Luka AD trade thread Part II

[Kilmonger]

The Lakers never listened to LeBron other than getting Bronny which any team with half a brain cell would've done. Even the AD trade was another no brainer. The rest of LeBron's tenure they barely cared about his demands. The biggest proof was breaking up the 2021 team. LeBron was adamantly against that.

Aside from trading for AD and later WB, getting JJ in as the head coach. Oh and using their 2nd rounded to draft his son who's clearly is not NBA ready. And telling other teams that if they draft him Bronny will not sign and go play in the AUS league.

There's like maybe 10 second round players in the last 20 years that turned out to be stars in the league dude. Even the rare cases like Jokic weren't the **** 55th pick you're reaaalllyyy mad at the 55th pick? NBA fans are so hilarious

[Kilmonger]

There's no chance the Lakers are done in this trade market. They're most likely going to get one or two bigs before Thursday.

[Noctilux]

The JFK assassination was the second worst event in Dallas history.

[did_ya_know000]

AD seems happy to be leaving LA. I think he got tired of being the scapegoat and the 2nd banana. I think he got sick of LeBron, Klutch, and everything about the Lakers.

AD is still with Klutch though.

Wonder if Bron tries to get Luka tio sign with Klutch Sports

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[Dirk2Doncic]

I watched the Luka Lakers presser. Luka is heartbroken. He wanted to be in Dallas.

Nico Harrison = corporate maggot, and ownership that signed off on it.

[CobraCommander]

This is being confirmed by beat writers and their sources in the org, apparently. Even Mark Cuban was stunned.
Everything is pointing at the notion that Nico went rogue and make this call on his own, while the new ownership just gave him full authority.
Hence this is not about "The Mavs know Luka better than anybody" but "how much do we trust this guy's judgement".
Once again, for what we've seen so far about Luka a trade like this is ridiculous, so zero benefit of the doubt.

you really buying that LOL

NO ONE HAS THAT POWER....the Owner could say HELLLLL NO at the last moment and cancel the Trade at the last second.

lets be clear to you guys that don't work in big corp- 300-500+ million dollar asset (Luka is worth WAYYYYY more than his contract just like Lebron and every other superstar) is something that lawyers on both sides have and owners on both sides need to sign off to make SURE there isn't nothing illegal. hell the mavs can fail AD during the health check for ANYTHING if they didn't want this deal to go down.. NICO and the MAVS are doing the right thing by making this SOUND like a NICO issue...but the guys on this board that work in banking, business, private equity and or deal with M&A, they know this is pretty much impossible to be done by a rouge GM. the owners and the boards always have a final say when this much money is in play. Consider this...the trade isn't done on a handshake...once the deal started being worked the mavs and lakers "deal teams" started going over the contract details.


you guys really sound naive about one man having this much power- can you imagine if someone in cleveland tried to trade 25 year old Lebron out of Cleveland...you think the owners wouldn't have something to say about it...

man most of y'all married MFers don't realize you can't sell your house without your wife's signature...hell you can't even sell your car in many states without your wife signing off. OH and that goes for BUYING A HOUSE TOO...you cant do that without your spouse...but y'all think a multi billion dollar business letting one dude move a 500 million dollar asset over coffee with his BEST FRIEND....

if that really happen someone needs to get Marios tall green brother to deal with Nico for crushing a cities fan base and handing the lakers 3 chips and 3 mvps

I am not naive, I have worked for 16 years for a company with a 80b market cap, reaching Senior Director level
But that's not how NBA teams work.
They are more similar to some mid sized privately owned companies, with the founder making all the calls , even the most irrational ones. Limited set of procedures, no steong internal audit. This has been told to me when I had some connections a few decades ago of people working in the League, but also confirmed last year or so by John Hollinger during a Twitter Spaces.

What likely happened is that the only people.who new abiut this thing were Rob, Nico, Jeannie and the mobster running the Mavs. More and this would have leaked.
Dumont, according to all accounts, is not into sport and only care about gambling rules in Texas. So it's very possible the perfect storm was created and Nico could make this amazing call basically on his own.

