Ayton, Grant, and Simons for anything?

[Walton1one]

Some other rumors, I will condense here instead of multiple links

From David Aldridge, MIL\WAS discussing a Middleton\Kuzma swap with draft compensation also going to WAS.

Seems to me that this is what POR should be all over, especially if MIL is sending a pick to get off of Middleton. I theorized this awhile ago. IF WAS gets the MIL 31' 1st for freakin Kyle Kuzma, who has been worse than Grant this year, that will be a major fail on his part IMO.

Per Windhorst, Butler's only goal is to be dealt to PHX, only PHX

This is becoming excessive IMO, If Silver had a spine, he should step in and tell Jimmy and his camp enough. Like he did with Dame's agent, this is sounding very familiar to that situation and for the good of the NBA it should not be tolerated.

Per Sixers beat writer, Pompey, both ATL & GS are inquiring about George.

PHI just traded away Martin for Grimes, not sure if they are pivoting to tank, I don't think they are (chance of keeping their top 6 protect 1st are slim), but we will certainly know if George is dealt.

Per Sidery, GS pursuing Durant and offering Wiggins, Kuminga, Payton & Looney.

After watching PHX these last few nights, and with BUtler looking less and less likely to end up in PHX, this migh be something they should pursue?

From the Athletic, per Mark Gulbert, LAL is trying to get Turner and IND is asking for Reaves in return and might ADD more to deal to get Reaves??

I can't imagine this would be straight up, have to get more than that, 31' 1st at minimum, I would imagine. If they get Turner for a Reaves swap, after this whole Luka shenanigans there may be a general riot in NBA front offices...

Immanuel Quickley with a cryptic post, could be on the move, and then you now have rumors that TOR could be angling to acquire Ingram (there were some rumors last week about TOR if I recall).

This actually could make some sense IMO, TOR has a really weird roster of players\contrract, an Ingram\Barnes fron court could be interesting

Per Brett Seigel, GS looking at Bobby Portis

GS is apparently monitoring EVERYBODY right now, lol

Per Ian Begley, LAL & LAC inquiring about Brogdon

If Brogdon is dealt, you can that to the ledger of what Cronin paid for Avdija.

Per Sam Amick, LAL is targeting Steven Adams but are far apart

No duh, Pelinka wants a defensive big guy and wants to get them for literally nothing. all they have is their own 25' 2nd and a bunch of contracts that other teams don't probably want.

[PDXKnight]

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Oh boy, prepare yourselves that POR makes no deals at the deadline...again.

I actually think that RW3 is worth a 1st, the unprotected part depends on the type of 1st it is? Like if DAL offering their 25' 1st unprotected, it means little IMO as they will be a playoff team, meaning the pick is outside the lottery.

Since this is coming from an LAL source (Buha) & they only have one 1st (31) to offer, and I am unsure if they can attach future picks if they are not eligible to be traded yet (like if 31 doesn't convey it becomes multiple 2nd in future or lotto protect for 31 and then if it doesn't convey becomes 1-8 in 32, etc...), so I would not be overly surprised if that is the ask from LA

Maybe HOU comes to the table in the next day or two....

LOL, if and I stress "if" this has any credence then it's crazy, how can you demand an "unprotected" first given you are afraid to play a very injury prone big like Timelord, I do agree as well with the "unprotected" could be a pick from a team like Dallas/Hou/OKC

If we are being offered a lightly protected 1st for rob and decline ill be angry

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I actually think that RW3 is worth a 1st, the unprotected part depends on the type of 1st it is? Like if DAL offering their 25' 1st unprotected, it means little IMO as they will be a playoff team, meaning the pick is outside the lottery.

