2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

[Mr Puddles]

Okay hear me out, it's basically the same exact trade I've mentioned before, but Suns keep Beal since he won't waive his NTC.

Suns get:
Nic Claxton
Cam Johnson

Warriors get:
Kevin Durant

Nets get:
Wiggins
Schroder
GP2
2025 Warriors 1st,
3 Suns 1st

Booker / Beal / Dunn / CamJo / Claxton

Wait we're trading KD And three first rounders?

So basically we ended up trading Mikal Bridges and 7 first rounders for Nic Claxton?

[Bogyo]

I can't wait for JJ to lose another trade. Has he ever won one besides grandPaul?

He didn't even construct that trade. He merely signed off and brought it to Sarver. That was all on Paul and his people.

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Not only that, but he gave up a pick (picks?) for Paul, when he was only willing to come here, would have been an expiring, and to add insult to injury, OKC just got picks to take him off of Houston less than a year ago. FFS if JJ cant overpay he is not making a trade - its his fethis.

[Blonde]

So is GSW about to pull the heist of the century?

[sunskerr]

If you are trading KD than no point going after 35yo Butler. Such a directionless team. Watch them not get 1/3 of what they gave up to acquire him. If it's Butler than it's just an negative contract they will need picks to get rid of.

Oh you won't have to worry about attaching picks to get rid of Butler with this front office...

I can't wait for JJ to lose another trade. Has he ever won one besides grandPaul?

He didn't even construct that trade. He merely signed off and brought it to Sarver. That was all on Paul and his people.

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Not only that, but he gave up a pick (picks?) for Paul, when he was only willing to come here, would have been an expiring, and to add insult to injury, OKC just got picks to take him off of Houston less than a year ago. FFS if JJ cant overpay he is not making a trade - its his fethis.

I remember a few years ago an article about Jones "building good will" in trades a few years ago to keep relationships with other FOs by being, I suppose, not a hardliner in negotiations. Well that good will definitely keep GMs calling back... for free stuff.

Whose turn is it to shake the pick tree?

[Qwigglez]

Okay hear me out, it's basically the same exact trade I've mentioned before, but Suns keep Beal since he won't waive his NTC.

Suns get:
Nic Claxton
Cam Johnson

Warriors get:
Kevin Durant

Nets get:
Wiggins
Schroder
GP2
2025 Warriors 1st,
3 Suns 1st

Booker / Beal / Dunn / CamJo / Claxton

Wait we're trading KD And three first rounders?

So basically we ended up trading Mikal Bridges and 7 first rounders for Nic Claxton?

Yes. It was supposed to be funny.
Glad someone caught it

Sorry this deadline is humorous to me. I don't have a good feeling that the Suns front office will do what is best for the team.

Even funnier when you realize Suns could have drafted Claxton instead of Ty Jerome. Though... Ty Jerome is actually playing well now for the Cavs.

[SkyBill40]

If you are trading KD than no point going after 35yo Butler. Such a directionless team. Watch them not get 1/3 of what they gave up to acquire him. If it's Butler than it's just an negative contract they will need picks to get rid of.

Oh you won't have to worry about attaching picks to get rid of Butler with this front office...

He didn't even construct that trade. He merely signed off and brought it to Sarver. That was all on Paul and his people.

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Not only that, but he gave up a pick (picks?) for Paul, when he was only willing to come here, would have been an expiring, and to add insult to injury, OKC just got picks to take him off of Houston less than a year ago. FFS if JJ cant overpay he is not making a trade - its his fethis.

I remember a few years ago an article about Jones "building good will" in trades a few years ago to keep relationships with other FOs by being, I suppose, not a hardliner in negotiations. Well that good will definitely keep GMs calling back... for free stuff.

Whose turn is it to shake the pick tree?

I'm guessing GS.

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[bwgood77]

It’s so weird that KD has been so good yet it seems like he’s the center of everything that is miss-firing for the suns. I admittedly have watched maybe 10 games this year but I seriously cannot put my finger on why we are so bad besides the turnovers and the sloppy ball movement. Is this really all on KD?

We have been much better with KD on the court. I mean if we do trade KD we better be getting more than just Jimmy. And not Draymond. I think he is underrated but he makes a ton.

But Draymond and Butler set a FAR better tone about winning for the rest of the team than KD. I just can't believe we've sacrificed our future and all these picks.

I don't think the Suns would ever trade Book as it stands now, but I imagine if we just shuffle a bunch of old guys and get another below avg C, Book will want out within about a year. Definitely by next summer. I think he really wants to stay in Phx too, but should he stay if we are old and awful with no avenues to get better a year from now? Is it fair to him?

