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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#241 » by Dez » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:30 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:I want Vuc off this team so we can really bottom out. If we keep him I’m gonna be more annoyed than I already am. If you can trade Zach for peanuts then just get whatever you can for Vuc too.


Zach was traded for a good package considering where his value was at the start of the season.

People need to understand that half a season of his play isn't enough to justify giving up significant value for him.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#242 » by WesPeace » Tue Feb 4, 2025 9:48 am

I still hope Vooch lands in GSW for Looney and G.Payton, both expiring contracts..

I also think Carter would fit with Curry for some spark plug minutes with his shooting. But its harder to pull that trade with salaries, with both Vuc and Carter going to GSW, unless we would take on K.Anderson, who aint bad backup PF, at decent salary, but contract lenght is too long a bit.

Vucevic, Carter for Looney, Payton, Anderson..
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Post#243 » by Muzbar » Tue Feb 4, 2025 11:30 am

WesPeace wrote:I still hope Vooch lands in GSW for Looney and G.Payton, both expiring contracts..

I also think Carter would fit with Curry for some spark plug minutes with his shooting. But its harder to pull that trade with salaries, with both Vuc and Carter going to GSW, unless we would take on K.Anderson, who aint bad backup PF, at decent salary, but contract lenght is too long a bit.

Vucevic, Carter for Looney, Payton, Anderson..

The final year of his contract is fully unguaranteed, so it's not as bad as it seems.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#244 » by DASMACKDOWN » Tue Feb 4, 2025 12:53 pm

I feel it should be #1 priority to move Vooch at this point.

We need to move on not because its inevitable but you really want to see the young guys play without him.

The thing to his credit, is that Vooch has been an ironman for the Bulls since he has been here. We havent seen long stretches without Vooch and I want to see how the players fill the void.

On top of that we know we have had a void of attention to the front court since AKME have arrived. I think we should know if a Smith, Collins combo is ok for now or it needs to be revamped by another draft pick or free agent. If they are actually good enough in the short term, then maybe we get more wing help. But we wont know if Vooch is sitll here.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#245 » by sco » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:46 pm

HomoSapien wrote:I just came in here to post the Gafford rumor. Would love that trade but I would also be just so cheesed off that AKME is just trading back for assets/players he traded away for no reason.

A) They won't do it for the reason you suggested (admitting a mistake), and B) Now that Zach is gone, we don't want to win games the next couple years. Vuc is going for expirings and 2nds, if we were offered something better than that he'd be gone already.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#246 » by ChettheJet » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:20 pm

I think Vuc can't move to his most likely destinations, GSW, LAL until the last minute because they really want to make a bigger splash and he's the fall back guy that still helps their team. With Butler, now KD and Ingram possibly moving around maybe they look harder at Vuc Thursday morning. Jimmy is going to push his luck and even PHO is going to say, forget it. Even if there are 3 team trades with those 2 maybe the Bulls like those returns better than the other wild card offers.

You can't rule out three team trades that open up a center sot on teams, Capela for one, maybe somebody sees something in Zach Collins that appeals to them. There comes a point where the Bulls have to just look forward and if they can't get much for Vuc than too bad. They've lost his entire stay here, let's try something different, the worst that could happen is you lose
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#247 » by Dez » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:56 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if Vuc is a last second deal where the Bulls are just holding on to the last possible moment to pick the best package of crap offered.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#248 » by MrSparkle » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:02 pm

Got a feeling Vuc is getting traded for broken up salaries that expire the same time. No picks. Maybe a 2nd, but the way things have gone, I imagine we’ll be giving up the pick.

Or maybe Vuc and Jevon for J. Isaac.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#249 » by HomoSapien » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:18 pm

At this point, here's what's probably possible:

Vucevic Gets Traded to Playoff Team: We've heard that the Warriors have cooled on him a bit, but are desperate to make a splash at the Deadline. Jimmy Butler is supposedly telling them that he won't re-up with them. It's hard for me to imagine that they'd be able to get Durant or James. I think there's a good chance that once the dust settles, they'll restart talks with Chicago. I also think LA is still an option as they figure out their goals for this season. The only way Nico Harrison can justify the trade is if they win a championship with Davis. There's a lot of overlap between Davis, Gafford, and Lively. I wouldn't be surprised if that Gafford-Vuc trade gains momentum. Harrison has to be feeling the heat as he quickly becomes the most hated person in the NBA.

