kyrie in shootaround not knowing he's getting left behind by the team plane in Philly LMAO!!!
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#11 » by Bob8 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:30 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Moving the discussion to here
Martin is tough and dirty, Mavs needed a mean streak, and he's signed to the contract Nico wanted Grimes to sign.


That means Klay is gone now? If Ad is playing 4, PJ 3, now you have Caleb, you for sure don't need both Naji and Klay.


More Naji than Klay, but we'll see.
They need an on ball guard, thay's their biggest need.


Wasn't Naji DJJ replacement? Will Ad guard 3 positions simultaneously?
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#12 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:31 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Archx wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


Moving the discussion to here
Martin is tough and dirty, Mavs needed a mean streak, and he's signed to the contract Nico wanted Grimes to sign.


Grimes refused the extension, he was out day1 of this season... Unfortunately for us his trade value stay low because his inconsistency.

Caleb Martin is a dog with PO experience, perfect with Luka... Oh well..****.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#13 » by Archx » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:32 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Moving the discussion to here
Martin is tough and dirty, Mavs needed a mean streak, and he's signed to the contract Nico wanted Grimes to sign.


That means Klay is gone now? If Ad is playing 4, PJ 3, now you have Caleb, you for sure don't need both Naji and Klay.


More Naji than Klay, but we'll see.
They need an on ball guard, thay's their biggest need.


This is why i don't understand wtf is Nico doing now. He should be looking for a creator not "tough" guys. Mavs had Naji, PJ, Grimes even Exum... Now he moves Grimes who was a very mobile guard/small wing for Martin?

Like i said, i understand from financial aspect but like Bob said, you're left with Klay and Naji on small wing spots. Naji wasn't that brilliant lately and he's been much worse on defense that i thought he would be. Actually moving Naji would (to me) make more sense.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#14 » by Mavrelous » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:34 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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That means Klay is gone now? If Ad is playing 4, PJ 3, now you have Caleb, you for sure don't need both Naji and Klay.


More Naji than Klay, but we'll see.
They need an on ball guard, thay's their biggest need.


Wasn't Naji DJJ replacement? Will Ad guard 3 positions simultaneously?

Max Christie replaces DJJ as POA defender.
Why would AD guard 3 positons, I don't understand.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#15 » by Mavrelous » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:36 pm

Welp, turns out he's been hurt and out for a month, unless they are sure it's not something serious, I'm not sure what was the rush to do the deal...
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#16 » by Archx » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:38 pm

Best Defensive 3-Point Percentage (D3PT%) For The 2024-25 NBA Regular Season (Min. 120 Total D3PA) :

1. Quentin Grimes — 22.8%
2. Goga Bitadze — 26.3%
3. Jalen Johnson — 29.0%
3. Miles Bridges — 29.0%
5. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander — 29.1%
6. Payton Pritchard — 29.2%
7. Derrick White — 29.4%
7. Anthony Black — 29.4%
9. Josh Giddey — 29.5%
10. Amen Thompson — 30.1%


Best 3PT% On Pull Up Shots In The 2024-25 NBA Regular Season (Min. 40 Total 3PA) :

1. Quentin Grimes — 46.7%
2. Caris LeVert — 46.5%
3. Zach LaVine — 46.1%
4. Jordan Poole — 45.5%
5. Brice Sensabaugh — 45.5%
6. Ty Jerome — 43.4%
7. Duncan Robinson — 42.2%
8. Anthony Edwards — 41.9%
9. Cam Payne — 41.8%
10. Cam Johnson — 41.5%

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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#17 » by Bob8 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:38 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
More Naji than Klay, but we'll see.
They need an on ball guard, thay's their biggest need.


Wasn't Naji DJJ replacement? Will Ad guard 3 positions simultaneously?

Max Christie replaces DJJ as POA defender.
Why would AD guard 3 positons, I don't understand.


I forgot about Christie.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#18 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:50 pm

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Grimes was good this year...it's only cause he didn't sign the contract that he was traded...Mavs really are going for a defense only aproach :roll:
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#19 » by Forbes » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:59 pm

I guess we are preparing this team to beat Boston, defense only, long defenders, but we still need to be able to score. I’m guessing more to come because we 100% need another creator or someone that’s considered a 6th man of the year candidate that can score.
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Re: Caleb Martin to Dallas for Qentin Grimes 

Post#20 » by Archx » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:05 pm

Forbes wrote:I guess we are preparing this team to beat Boston, defense only, long defenders, but we still need to be able to score. I’m guessing more to come because we 100% need another creator or someone that’s considered a 6th man of the year candidate that can score.



How can we talk defense when Grimes is a better man on man defender?

Grimes defends at 40.4% DFGA
Martin 48%

Then you have stat that i also posted above Best Defensive 3-Point Percentage (D3PT%). And grimes comes out on top by a large margin. Which further proves that Grimes was a perfect perimeter defender this team needed who could also go on huge scoring runs...

Caleb Martin shoots 60% around the rim (layups), Grimes 73%.

Grimes was very good getting to the rim.

This move was purely because Nico knows he doesn't want to pay Grimes and simply wanted the easy way out. And paid another 2nd round pick on top of it to get rid of a better player. :nonono:

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