You a sr director in a company that size and you think billions dollar basketball teams run like family businesses-



Tell me you work in the shipping and receiving department without telling me you in shipping a receiving- lol j/k

Our market cap a little bigger and my title a little diffent but I’ll tell you this - we ain’t no GM making a move that could crater the whole gig without a few dozen meetings - Strat sessions - contingency planning sessions- market analysis- marketing meetings etc-

The Mavs def had some guys talking about how this is going to hurt ticket sales- season tickets tanked - the only way you do this is if you find the bodies in Luka’s closet and you can’t dissolve them OR you think you winning a ring this year or next - but you sacrificed a decade after you win the ring to mediocre performances and low ticket sales - where with Luka you could get a ring and get tickets - Someone other than Nico signed off on this - and decided this- and Nico gets paid to be the face of this decision should it blow up

[CobraCommander]

I find it interesting none of his Mavs teammates come to his defense or shown concern/farewell afterward....but, the rest of the world is on his side.

what exactly can they say? "Luka aint an alcoholic overweight hard to coach jerk that Nico said he was and they they would have given Luka that the 360 million".

crazy thing is Kyrie a laker next year...book it....

I'm not talking about his physical downfall and the details that comes with it, but more like a showing of emotional support. None of them came out to express, that they were as shocked as the rest of us, or to wish him luck and that he was great to play for...thing of that nature.

Oh I agree

[CBS7]

just gotta vent, it still sucks and stings.

the fans and remaining players are the real losers of the trade

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

The more I hear about this, watching the Nico Harrison presser... I think Rob Pelinka just took advantage of his old friend from Nike.


- It appears to me, Nico Harrison is not a very bright man.
- Nico looked up to and owed a lot to Pelinka, for the whole Nike thing, over 20+ years of friendship
- Fast forward to modern times, Pelinka probably was sowing seeds into Nico's head for a long time now. Asking Nico to casual lunches, planting seeds of discord. "Luka has to buy into your culture, Nico! You're the GM, is Luka still drinking? wow, so disrespectful"
- Nico himself said, this whole thing began a month ago when Pelinka and Nico are having lunch, and Pelinka asks, "Would you ever trade Luka?"

Look at how sinister this all is. Why would Pelinka ask this? He finessed his old friend, who admittedly doesn't seem very smart.

Then convinced Nico that this has to be kept under wraps, nobody can know. Nobody! Well duh, because if someone finds out, they'd tell Nico how ridiculous this is.

Nico then, after being thoroughly brainwashed by Pelinka, his long time friend and MENTOR at Nike.... he sells the idea to the owners.


PREDICTION : Nico Harrison is going to publicly regret this trade, and talk about Pelinka finessing him. I don't know when. But maybe in 2-3 years.

[CobraCommander]

Kyrie said he still grieving right now when discussing the Luka trade. - man the Mavs ownership really messed this up -


https://youtu.be/bDC8UXCggWU?si=URVUgS_cy5mVihLu

[K N U C K L E S]

What was that trade involving the Lakers that Stern or Silver vetoed 15 years ago or so? Why is this not being compared to that?

[Dirk2Doncic]

Kyrie said he still grieving right now when discussing the Luka trade. - man the Mavs ownership really messed this up -


https://youtu.be/bDC8UXCggWU?si=URVUgS_cy5mVihLu

Yep. Luka has always had plenty of teammates who like him.

He's from Slovenia, it's not going to look the same as 2 Americans from the streets.

Lebron loves him. Luka loves Lebron.

This speculation on Luka's likeability is hogwash. He's a fun kid with a fun personality. Lakers media will love him. He's fun to listen to in interviews.

This was a case of a ruthless, my way or the highway, corporate maggot you will bend to my culture or your out of here calling the shots and owners signing off on it. And the egomanic did not draft Luka, did not trade for Luka. Anthony Davis is Nico's guy, always has been, going back years.

