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2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1401 » by TeamTragic » Wed Feb 5, 2025 2:41 am

kennydorglas wrote:Please can we just forget that **** KD trade really happened?


If this trade goes down then yes.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1402 » by garrick » Wed Feb 5, 2025 2:48 am

NBA's New CBA Reducing Number Of 'True Max Salary Players'
Feb 4, 2025 11:20 AM

NBA's New CBA Reducing Number Of 'True Max Salary Players'
The NBA and NBPA avoided a hard cap with its latest collective bargaining agreement, but the environment has severely restricted how teams allocate resources due to the onerous first and second apron and the penalties they entail. Not only are many middle class players impacted, but it is already creating a situation where the number of players who are thought of as worthy of a max contract has been reduced.


"With the new rules, we have to understand there are probably only about 10 true max salary players in the league," said one longtime executive to ESPN.

Without even needing to be free agents, the NBA has demonstrated how it now values the likes of Brandon Ingram, Karl-Anthony Towns, Julius Randle and Zach LaVine. The New Orleans Pelicans and Ingram were unable to agree to a contract extension and they have also found his trade market limited due to concerns from other teams on his next contract.

Even the Dallas Mavericks were as afraid of offering a five-year, $345 million supermax contract extension to the Dallas Mavericks as they were that he'd turn it down and request a trade. The Philadelphia 76ers signed Joel Embiid and Paul George to max contracts this past offseason and both appear to be potentially perilous due to their injury concerns.


The Sacramento Kings are believed to also have had concerns about signing De'Aaron Fox to his max extension this offseason.

NBA players with either 10 years of service or who make an All-NBA team while on their second contract with the team that signed them to that deal can sign for up to 35 percent of the salary cap.


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Here we are with Ishbia trying to get around the 2nd apron rules getting 3 max players while the rest of the league is trying very hard not to get into the 2nd apron.

All the new CBA rules are in place to punish stupid owners like Ishbia who seem to think throwing money at players is a winning recipe, even GSW won by smart drafting and signing key vets and not simply having the highest payroll in the league.

Has there ever been a more stupid owner in the league? :banghead:
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1403 » by Calvin Klein » Wed Feb 5, 2025 2:49 am

Hopefully KD is gone by Thursday but with ishbia I don’t think a proper rebuild will ever happen. Such a complete moron
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1404 » by BobbieL » Wed Feb 5, 2025 2:54 am

Calvin Klein wrote:Hopefully KD is gone by Thursday but with ishbia I don’t think a proper rebuild will ever happen. Such a complete moron


He would be too impatient for a true rebuild

Still - seems like GSW wants Durant per Siegel
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1405 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:00 am

Calvin Klein wrote:Hopefully KD is gone by Thursday but with ishbia I don’t think a proper rebuild will ever happen. Such a complete moron


Beal and kD are pretty much out the door. Incoming Butler, Draymond, Payton, possibly another Warrior player & picks. Should be a great day for the Suns!
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1406 » by matt131 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:00 am

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Post#1407 » by BobbieL » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:06 am

matt131 wrote:
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It’s happening
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1408 » by sunskerr » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:14 am

They're gonna trade KD for 3 quarters aren't they...our draft picks are gonna be gone and we ain't getting any back, or Kuminga. Basically we're spending our 2nd best asset to get no assets in return.

Just saying. Ill be happy if it's a future-oriented package but we know who our owner and GM are. They don't learn. Just not that type of persons.

And Ish is probably looking to steal headlines away from Pelinka/Luka so he'll be extra motivated to do something stupid to get the spotlight.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1409 » by TeamTragic » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:17 am

Why do you care? You wanted KD gone right?
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1410 » by BobbieL » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:18 am

sunskerr wrote:They're gonna trade KD for 3 quarters aren't they...our draft picks are gonna be gone and we ain't getting any back, or Kuminga. Basically we're spending our 2nd best asset to get no assets in return.

Just saying. Ill be happy if it's a future-oriented package but we know who our owner and GM are. They don't learn. Just not that type of persons.

And Ish is probably looking to steal headlines away from Pelinka/Luka so he'll be extra motivated to do something stupid to get the spotlight.