Since this is coming from an LAL source (Buha) & they only have one 1st (31) to offer, and I am unsure if they can attach future picks if they are not eligible to be traded yet (like if 31 doesn't convey it becomes multiple 2nd in future or lotto protect for 31 and then if it doesn't convey becomes 1-8 in 32, etc...), so I would not be overly surprised if that is the ask from LA

Yup, no team can trade any picks beyond 2031. If they protected the pick and it didn't convey the Blazers would get nothing. We don't know what LA is offering, they may only be offering a lottery protected or top 20 protected pick.

I think something like top 4 protection could be a fair compromise. Yeah there is a chance we end up taking on a bad contract and losing RW3 for nothing in that scenario, but might be a situation where we have to take a risk. Unlike others here I do understand the hesitation taking a 2031 protected pick because that would be a stinker of a trade if we didn't get the pick in the end.

Teams do this where the selectively leak info without real accurate context. The goal is to get folks here upset with the Blazers GM for being so unreasonable, surely he should be more reasonable and accept a situation where we trade a good player we like for an injured player we don't and potentially walk away with nothing to show for it, that would be real lovely wouldn't it.

[PDXKnight]

No duh, Pelinka wants a defensive big guy and wants to get them for literally nothing. all they have is their own 25' 2nd and a bunch of contracts that other teams don't probably want.

Unfortunately with teams throwing the towel (particularly chicago) I'm thinking LA lands on somebody

[Walton1one]

I actually think that RW3 is worth a 1st, the unprotected part depends on the type of 1st it is? Like if DAL offering their 25' 1st unprotected, it means little IMO as they will be a playoff team, meaning the pick is outside the lottery.

Since this is coming from an LAL source (Buha) & they only have one 1st (31) to offer, and I am unsure if they can attach future picks if they are not eligible to be traded yet (like if 31 doesn't convey it becomes multiple 2nd in future or lotto protect for 31 and then if it doesn't convey becomes 1-8 in 32, etc...), so I would not be overly surprised if that is the ask from LA

Yup, no team can trade any picks beyond 2031. If they protected the pick and it didn't convey the Blazers would get nothing. We don't know what LA is offering, they may only be offering a lottery protected or top 20 protected pick.

I think something like top 4 protection could be a fair compromise. Yeah there is a chance we end up taking on a bad contract and losing RW3 for nothing in that scenario, but might be a situation where we have to take a risk. Unlike others here I do understand the hesitation taking a 2031 protected pick because that would be a stinker of a trade if we didn't get the pick in the end.

Teams do this where the selectively leak info without real accurate context. The goal is to get folks here upset with the Blazers GM for being so unreasonable, surely he should be more reasonable and accept a situation where we trade a good player we like for an injured player we don't and potentially walk away with nothing to show for it, that would be real lovely wouldn't it.

Based on Pelinka's comments at Luka conference and inquiries reported about their big men, I am more inclined to believe that he wants to acquire a big for cheap (2nd and one of their bad contracts) and as of now, most NBA front offices are not having it. We will see if that changes as they get closer to the deadline.

I agree with you though, a Top 4 protection seems like a reasonable ask from POR. I am not sure Cronin or Pelinka are or will get there though.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I agree with you though, a Top 4 protection seems like a reasonable ask from POR. I am not sure Cronin or Pelinka are or will get there though.

Negotiations are a process, one team starts high the other team starts low. If they are leaking it's for a reason, usually to see if public pressure can change the other guys position and give you the upper hand.

But, results matter. I'll judge Cronin by what does or does not happen, not the media noise created by rival front offices during the process. I don't want to come off as any sort of apologist or defender of the guy because I do not believe in him and his track record is not good, but Pelinkas comments are not what is leading to that skepticism. Everyone complained about Ainge always asking too much but that is what got him the best deal every time, Cronin is no Ainge but I am not unhappy he is looking for the best deal and not taking anyone's first offer. But of course results have to follow that, if he ends up with nothing by overplaying his cards that is just as bad as (or even worse than) folding early and accepting a lesser offer for the sake of expediency.

[Walton1one]

Some more notes

Per Chris Mannix, HOU not trading young players unless Booker becomes available

That is what all those PHX picks that HOUS has are for, not Durant, Booker...