This whole "conditioning" thing is sports bizzaro world. Shaq tried to talk some sense, like who gives a F if he's 5 1st team all NBA last 5 years. Shaq talked about how when he played what he did worked for him even if it wasn't what some wanted. Whatever Luka is doing is working for him

Luka missing time this year with injury is giving his body rest that would have benefited him and the Mavericks down the road this season.

[CobraCommander]

Kyrie said he still grieving right now when discussing the Luka trade. - man the Mavs ownership really messed this up -


https://youtu.be/bDC8UXCggWU?si=URVUgS_cy5mVihLu

Yep. Luka has always had plenty of teammates who like him.

He's from Slovenia, it's not going to look the same as 2 Americans from the streets.

Lebron loves him. Luka loves Lebron.

This speculation on Luka's likeability is hogwash. He's a fun kid with a fun personality. Lakers media will love him. He's fun to listen to in interviews.

This was a case of a ruthless, my way or the highway, corporate maggot you will bend to my culture or your out of here calling the shots and owners signing off on it. And the egomanic did not draft Luka, did not trade for Luka. Anthony Davis is Nico's guy, always has been, going back years.

This whole "conditioning" thing is sports bizzaro world. Shaq tried to talk some sense, like who gives a F if he's 5 1st team all NBA last 5 years. Shaq talked about how when he played what he did worked for him even if it wasn't what some wanted. Whatever Luka is doing is working for him

Luka missing time this year with injury is giving his body rest that would have benefited him and the Mavericks down the road this season.

It’s sadder for me because this the first time Kyrie has ever seemed happy and comfortable with his running mate. And kyrie said GREIVING that’s just freaking sad- I hope kyrie in LA next year with his boy.

It would be cool if the Mavs win this year for the fans and kyrie leaves for the lakers -

[California Gold]

What was that trade involving the Lakers that Stern or Silver vetoed 15 years ago or so? Why is this not being compared to that?

Stern only did that as an acting owner of the Hornets/Pelicans franchise. The league didn't step in. Basically would be the equivalent of Cuban stepping into Veto the trade if he was still a majority owner.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

What was that trade involving the Lakers that Stern or Silver vetoed 15 years ago or so? Why is this not being compared to that?

Stern only did that as an acting owner of the Hornets/Pelicans franchise. The league didn't step in. Basically would be the equivalent of Cuban stepping into Veto the trade if he was still a majority owner.

Funny thing about that

That CP3 veto'd trade was ANOTHER superstar being sent to the Lakers in a shady deal


And we all know how the Lakers and Klutch/Lebron tampered with AD on the Hornets

and Pau Gasol in 2008 for Kwame Brown

geez

[Ryoga Hibiki]

you really buying that LOL

NO ONE HAS THAT POWER....the Owner could say HELLLLL NO at the last moment and cancel the Trade at the last second.

lets be clear to you guys that don't work in big corp- 300-500+ million dollar asset (Luka is worth WAYYYYY more than his contract just like Lebron and every other superstar) is something that lawyers on both sides have and owners on both sides need to sign off to make SURE there isn't nothing illegal. hell the mavs can fail AD during the health check for ANYTHING if they didn't want this deal to go down.. NICO and the MAVS are doing the right thing by making this SOUND like a NICO issue...but the guys on this board that work in banking, business, private equity and or deal with M&A, they know this is pretty much impossible to be done by a rouge GM. the owners and the boards always have a final say when this much money is in play. Consider this...the trade isn't done on a handshake...once the deal started being worked the mavs and lakers "deal teams" started going over the contract details.


you guys really sound naive about one man having this much power- can you imagine if someone in cleveland tried to trade 25 year old Lebron out of Cleveland...you think the owners wouldn't have something to say about it...

man most of y'all married MFers don't realize you can't sell your house without your wife's signature...hell you can't even sell your car in many states without your wife signing off. OH and that goes for BUYING A HOUSE TOO...you cant do that without your spouse...but y'all think a multi billion dollar business letting one dude move a 500 million dollar asset over coffee with his BEST FRIEND....

if that really happen someone needs to get Marios tall green brother to deal with Nico for crushing a cities fan base and handing the lakers 3 chips and 3 mvps

I am not naive, I have worked for 16 years for a company with a 80b market cap, reaching Senior Director level
But that's not how NBA teams work.
They are more similar to some mid sized privately owned companies, with the founder making all the calls , even the most irrational ones. Limited set of procedures, no steong internal audit. This has been told to me when I had some connections a few decades ago of people working in the League, but also confirmed last year or so by John Hollinger during a Twitter Spaces.