If they trade KD - need draft picks back m


Hopefully GSW gets desperate

Could GSW get both Butler and KD
Trade Dray to suns with Kuminga and picks

Trade Wiggins to Miami
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1411 » by TeamTragic » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:20 am

Butler is not going to the Warriors.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1412 » by Qwigglez » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:21 am

sunskerr wrote:They're gonna trade KD for 3 quarters aren't they...our draft picks are gonna be gone and we ain't getting any back, or Kuminga. Basically we're spending our 2nd best asset to get no assets in return.

Just saying. Ill be happy if it's a future-oriented package but we know who our owner and GM are. They don't learn. Just not that type of persons.

And Ish is probably looking to steal headlines away from Pelinka/Luka so he'll be extra motivated to do something stupid to get the spotlight.



We'll end up trading our 1st round picks because at this point it's just habitual for Ishbia and the front office :lol:
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1413 » by BobbieL » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:26 am

Qwigglez wrote:
sunskerr wrote:They're gonna trade KD for 3 quarters aren't they...our draft picks are gonna be gone and we ain't getting any back, or Kuminga. Basically we're spending our 2nd best asset to get no assets in return.

Just saying. Ill be happy if it's a future-oriented package but we know who our owner and GM are. They don't learn. Just not that type of persons.

And Ish is probably looking to steal headlines away from Pelinka/Luka so he'll be extra motivated to do something stupid to get the spotlight.



We'll end up trading our 1st round picks because at this point it's just habitual for Ishbia and the front office :lol:


Somehow - this will be the case. Even trading Durant they will somehow not get back FRPs but trade them
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1414 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:29 am

BobbieL wrote:
sunskerr wrote:They're gonna trade KD for 3 quarters aren't they...our draft picks are gonna be gone and we ain't getting any back, or Kuminga. Basically we're spending our 2nd best asset to get no assets in return.

Just saying. Ill be happy if it's a future-oriented package but we know who our owner and GM are. They don't learn. Just not that type of persons.

And Ish is probably looking to steal headlines away from Pelinka/Luka so he'll be extra motivated to do something stupid to get the spotlight.



If they trade KD - need draft picks back m


Hopefully GSW gets desperate

Could GSW get both Butler and KD
Trade Dray to suns with Kuminga and picks

Trade Wiggins to Miami

I just can't see that happening. We've been going HARD at Jimmy and to come out at the end of the trade deadline without Butler AND KD just isn't an position I could see Ishbia agreeing with.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1415 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:34 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
sunskerr wrote:They're gonna trade KD for 3 quarters aren't they...our draft picks are gonna be gone and we ain't getting any back, or Kuminga. Basically we're spending our 2nd best asset to get no assets in return.

Just saying. Ill be happy if it's a future-oriented package but we know who our owner and GM are. They don't learn. Just not that type of persons.

And Ish is probably looking to steal headlines away from Pelinka/Luka so he'll be extra motivated to do something stupid to get the spotlight.



If they trade KD - need draft picks back m


Hopefully GSW gets desperate

Could GSW get both Butler and KD
Trade Dray to suns with Kuminga and picks

Trade Wiggins to Miami

I just can't see that happening. We've been going HARD at Jimmy and to come out at the end of the trade deadline without Butler AND KD just isn't an position I could see Ishbia agreeing with.


Maybe KD to Miami for Butler, Ware and Jovic?
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1416 » by TeamTragic » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:36 am

Ishbia wants Kumi/Green/picks for KD.

Butler must be a separate trade.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1417 » by KdoubleDees23 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 am

KD deleted all suns stuff
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1418 » by TeamTragic » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:KD deleted all suns stuff


OH ****

:o :o :o
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1419 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 am

TeamTragic wrote:Ishbia wants Kumi/Green/picks for KD.

Butler must be a separate trade.


If we send Nurk to Miami and GS sends Wiggins the numbers should work. Picks go to Miami
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1420 » by MrMiyagi » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 am

KD for Luka
SHAZAM!

Suns traded Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder and 4 1st round picks and a swap so some Vegas Bookies would like us.

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