Lonzo Ball - KC is signaling that we should be able to get some sort of draft capital for him. I'm not super psyched about trading him for a 2nd round pick, because he's still young and clearly an impact player who has had his minutes restriction softened. Still, if the goal is to bottom out then he's a guy that can win us games.

Coby White - I'm skeptical we'll trade him and I also question if getting something like the Nuggets late first round pick is worth it. White is young and productive. What are the chances we find a better player in the 20s? I know a concern is that he'll suddenly command a big contract, but I'm not convinced that's a sure bet. He'll get a raise, for sure, but I suspect we'll see teams tighten their purse strings as they start to realize how prohibitive that tax aprons are.

Trae Jones - Expiring contract and a steady point guard. It has to be a priority to trade him for a pick and I think that's a realistic goal. We don't need him and frankly we don't even need to get an expiring contract back. We have a ton of contracts expiring next year, so finding someone who fits that timeline is more than fine.

Zach Collins - He's another guy that I could see being moved to a team like LA. Personally, I'd like to see him moved and us roll the dice on Bamba who was just waived.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#250 » by HomoSapien » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:20 pm

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I guess add Huerter to the list. He's actually someone I would consider keeping. He's having a down year but he's typically a good shooter. On a tanking team, he's a guy who could see his value raised.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#251 » by dawhizz » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:24 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Got a feeling Vuc is getting traded for broken up salaries that expire the same time. No picks. Maybe a 2nd, but the way things have gone, I imagine we’ll be giving up the pick.

Or maybe Vuc and Jevon for J. Isaac.


Why would we want Isaac? Isn’t he an older, more expensive, more injury prone, and worse Pat at this point?
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#252 » by KissedByaRose1 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:25 pm

HomoSapien wrote:At this point, here's what's probably possible:

Vucevic Gets Traded to Playoff Team: We've heard that the Warriors have cooled on him a bit, but are desperate to make a splash at the Deadline. Jimmy Butler is supposedly telling them that he won't re-up with them. It's hard for me to imagine that they'd be able to get Durant or James. I think there's a good chance that once the dust settles, they'll restart talks with Chicago. I also think LA is still an option as they figure out their goals for this season. The only way Nico Harrison can justify the trade is if they win a championship with Davis. There's a lot of overlap between Davis, Gafford, and Lively. I wouldn't be surprised if that Gafford-Vuc trade gains momentum. Harrison has to be feeling the heat as he quickly becomes the most hated person in the NBA.

Lonzo Ball - KC is signaling that we should be able to get some sort of draft capital for him. I'm not super psyched about trading him for a 2nd round pick, because he's still young and clearly an impact player who has had his minutes restriction softened. Still, if the goal is to bottom out then he's a guy that can win us games.

Coby White - I'm skeptical we'll trade him and I also question if getting something like the Nuggets late first round pick is worth it. White is young and productive. What are the chances we find a better player in the 20s? I know a concern is that he'll suddenly command a big contract, but I'm not convinced that's a sure bet. He'll get a raise, for sure, but I suspect we'll see teams tighten their purse strings as they start to realize how prohibitive that tax aprons are.

Trae Jones - Expiring contract and a steady point guard. It has to be a priority to trade him for a pick and I think that's a realistic goal. We don't need him and frankly we don't even need to get an expiring contract back. We have a ton of contracts expiring next year, so finding someone who fits that timeline is more than fine.

Zach Collins - He's another guy that I could see being moved to a team like LA. Personally, I'd like to see him moved and us roll the dice on Bamba who was just waived.


A handful of teams would trade at minimum 2 2nds for Heurter and maybe we can even get a late FRP.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#253 » by Ctownbulls » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:35 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:At this point, here's what's probably possible:

Vucevic Gets Traded to Playoff Team: We've heard that the Warriors have cooled on him a bit, but are desperate to make a splash at the Deadline. Jimmy Butler is supposedly telling them that he won't re-up with them. It's hard for me to imagine that they'd be able to get Durant or James. I think there's a good chance that once the dust settles, they'll restart talks with Chicago. I also think LA is still an option as they figure out their goals for this season. The only way Nico Harrison can justify the trade is if they win a championship with Davis. There's a lot of overlap between Davis, Gafford, and Lively. I wouldn't be surprised if that Gafford-Vuc trade gains momentum. Harrison has to be feeling the heat as he quickly becomes the most hated person in the NBA.

Lonzo Ball - KC is signaling that we should be able to get some sort of draft capital for him. I'm not super psyched about trading him for a 2nd round pick, because he's still young and clearly an impact player who has had his minutes restriction softened. Still, if the goal is to bottom out then he's a guy that can win us games.

