Luka AD trade thread Part II

[CobraCommander]

Two things no one can believe -

1. A team would get tired of a primadona basketball player with a drinking problem, weight issues and anger management issues

2. That a team would take this step with Luka before Zion for weight, a team would take this step with Luka before Harden for drinking and partying, and a team would take this step with Luka before Draymond for anger issues… hell if it’s injuries they did this to Luka before Embiid and if it’s off the court crazy they did this to Luka before Ja…

So either Dallas ownership is legit strict on doing it the right way or Luka a nut job OR Dallas actually believes that they can win one this year OR


Dallas is the dumbest org in nba history

Let's say Luka is an alcoholic, who's never sober. Fat and totally unconditioned. But he by miracle averages 34/9/10, 62% TS, wining scoring title, is 3rd in MVP voting, makes 5th time in a row first All Nba team and while doing all that he brings your underdog team in the Finals, beating 1st, 3rd and 4th seed without home court advantage in the process, while playing the most total minutes in Nba and has the highest usage.

Who would trade player like that? Answer is just 1. Arrogant idiot.

Yep

As a Steelers fan, for years I heard complaints from some in the fanbase of "fat Ben" and also complaints of Ben's seeming habit of largely resting his arm and taking the summer off, throwing some footballs around near training camp and he was ready to go. While some complained, I was happy with the high level of play and the 2 rings.

"I need a recovery beer" is legendary.

They aren't all going to be Tom Brady and they don't have to be.

well Luka gonna LUKA...

[Last Guardian]

I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, sometimes owners/GM's make bad trades for stupid reasons, but I can't wrap my head around this one. It benefits the league far too much. The talk for the past few months about the NBA has been declining ratings. "No one is talking about the NBA right now" or there's no buzz around the regular season. Then boom, this happens. Suddenly a player who in any logical sense would either be a complete untouchable or would be traded for a king's ransom just happens to be moved for a 32 year old injury plagued star and to the 2nd biggest market in the US months after Adam Silver came out and blamed the World Series for the early season viewership decline (a World Series that included.....Los Angeles and New York). Nico makes this trade without even shopping Luka to other teams to get the best package, and apparently he's friends with Pelinka, so it's a complete conflict of interest on top of being a bad basketball trade. The entire sports world is now talking about the NBA just days before the SuperBowl.

Like I said, maybe it's just a bad trade by a bad exec, and unfortunately for Mavs fans they are the ones who suffer for it, but all of this is just all too convenient.

Isn’t the simplest answer the most likely? A dumb GM convinced a new dumb owner to make a stupid trade. We’ve seen plenty of dumb GM/owner combos over the years.

The Adelson family bought the team as an investment to build casinos in Texas. A GM who was a shoe salesman before he got his current position made a terrible evaluation. All Nico had to do was convince Patrick Dumont (who possibly knows nothing about basketball) to make this trade.

There were no real checks and balances to stop Nico and as such this bad trade got made. He only had to run it by one guy who may or may not know anything about basketball.

Nobody is that dumb. AD is great and all but he's not worth a 25 y/o superstar. This is league rigged.

[theforumblue]

this is the saddest i've ever seen any player look because they had to play for the lakers.

[enigmatics]

One thing's for sure .....

The Laker FO doesn't answer exclusively to the wanna be GM Lebron anymore.

[CobraCommander]

There would be people defending a Giannis for Harden trade because Giannis' English isn't as good, so he can't communicate with his teammates effectively.

This is why the NBA gets away with stuff like this.

So you just can’t imagine someone like Luka could be so
Much of a headache that a company wouldn’t want to pay he 350 million dollars and would want him out of their company? Well Nico literally said as much and traded him… so take Nico at his word - cause he did trade Luka and other than hating Luka, nothing else really makes sense

not really, because all reporting was describing him as very low maintenance, compared to hi talent level.
of course the conditioning and of course keeping his cool when officials were not calling it as he wanted.
but he was not a diva nor a locker room cancer.
you don't trade guys like that unless there's something much bigger behind.

I can't imagine how bad Luka would have to be for me to trade him for OLD @$$ GLASS AD!

[CobraCommander]

this is the saddest i've ever seen any player look because they had to play for the lakers.

he should be sad....he should feel embarrassed if he KNOWS he was a jerk to the mavs OR he should feel betrayed by the Mavs if he wasn't a jerk.

[Else_where]

this is the saddest i've ever seen any player look because they had to play for the lakers.

As he said in the conference "Dallas was home to me, its your home". Now I believe the reports he really cried for 2 days after the trade news. Big **** up by Mavs, even if Nico makes the call, you'd say as a team owner "stfu and sit down clown".

[CobraCommander]

According to all sources "the people" = Nico Harrison. He didn't consult with anyone in the organization. And nothing of what came out so far justifies this, so no benefit of the doubt.

