Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Giannis Thoughts on Middleton Trade Page 90

jschligs · Post #1481 » by **jschligs** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:23 am

MickeyDavis wrote:The only meetings I have the rest of the week are 12:30 tomorrow and 2:00 Thursday. You can bet something will go down then.

Bruh I'd kill for that type of week, but mine is usually meetings 6 of the 8 hours. So I almost always miss big trades. Won't say I don't check RealGM during meetings though.

tedbrogen · Post #1482 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:23 am

If Beal/Booker/Butler = contender then Dame/Butler/Giannis also = contender.

Or is it really the Suns owner promised Butler a three year max deal and much like Beal he also wants to retire in Arizona?

German Athens · Post #1483 » by **German Athens** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:24 am

Phoenix will get assets for giving up KD, so they’ll get Jimmy plus 1sts which they can use to retool their roster.

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mlloyd10 · Post #1484 » by **mlloyd10** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:26 am

Just dont see how the Warriors can get KD $$$ wise

Post #1485 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:30 am

msiris wrote:Why would Suns want Butler without KD? We know who is better.

It would be KD and Nurkic outbound and more coming to PHX like Kuminga, Draymond, Podz, etc.

tedbrogen · Post #1486 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:36 am

mlloyd10 wrote:Just dont see how the Warriors can get KD $$$ wise

Yeah, Wiggins/Kuminga/Anderson gets them within $8M or so of KD’s salary but assuming they are not moving Green, they would HAVE to move GPII, Moody, or Hield to get enough salary going out. They can’t trade Dennis.

Plossum · Post #1487 » by **Plossum** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:38 am

mlloyd10 wrote:Just dont see how the Warriors can get KD $$$ wise

Can GSW send back multiple pieces or can they only do a one for one trade given Phoenix is a second apron team?

EasyE31 · Post #1488 » by **EasyE31** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:38 am

Ok everyone... I've completed my magnum opus of 2025 deadline trades. This is my final answer:

Bucks get: Claxton, Kuzma, Aaron Wiggins, & Dayron Sharpe
Nets get: Brook, Wright, future OKC 1st
Thunder get: Portis, Baldwin Jr, Bucks 2031 1st
Wizards get: Middleton, Future OKC 1st
Pistons get: Pat, 2 future OKC 2nds

This works on Fanspo, gets the Bucks below the 2nd apron, and leaves enough room for the Bucks to convert Rollins. It uses up all your draft capital except the 2031 2nd but Claxton, Kuzma, and Wiggins are all on pretty attractive multi year deals.

Dame/Rollins
Wiggins/Green/GTJ
Kuzma/AJAX
Giannis/Prince
Claxton/Sharpe

Post #1489 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:40 am

Suns are $30 million (!) over the second apron and can obviously only send out KD. Warriors can aggregate. So this deal would work. Wondering how Miami factors in though. Heat are first apron.

emunney · Post #1490 » by **emunney** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:57 am

tedbrogen wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Just dont see how the Warriors can get KD $$$ wise

Yeah, Wiggins/Kuminga/Anderson gets them within $8M or so of KD’s salary but assuming they are not moving Green, they would HAVE to move GPII, Moody, or Hield to get enough salary going out. They can’t trade Dennis.

Schroeder is eligible to be traded starting tomorrow though.

tedbrogen · Post #1491 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 4:58 am

emunney wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Just dont see how the Warriors can get KD $$$ wise

Yeah, Wiggins/Kuminga/Anderson gets them within $8M or so of KD’s salary but assuming they are not moving Green, they would HAVE to move GPII, Moody, or Hield to get enough salary going out. They can’t trade Dennis.

Schroeder is eligible to be traded starting tomorrow though.

It’s been two months since that trade?

htr · Post #1492 » by **htr** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:44 am

Midds patc Bobby and aj Johnson along with 2031 first which would be needed, works for Collins Sexton and Kessler. Ainge would prob do ir with the 31 pick. This deal totally rejuvenates us. Plus we can then deal Brook for whatever too. Thoughts??