We just better add some picks in all of this and not trade a bunch. I know we will likely trade one or two that we have, but we better at least finish with a positive or at worst, neutral, on our picks, unless they could get us a real difference maker.

The Athletic says Houston now considering KD and were not before. Now I don't think we get our picks back for him. But would any young players if we can't get Thompson or Sengun be worth it? Like if we could get Smith, Eason and Green or something? I don't know if those salaries work, but that wouldn't be bad if we can't get any of our picks. Much prefer that than getting older...even though Jimmy would probably make us better than they would right now, even though if we are subtracting KD, I don't see how adding Jimmy and removing KD makes us better. We have zero frontcourt.

[bwgood77]

Okay hear me out, it's basically the same exact trade I've mentioned before, but Suns keep Beal since he won't waive his NTC.

Suns get:
Nic Claxton
Cam Johnson

Warriors get:
Kevin Durant

Nets get:
Wiggins
Schroder
GP2
2025 Warriors 1st,
3 Suns 1st

Booker / Beal / Dunn / CamJo / Claxton

Wait we're trading KD And three first rounders?

So basically we ended up trading Mikal Bridges and 7 first rounders for Nic Claxton?

LOL...and Crowder....5 2nds he went for.

[bwgood77]

So is GSW about to pull the heist of the century?

Well I think that happened earlier this week, and before that a couple years ago by the Nets.

[starbosa10]

KD has been our best performer but I can see trying to deal him while he still has time left on his contract. That being said it should absolutely only be to get younger/more picks. I don't see the point dealing KD for Jimmy who is also mid 30s and wanting a monster extension

[Slim Charless]

KD has been our best performer but I can see trying to deal him while he still has time left on his contract. That being said it should absolutely only be to get younger/more picks. I don't see the point dealing KD for Jimmy who is also mid 30s and wanting a monster extension

Okay hear me out, it's basically the same exact trade I've mentioned before, but Suns keep Beal since he won't waive his NTC.

Suns get:
Nic Claxton
Cam Johnson

Warriors get:
Kevin Durant

Nets get:
Wiggins
Schroder
GP2
2025 Warriors 1st,
3 Suns 1st

Booker / Beal / Dunn / CamJo / Claxton

Wait we're trading KD And three first rounders?

So basically we ended up trading Mikal Bridges and 7 first rounders for Nic Claxton?

LOL...and Crowder....5 2nds he went for.

Read on Twitter

Giggity.

[thamadkant]

1. KD for multiple low impact players from Warriors, Wiggins excepted, is a major fail. Especially since the players coming in aren't athletic bigs. Kuminga is dumb as a rock who is immensely athletic but lack basketball talent... he is a finisher who can be shut down easily by just letting him shoot.

2. If KD is traded out only to bring Butler in, leaving Suns with Booker, Butler and Beal, this scenario is still a fail. I love Butler, but KD is still a better scorer and a much needed player since he is 6'11 and can protect the rim occasionally as a skinny PF.

3. The only package that makes sense for KD is a way to recoup what was traded for him. So a young player and multiple first rounders. Rockets is the ONLY realistic team that meets this. Amen plus Suns three 1st rounders is a GOOD trade. Of course, Rockets wont do that.... so bargaining down to Amen and 2 first rounders and maybe a pick swap may be enough. This package is highly desirable.

4. Ishiba is behaving like he's playing NBA 2K GM mode...

[Mr Puddles]

KD has been our best performer but I can see trying to deal him while he still has time left on his contract. That being said it should absolutely only be to get younger/more picks. I don't see the point dealing KD for Jimmy who is also mid 30s and wanting a monster extension

Wait we're trading KD And three first rounders?

So basically we ended up trading Mikal Bridges and 7 first rounders for Nic Claxton?

LOL...and Crowder....5 2nds he went for.

Read on Twitter

Giggity.

According to the wiretap, the warriors can offer up to 4 swaps as well.

[TeamTragic]

Ishbia can make good on the KD trade by getting Kuminga/3FRP and 4 swaps.

[bullsaficianado]

If getting Butler means giving up Durant, no thankyou.

[TeamTragic]

If getting Butler means giving up Durant, no thankyou.

You can blame Beal for refusing to be traded.

[SunsRback4Good]

There will be a huge suns trade tomorrow between noon and 3pm be prepared and ready guys.

[TeamTragic]

There will be a huge suns trade tomorrow between noon and 3pm be prepared and ready guys.

Just a feeling?

[sunsbg]

Draymond Green ? Seriously ? 30+yo unlikeable clown. Bring him in. Why not. Jones and Ishbia are like a plague for this franchise.

[Mulhollanddrive]

So Butler, Green, Kuminga for Beal, Durant?