But does a billion dollar business let anyone but the owner make a decision of this magnitude without communicating with other people? I don’t know - I have been in the corp world for a long time, and I have never seen anyone not named the owner make a decision of this level that will change the fundamental business strategy for a decade in isolation. I think Nico is lying about not talking to anyone to protect the guilty -

Companies love meetings- and I’m sure there were meetings- If yall think Nico did this alone, then Dallas is indeed the dumbest billion dollar business on earth

This is being confirmed by beat writers and their sources in the org, apparently. Even Mark Cuban was stunned.
Everything is pointing at the notion that Nico went rogue and make this call on his own, while the new ownership just gave him full authority.
Hence this is not about "The Mavs know Luka better than anybody" but "how much do we trust this guy's judgement".
Once again, for what we've seen so far about Luka a trade like this is ridiculous, so zero benefit of the doubt.

you really buying that LOL

NO ONE HAS THAT POWER....the Owner could say HELLLLL NO at the last moment and cancel the Trade at the last second.

lets be clear to you guys that don't work in big corp- 300-500+ million dollar asset (Luka is worth WAYYYYY more than his contract just like Lebron and every other superstar) is something that lawyers on both sides have and owners on both sides need to sign off to make SURE there isn't nothing illegal. hell the mavs can fail AD during the health check for ANYTHING if they didn't want this deal to go down.. NICO and the MAVS are doing the right thing by making this SOUND like a NICO issue...but the guys on this board that work in banking, business, private equity and or deal with M&A, they know this is pretty much impossible to be done by a rouge GM. the owners and the boards always have a final say when this much money is in play. Consider this...the trade isn't done on a handshake...once the deal started being worked the mavs and lakers "deal teams" started going over the contract details.


you guys really sound naive about one man having this much power- can you imagine if someone in cleveland tried to trade 25 year old Lebron out of Cleveland...you think the owners wouldn't have something to say about it...

man most of y'all married MFers don't realize you can't sell your house without your wife's signature...hell you can't even sell your car in many states without your wife signing off. OH and that goes for BUYING A HOUSE TOO...you cant do that without your spouse...but y'all think a multi billion dollar business letting one dude move a 500 million dollar asset over coffee with his BEST FRIEND....

if that really happen someone needs to get Marios tall green brother to deal with Nico for crushing a cities fan base and handing the lakers 3 chips and 3 mvps

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Luka don't look that fat to me...

[Else_where]

this is the saddest i've ever seen any player look because they had to play for the lakers.

he should be sad....he should feel embarrassed if he KNOWS he was a jerk to the mavs OR he should feel betrayed by the Mavs if he wasn't a jerk.

where is this he was a jerk, alcoholic etc bulk **** coming from ffs? Yeah he was a scoring champion who was All NBA and took the team to finals as a **** alcoholic? Every fan in Dallas likes him, every teammate likes him. Cuban, Dirk etc all love him.

[G R E Y]

Read on Twitter

Luka's going to eat Dallas alive, spit them out, chew some more before spitting them out again and then point to Manchurian Candidate GM every time for the next eight years.

[Else_where]

Read on Twitter

Luka's going to eat Dallas alive, spit them out, chew some more before spitting them out again and then point to Manchurian Candidate GM every time for the next eight years.

I hope he averages 100-20-20 against them. And I am a Warriors fan who hate the Lakers

[G R E Y]

this is the saddest i've ever seen any player look because they had to play for the lakers.

he should be sad....he should feel embarrassed if he KNOWS he was a jerk to the mavs OR he should feel betrayed by the Mavs if he wasn't a jerk.

where is this he was a jerk, alcoholic etc bulk **** coming from ffs? Yeah he was a scoring champion who was All NBA and took the team to finals as a **** alcoholic? Every fan in Dallas likes him, every teammate likes him. Cuban, Dirk etc all love him.

Yep.

Read on Twitter

Manchurian Candidate GM removed all those close to Luka en route to this final step. Two weeks my ass. Then brought in 'his guy' AD.

[Else_where]

and why does Pelinka dress like a boy band dancer ffs?

[dsg2003mach1]

Im gonna laugh my ass off when this is irrelevant because both teams make the playoffs but both of these guys are out injured.


(not that I want anyone to get hurt but the odds of this happening seem pretty decent)

[Else_where]

We as neutral fans are not only pissed because Nico **** up a great love story of Luka-Dallas, but made the Lakers relevant again when they were to be dead and buried.

[Bob Ross]

I hate the fkn lakers

[dWadeOwnzYou]

I find it interesting none of his Mavs teammates come to his defense or shown concern/farewell afterward....but, the rest of the world is on his side.

[CobraCommander]

he should be sad....he should feel embarrassed if he KNOWS he was a jerk to the mavs OR he should feel betrayed by the Mavs if he wasn't a jerk.

where is this he was a jerk, alcoholic etc bulk **** coming from ffs? Yeah he was a scoring champion who was All NBA and took the team to finals as a **** alcoholic? Every fan in Dallas likes him, every teammate likes him. Cuban, Dirk etc all love him.

Yep.

Read on Twitter

Manchurian Candidate GM removed all those close to Luka en route to this final step. Two weeks my ass. Then brought in 'his guy' AD.

we know Luka def has anger management issues...maybe a drinking issue...maybe a conditioning issue...maybe maybe maybe he was a A-hole at the mavs facility - the only teammateI know that loves him is Kyrie...other guys respect him...but you don't hear them saying they love him. We have seen Luka Mean Mug his teammates for missing bunnies...

but again...I don't know how bad Luka would have to be to trade him.... especially considering these are the same Mavs that picked up Kyrie after NIKE canceled him for antisemitism...but somehow Luka was too risky?? Keep in mind Kyrie wasn't a risk in the right environment but NIKE dropped Kyrie when his shoes were selling out....

if Nico walked in and asked to trade Luka I would say give me a second....then pull this up and say. what the eff did you say...

[CobraCommander]

I find it interesting none of his Mavs teammates come to his defense or shown concern/farewell afterward....but, the rest of the world is on his side.

what exactly can they say? "Luka aint an alcoholic overweight hard to coach jerk that Nico said he was and they they would have given Luka that the 360 million".

crazy thing is Kyrie a laker next year...book it....