RiotPunch · Post #1493 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:59 am

htr wrote:Midds patc Bobby and aj Johnson along with 2031 first which would be needed, works for Collins Sexton and Kessler. Ainge would prob do ir with the 31 pick. This deal totally rejuvenates us. Plus we can then deal Brook for whatever too. Thoughts??

Leaves us with no wings or versatility up front. Pretty brutal. Would need to follow up with a Dame trade.

Plossum · Post #1494 » by **Plossum** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:00 am

htr wrote:Midds patc Bobby and aj Johnson along with 2031 first which would be needed, works for Collins Sexton and Kessler. Ainge would prob do ir with the 31 pick. This deal totally rejuvenates us. Plus we can then deal Brook for whatever too. Thoughts??

This would be way too much to give from our side. I think we’re prob a better team just keeping Midds and Bobbo. But to give up the pick and AJ too? I’d want a much bigger haul than two pretty ho hum guys.

emunney · Post #1495 » by **emunney** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:41 am

Plossum wrote:
htr wrote:Midds patc Bobby and aj Johnson along with 2031 first which would be needed, works for Collins Sexton and Kessler. Ainge would prob do ir with the 31 pick. This deal totally rejuvenates us. Plus we can then deal Brook for whatever too. Thoughts??

This would be way too much to give from our side. I think we’re prob a better team just keeping Midds and Bobbo. But to give up the pick and AJ too? I’d want a much bigger haul than two pretty ho hum guys.

A very bad trade for a bad player and an ok player, neither of whom are good fits.

Kessler would be a warm body as a backup big but have no interest in Sexton, certainly am not giving up rotation players for them. Not to mention that we wouldn't be gaining frontcourt depth due to sending out Bobby. Khris could play 15mpg in the playoffs and he'd still be worth more than both of those dudes put together. Bobby also substantially better than either of them.

I don't particularly care about AJ or the pick, but I'm not giving them away in service of getting dumber and worse.

drew881 · Post #1496 » by **drew881** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:46 am

Trading Bobby to SLC would be dirty, and I’m not talking about from a basketball perspective. Bobby in SLC is a reality show I would watch.

emunney · Post #1497 » by **emunney** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:53 am

Also what would Ainge want with Khris and Bobby? This is a team that's deliberately feeding minutes to a spectacularly unready Cody Williams whenever he's healthy enough. They want to stink.

Wisky4life · Post #1498 » by **Wisky4life** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:59 am

Someone posted similar but makes sense.

Bucks: KD
.....get under tax and superstar
Suns: Butler
......saves some money and new superstar
Heat: Mids, Lopez and Bucks 1st
......gets something and can still be in playoffs
Det: Beauchamp, Burks and some 2nds
...bonus junk

Sign a buyout Center to replace Lopez

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Plossum · Post #1499 » by **Plossum** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:08 am

Wisky4life wrote:Someone posted similar but makes sense.

Bucks: KD
.....get under tax and superstar
Suns: Butler
......saves some money and new superstar
Heat: Mids, Lopez and Bucks 1st
......gets something and can still be in playoffs
Det: Beauchamp, Burks and some 2nds
...bonus junk

Sign a buyout Center to replace Lopez

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I don’t think this is legal given we’re a second apron team. I think we’d need to dump Pat first to like Detroit before we could aggregate any salaries in a trade.

RiotPunch · Post #1500 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:42 am

Wisky4life wrote:Someone posted similar but makes sense.

Bucks: KD
.....get under tax and superstar
Suns: Butler
......saves some money and new superstar
Heat: Mids, Lopez and Bucks 1st
......gets something and can still be in playoffs
Det: Beauchamp, Burks and some 2nds
...bonus junk

Sign a buyout Center to replace Lopez

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Actually makes less than zero sense for Phoenix.