2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

SunsRback4Good · Post #1441 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:04 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Dr Manute wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:KD for Zion

Would not work under the new CBA because of the weight discrepancy.

Zion couldn't fit in the 1st apron let alone the 2nd

You’re a joke master all hail to lilfishi. :rocking:

TeamTragic · Post #1442 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:05 am

bullsaficianado wrote:
DRK wrote:Trading Durant would be a great way to kick start a retool. As good as he is, he is a ticking time bomb at 36 years old.

Booker and Beal is not a bad 1-2 punch at all, with whatever pieces we can get back.

You forgot to add Butler. No way Ishbia trades KD without some incentive he is getting Butler, Kuminga and Green back. I know I wouldn't. Not sure why Warriors would do this it makes their team worse for the rest of the season. Of course it also benefits them for next season they can retool around KD and Curry.

I would be fine without Green or flipping him to a different team.

matt131 · Post #1443 » by **matt131** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:08 am

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TeamTragic · Post #1444 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:10 am

matt131 wrote:

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This better be a massive haul for KD.

Beal the most selfish prick in the NBA.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1445 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:10 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Book/Jimmy/KumBucket/Green(PG)/Richards
Beal off the bench

Is it a big stepdown from what we have now...?

Give and take in some areas we'd get better and in others a bit worse. This team would be pretty strong defensively, and somewhat more athletic and physical. But obviously worse offensively. And smaller too. Little 3 or prowess too.

Hard to say if we'd be much better either given Butler's age and Green's decline. But if we are consistent bringing in some young athletic, hungry talent, then we could maybe sustain a 6-8 range team until the talent develops and offers greater impact.

We're probably more balanced on both ends of the court but we do lose that offensive in KD....not that we're very punchy right now as a team though. I dunno, I don't hate the line up but I feel like giving up KD for essentially Kuminga is not great in my view. Will need to see what kind of drat capital is involved although I doubt it's a bounty.

True!
I think it'd have to be 2 picks coming back to be amenable honestly. Even with Kuminga as a centerpiece which personally, I don't really care about that much. The GS 27' 1st and GS 29' 1st would be mandatory for thos trade, otherwise, I'd just prefer to send him to Denver or Memphis honestly. To me personally,
for sure a solid piece. But I'd prefer something like:

Green/ Payton 2nd / Looney/ Kuminga/ TJD/ GS 27' 1st/ GS 29' 1st. :nod:

Post #1446 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:11 am

matt131 wrote:

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I don't get it...

1. I thought Jimmy wanted to play in Phoenix with KD and Book
2. Ishbia really essentially trading KD for Jimmy, not pairing them up
3. Seems like pretty poor use of KD's remaining value

bullsaficianado · Post #1447 » by **bullsaficianado** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:11 am

TeamTragic wrote:
bullsaficianado wrote:
DRK wrote:Trading Durant would be a great way to kick start a retool. As good as he is, he is a ticking time bomb at 36 years old.

Booker and Beal is not a bad 1-2 punch at all, with whatever pieces we can get back.

You forgot to add Butler. No way Ishbia trades KD without some incentive he is getting Butler, Kuminga and Green back. I know I wouldn't. Not sure why Warriors would do this it makes their team worse for the rest of the season. Of course it also benefits them for next season they can retool around KD and Curry.

I would be fine without Green or flipping him to a different team.

Why? what is the one problem this team has been having. Yeah rebounding the ball. He can rebound. He's a champ for a reason.

TeamTragic · Post #1448 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:12 am

bullsaficianado wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
bullsaficianado wrote:
You forgot to add Butler. No way Ishbia trades KD without some incentive he is getting Butler, Kuminga and Green back. I know I wouldn't. Not sure why Warriors would do this it makes their team worse for the rest of the season. Of course it also benefits them for next season they can retool around KD and Curry.

I would be fine without Green or flipping him to a different team.

Why? what is the one problem this team has been having. Yeah rebounding the ball. He can rebound. He's a champ for a reason.