What likely happened is that the only people.who new abiut this thing were Rob, Nico, Jeannie and the mobster running the Mavs. More and this would have leaked.
Dumont, according to all accounts, is not into sport and only care about gambling rules in Texas. So it's very possible the perfect storm was created and Nico could make this amazing call basically on his own.

You a sr director in a company that size and you think billions dollar basketball teams run like family businesses-



Tell me you work in the shipping and receiving department without telling me you in shipping a receiving- lol j/k

Our market cap a little bigger and my title a little diffent but I’ll tell you this - we ain’t no GM making a move that could crater the whole gig without a few dozen meetings - Strat sessions - contingency planning sessions- market analysis- marketing meetings etc-

The Mavs def had some guys talking about how this is going to hurt ticket sales- season tickets tanked - the only way you do this is if you find the bodies in Luka’s closet and you can’t dissolve them OR you think you winning a ring this year or next - but you sacrificed a decade after you win the ring to mediocre performances and low ticket sales - where with Luka you could get a ring and get tickets - Someone other than Nico signed off on this - and decided this- and Nico gets paid to be the face of this decision should it blow up

The thing is that you keep comparing a NBA team to companies that have a completely different corporate structure.
Sport teams are different, you definitely need the owner to approve a move, but then you don't need that many people involved. In particular if you want to to keep it secret.
What made this unique is that Dumont is not very involved.

Anyway, let's wait for extra details.

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bron handed a tremendous gift, hes retiring as a laker

[CobraCommander]

I am not naive, I have worked for 16 years for a company with a 80b market cap, reaching Senior Director level
But that's not how NBA teams work.
They are more similar to some mid sized privately owned companies, with the founder making all the calls , even the most irrational ones. Limited set of procedures, no steong internal audit. This has been told to me when I had some connections a few decades ago of people working in the League, but also confirmed last year or so by John Hollinger during a Twitter Spaces.

What likely happened is that the only people.who new abiut this thing were Rob, Nico, Jeannie and the mobster running the Mavs. More and this would have leaked.
Dumont, according to all accounts, is not into sport and only care about gambling rules in Texas. So it's very possible the perfect storm was created and Nico could make this amazing call basically on his own.

You a sr director in a company that size and you think billions dollar basketball teams run like family businesses-



Tell me you work in the shipping and receiving department without telling me you in shipping a receiving- lol j/k

Our market cap a little bigger and my title a little diffent but I’ll tell you this - we ain’t no GM making a move that could crater the whole gig without a few dozen meetings - Strat sessions - contingency planning sessions- market analysis- marketing meetings etc-

The Mavs def had some guys talking about how this is going to hurt ticket sales- season tickets tanked - the only way you do this is if you find the bodies in Luka’s closet and you can’t dissolve them OR you think you winning a ring this year or next - but you sacrificed a decade after you win the ring to mediocre performances and low ticket sales - where with Luka you could get a ring and get tickets - Someone other than Nico signed off on this - and decided this- and Nico gets paid to be the face of this decision should it blow up

The thing is that you keep comparing a NBA team to companies that have a completely different corporate structure.
Sport teams are different, you definitely need the owner to approve a move, but then you don't need that many people involved. In particular if you want to to keep it secret.
What made this unique is that Dumont is not very involved.

Anyway, let's wait for extra details.

https://youtu.be/UzNxr7JCoz0?si=b28FxU9HqVvshpO0

[Jcity08]

What was that trade involving the Lakers that Stern or Silver vetoed 15 years ago or so? Why is this not being compared to that?

Chris Paul and the NBA technically were owners of the New Orleans team until it could be sold.

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