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Oh boy, talk about being completely seperated from reality....

[zzaj]

As much as I don't trust Cronin, I don't believe that tweet re: RWIII for a second. Sounds like Lakers trying to save face.

Would it be nice to get a late first back for Timelord? Would it be a nice gesture from the organization to put TL on a winning team? Yes, of course. But of all the vets, he's the one that I least care about getting dealt. If he walks eventually, great...he deserves to play on a winning team. If by some miracle he decides he wants to stay? (not likely) Then he can provide guidance for Clingan and provide great backup minutes while trying to stay healthy.

[JRoy]

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Per Chris Mannix, HOU not trading young players unless Booker becomes available

That is what all those PHX picks that HOUS has are for, not Durant, Booker...

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Oh boy, talk about being completely seperated from reality....

Millionaire who made his money playing a child’s game comparing himself to slaves.

What a time to be alive.

[Pattycakes]

I trust Cronin totally. He’s proven he’s a good a$$ gm, and moves patiently/doesn’t listen to outside forces.

That said, as much as I can’t stand Grant or Simons, I am okay with destiny at this point. They can still be useful if we somehow sneak into the playin.

[zzaj]

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Per Chris Mannix, HOU not trading young players unless Booker becomes available

That is what all those PHX picks that HOUS has are for, not Durant, Booker...

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Oh boy, talk about being completely seperated from reality....

Millionaire who made his money playing a child’s game comparing himself to slaves.

What a time to be alive.

Indeed. A German dude that's only spent 1/3rd of his life in the United States...and all of it as an adult.
I would doubt the German school system spends that much time on the history of slavery in the USA. Probably why he would make such a gauche comment.

Also, HE decided that 'everybody can choose where you're going' by signing his contract and giving 'everybody' that right...

That's not slavery.

[Blazinaway]

Orlando 1-9 last 10 games, would think the pressure is on the do something and get some shooting which they are awful at

[Walton1one]

In the, You can't make this up category..

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[Walton1one]

Per Mike Scotto, CLE is showing interest in DeAndre Hunter.

That was another team that had shown some interest in Grant

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Well there is a team that is not messing around

[Walton1one]

Nurkic to WAS for Valanciunas, curious to see what draft compensation PHX sends to WAS.

[Walton1one]

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I wonder if this is tied to Yabusele rumors

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Can't believe that WAS is going to deal Kuzma before POR can deal Grant, ugh...

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Rumors GS, HOU & DAL are pursuing a deal. I wonder if losing to POR was final straw in their anemic play and they decided to pivot, they are nowhere near a serious contender, in fact more likely to miss playoffs than make it past the 1st round IMO

[DusterBuster]

Nurkic to WAS for Valanciunas, curious to see what draft compensation PHX sends to WAS.

Is this complete? Haven't seen anything from Shams on it.

Can't believe that WAS is going to deal Kuzma before POR can deal Grant, ugh...

Kuzma's contract is half the length of Grant's and it declines year by year so as to take up exponentially less of a teams cap %.

Statwise, Kuzma is having a better season than Grant... Grant is have a near career worst year.

Long way to say... I can believe it.

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So not a done deal yet, but in discussions

[zzaj]

Ayton and Simons were potentially not very tradeable...and probably still are, but Cronin 100% waited too long on Grant. This is one of the dangers of waiting out offers.

[DusterBuster]

Ayton and Simons were potentially not very tradeable...and probably still are, but Cronin 100% waited too long on Grant. This is one of the dangers of waiting out offers.

Same is true for young guys like Sharpe. You can hold onto youth sometimes for too long and then resign them to deals they don't live up to.

I still believe Simons is and was tradable, but the price needs to be fair and that could mean lower than Cronin wants to accept. Same with Grant.

Ayton's value probably has been pretty low, but also, I'm not convinced the Blazers have ever been wildly motivated to move him.