I would rather have Looney but maybe I'm clueless.

bullsaficianado · Post #1449 » by **bullsaficianado** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:13 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
matt131 wrote:

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I don't get it...

1. I thought Jimmy wanted to play in Phoenix with KD and Book
2. Ishbia really essentially trading KD for Jimmy, not pairing them up
3. Seems like pretty poor use of KD's remaining value

I would rather not trade Durant and I think it will be a mistake but it will have to be quite the Kings ransom to make it worth our while. Warriors pretty desperate right now.

Post #1450 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:14 am

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Yeah, I'm not sure how Butler solves the problem by replacing him with KD. Suns get even smaller. :lol:

Post #1451 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:16 am

bullsaficianado wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
matt131 wrote:

Read on Twitter
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I don't get it...

1. I thought Jimmy wanted to play in Phoenix with KD and Book
2. Ishbia really essentially trading KD for Jimmy, not pairing them up
3. Seems like pretty poor use of KD's remaining value

I would rather not trade Durant and I think it will be a mistake but it will have to be quite the Kings ransom to make it worth our while. Warriors pretty desperate right now.

I'm completely open with trading KD. I've said that before. The only ones who's untouchable in my view is Dunn and Book. But if we're trading KD, I don't want it for dudes of his age bracket looking to get paid.

Post #1452 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:18 am

Qwigglez wrote:

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Yeah, I'm not sure how Butler solves the problem by replacing him with KD. Suns get even smaller.

100%

You pair him with KD, that's the play.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1453 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:19 am

TeamTragic wrote:
bullsaficianado wrote:
DRK wrote:Trading Durant would be a great way to kick start a retool. As good as he is, he is a ticking time bomb at 36 years old.

Booker and Beal is not a bad 1-2 punch at all, with whatever pieces we can get back.

You forgot to add Butler. No way Ishbia trades KD without some incentive he is getting Butler, Kuminga and Green back. I know I wouldn't. Not sure why Warriors would do this it makes their team worse for the rest of the season. Of course it also benefits them for next season they can retool around KD and Curry.

I would be fine without Green or flipping him to a different team.

I'd agree with you about preferring to flip Green elsewhere. I'd look to flip him to Memphis for Smart/ GG Jackson/ Wells/ MEM 1st.

Or maybe to Detroit for Stewart/ Beasley/ Sasser/Reed/ Detroit 26' 1st/ TOR 25' 2nd. But probably to Memphis in a package overall. :wink:

sunsbum · Post #1454 » by **sunsbum** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:19 am

Qwigglez wrote:

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Yeah, I'm not sure how Butler solves the problem by replacing him with KD. Suns get even smaller.

who’s this knob?

Sunsdeuce · Post #1455 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:20 am

Qwigglez wrote:

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Yeah, I'm not sure how Butler solves the problem by replacing him with KD. Suns get even smaller.

KD is worth hella more than just Jimmy butler. If this is real, this is a beyond moronic trade!!!!

Post #1456 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:20 am

Okay hear me out, it's basically the same exact trade I've mentioned before, but Suns keep Beal since he won't waive his NTC.

Suns get:
Nic Claxton
Cam Johnson

Warriors get:
Kevin Durant

Nets get:
Wiggins
Schroder
GP2
2025 Warriors 1st,
3 Suns 1st

Booker / Beal / Dunn / CamJo / Claxton

DRK · Post #1457 » by **DRK** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:21 am

Kuminga, or Pods, with Butler and some picks would be a good haul for KD who is already 36...

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1458 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:21 am

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Sunsdeuce · Post #1459 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:22 am

Qwigglez wrote:Okay hear me out, it's basically the same exact trade I've mentioned before, but Suns keep Beal since he won't waive his NTC.

Suns get:
Nic Claxton
Cam Johnson

Warriors get:
Kevin Durant

Nets get:
Wiggins
Schroder
GP2
2025 Warriors 1st,
3 Suns 1st

Booker / Beal / Dunn / CamJo / Claxton

Too much to unpack but this is an easy Hell to the No!

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1460 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:22 am

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