Coby White - I'm skeptical we'll trade him and I also question if getting something like the Nuggets late first round pick is worth it. White is young and productive. What are the chances we find a better player in the 20s? I know a concern is that he'll suddenly command a big contract, but I'm not convinced that's a sure bet. He'll get a raise, for sure, but I suspect we'll see teams tighten their purse strings as they start to realize how prohibitive that tax aprons are.

Trae Jones - Expiring contract and a steady point guard. It has to be a priority to trade him for a pick and I think that's a realistic goal. We don't need him and frankly we don't even need to get an expiring contract back. We have a ton of contracts expiring next year, so finding someone who fits that timeline is more than fine.

Zach Collins - He's another guy that I could see being moved to a team like LA. Personally, I'd like to see him moved and us roll the dice on Bamba who was just waived.


A handful of teams would trade at minimum 2 2nds for Heurter and maybe we can even get a late FRP.


What makes you say that?
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#254 » by MrSparkle » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:36 pm

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MrSparkle wrote:Got a feeling Vuc is getting traded for broken up salaries that expire the same time. No picks. Maybe a 2nd, but the way things have gone, I imagine we’ll be giving up the pick.

Or maybe Vuc and Jevon for J. Isaac.


Why would we want Isaac? Isn’t he an older, more expensive, more injury prone, and worse Pat at this point?


I just noticed he signed an extension until 2029. It’s $15m salary but nevermind- I thought he was an expiring/26.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#255 » by dougthonus » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:45 pm

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WindyCityBorn wrote:I want Vuc off this team so we can really bottom out. If we keep him I’m gonna be more annoyed than I already am. If you can trade Zach for peanuts then just get whatever you can for Vuc too.


Zach was traded for a good package considering where his value was at the start of the season.

People need to understand that half a season of his play isn't enough to justify giving up significant value for him.


Which of those two arguments do not also apply to Vuc? I think the feeling of the OP here is to also trade Vuc for peanuts.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#256 » by Rose2Boozer » Tue Feb 4, 2025 8:34 pm

Muzbar wrote:
WesPeace wrote:I still hope Vooch lands in GSW for Looney and G.Payton, both expiring contracts..

I also think Carter would fit with Curry for some spark plug minutes with his shooting. But its harder to pull that trade with salaries, with both Vuc and Carter going to GSW, unless we would take on K.Anderson, who aint bad backup PF, at decent salary, but contract lenght is too long a bit.

Vucevic, Carter for Looney, Payton, Anderson..

The final year of his contract is fully unguaranteed, so it's not as bad as it seems.


AK should just accept the second round picks and send Vucevic to Golden State.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#257 » by Muzbar » Tue Feb 4, 2025 8:38 pm

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Muzbar wrote:
WesPeace wrote:I still hope Vooch lands in GSW for Looney and G.Payton, both expiring contracts..

I also think Carter would fit with Curry for some spark plug minutes with his shooting. But its harder to pull that trade with salaries, with both Vuc and Carter going to GSW, unless we would take on K.Anderson, who aint bad backup PF, at decent salary, but contract lenght is too long a bit.

Vucevic, Carter for Looney, Payton, Anderson..

The final year of his contract is fully unguaranteed, so it's not as bad as it seems.


AK should just accept the second round picks and send Vucevic to Golden State.

Agreed.

He's not getting a 1st for Vucevic.
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#258 » by Chi town » Tue Feb 4, 2025 8:53 pm

3 way

Capela to Lakers
Vuc and maybe Carter to Hawks
Filler and 2nds to Bulls
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#259 » by ShadyMoney » Tue Feb 4, 2025 8:57 pm

Trade them all.

The Bulls objective is to get younger

This is a fight for the 2030s. Not the next couple of years.

It’s back to 99-04 years now
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Re: Vuc Trade Thread 

Post#260 » by 2weekswithpay » Tue Feb 4, 2025 8:58 pm

Muzbar wrote:
Rose2Boozer wrote:
Muzbar wrote:The final year of his contract is fully unguaranteed, so it's not as bad as it seems.


AK should just accept the second round picks and send Vucevic to Golden State.

Agreed.

He's not getting a 1st for Vucevic.


The Warriors don't have many seconds to trade and that could be the issue here.

They have one SRP this year from the Heat.

2026 SRP is owned by the Hornets

2027 & 2028 SRPs go to the Wizards

2029 SRP goes to the Nets.

A trade involving SRPs would the Heat's 2025 SRP and the Warriors' SRP in 2030/2031.

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