2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[Mr Swagtastic]

These rumors have us linked to everyone seen this the player in brackets will be the team he's traded to

Toronto trades

Chris Boucher (Portland)
Jakob Poeltl (Lakers)
Garrett Temple (cut)
Kelly Olynyk (Portland)
2026 Indy first (Portland)

Lakers trades

Rui (Portland) or Vanderbilt (Portland)
Gabe Vincent (Portland)
2031 1st (Portland)
Christian Wood (Toronto)
Cam Reddish (Portland)

Portland trades

Ayton (Toronto)
Sharpe (Toronto)
Robert Williams (Lakers)
Banton (cut)

The reasons they gave was Portland tanks for Flagg clears massive amounts of salary with Ayton plus two firsts. Talked about potential Boucher and Olynik moves for more assets. Toronto takes a swing with Ayton and gets Sharpe and tanks as well. Lakers get Poeltl and Williams fix their front court issues.

Follow up I seen Bruce Brown for Patrick Williams or in a bigger move for Ingram with extra(s) from Toronto.

It's honestly sooooooooo out of left field I think only LA would say yes. Portland probably hangs onto Sharpe and Toronto might say no because Ayton can't stay healthy but Sharpe it's a great project to have

Hardest of passes for POR.

Ayton needs to be moved, not giving up on Sharpe for this return.

Agree the deal is bad I was merely putting it out to show how bad some of these rumor sites are. I don't expect Portland to move Sharpe or Scoot unless you're clearly getting a upgrade.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Still in the minority that would sell high on Gradey while he still has the "recent lottery pick" shine on him. I'm not seeing a star, even him being a starter on a good team is looking more lofty. That defense is horrible and his finishing at the rim is awful too. We wait one more year and if he stagnates then his trade value tanks. Hopefully he can be retained on a team friendly deal but if he gets anywhere close to starter money he loses a whole bunch of value unless his play picks up a lot.

I'd rather Walter takes Gradey's role and we look to get a real wing/forward that can play between RJ and Scottie. We're also likely to draft another guard in the 6'4-6'6 range so Gradey would be even more expendable.

We made this mistake with Gary and not trading him before his final season with the Raptors and his value tanked being too optimistic with severely flawed players.

[mrdressup]

Still in the minority that would sell high on Gradey while he still has the "recent lottery pick" shine on him. I'm not seeing a star, even him being a starter on a good team is looking more lofty. That defense is horrible and his finishing at the rim is awful too. We wait one more year and if he stagnates then his trade value tanks. Hopefully he can be retained on a team friendly deal but if he gets anywhere close to starter money he loses a whole bunch of value unless his play picks up a lot.

I'd rather Walter takes Gradey's role and we look to get a real wing/forward that can play between RJ and Scottie. We're also likely to draft another guard in the 6'4-6'6 range so Gradey would be even more expendable.

We made this mistake with Gary and not trading him before his final season with the Raptors and his value tanked being too optimistic with severely flawed players.

I think he's one of the only young guys we have that knows instinctively how to play basketball on offense (Barnes included). You can see good chemistry with guys like Kelly O and Brown (savvy players). He still looks a bit nervous and twitchy to me. That's going to improve as he matures. I don't like him on this team, but that's because this is a very flawed team (no real PG, a C that clogs, guys around him who are ball dominant scorers... The current roster we have will not work that well to develop Gradey unless we have multiple injuries and guys like RJ are forced to involve him more in actions. He's not getting enough touches, and its a shame because the ball moves well when he touches it. He makes things happen with his movement.

[PushDaRock]

Still in the minority that would sell high on Gradey while he still has the "recent lottery pick" shine on him. I'm not seeing a star, even him being a starter on a good team is looking more lofty. That defense is horrible and his finishing at the rim is awful too. We wait one more year and if he stagnates then his trade value tanks. Hopefully he can be retained on a team friendly deal but if he gets anywhere close to starter money he loses a whole bunch of value unless his play picks up a lot.

I'd rather Walter takes Gradey's role and we look to get a real wing/forward that can play between RJ and Scottie. We're also likely to draft another guard in the 6'4-6'6 range so Gradey would be even more expendable.

We made this mistake with Gary and not trading him before his final season with the Raptors and his value tanked being too optimistic with severely flawed players.

I think he's one of the only young guys we have that knows instinctively how to play basketball on offense (Barnes included). You can see good chemistry with guys like Kelly O and Brown (savvy players). He still looks a bit nervous and twitchy to me. That's going to improve as he matures. I don't like him on this team, but that's because this is a very flawed team (no real PG, a C that clogs, guys around him who are ball dominant scorers... The current roster we have will not work that well to develop Gradey unless we have multiple injuries and guys like RJ are forced to involve him more in actions. He's not getting enough touches, and its a shame because the ball moves well when he touches it. He makes things happen with his movement.

He has a 22% USG rate, how many more touches should he be getting with his relatively limited skill set as a driver/creator?

[mrdressup]

Still in the minority that would sell high on Gradey while he still has the "recent lottery pick" shine on him. I'm not seeing a star, even him being a starter on a good team is looking more lofty. That defense is horrible and his finishing at the rim is awful too. We wait one more year and if he stagnates then his trade value tanks. Hopefully he can be retained on a team friendly deal but if he gets anywhere close to starter money he loses a whole bunch of value unless his play picks up a lot.

I'd rather Walter takes Gradey's role and we look to get a real wing/forward that can play between RJ and Scottie. We're also likely to draft another guard in the 6'4-6'6 range so Gradey would be even more expendable.

We made this mistake with Gary and not trading him before his final season with the Raptors and his value tanked being too optimistic with severely flawed players.

I think he's one of the only young guys we have that knows instinctively how to play basketball on offense (Barnes included). You can see good chemistry with guys like Kelly O and Brown (savvy players). He still looks a bit nervous and twitchy to me. That's going to improve as he matures. I don't like him on this team, but that's because this is a very flawed team (no real PG, a C that clogs, guys around him who are ball dominant scorers... The current roster we have will not work that well to develop Gradey unless we have multiple injuries and guys like RJ are forced to involve him more in actions. He's not getting enough touches, and its a shame because the ball moves well when he touches it. He makes things happen with his movement.

He has a 22% USG rate, how many more touches should he be getting with his relatively limited skill set as a driver/creator?

That's a reflection of the whole year and the time when were short 4-5 players. He's been more like an afterthought for the last little while, but he has still put up reasonable numbers. I'd be happy if he was touching the ball on most of our plays. And that's only because the ball does not stick with him. It's like inviting ball movement. The fewer touches he gets the more pressure he will have to score with those. I wish he had an embarrassment of opportunities to pick his moments from. To me, he looks more like he's being used properly when KO and Brown are on the court. It's not unlike what OG had to deal with with all the mouths that were feeding ahead of him.

[PushDaRock]

I think he's one of the only young guys we have that knows instinctively how to play basketball on offense (Barnes included). You can see good chemistry with guys like Kelly O and Brown (savvy players). He still looks a bit nervous and twitchy to me. That's going to improve as he matures. I don't like him on this team, but that's because this is a very flawed team (no real PG, a C that clogs, guys around him who are ball dominant scorers... The current roster we have will not work that well to develop Gradey unless we have multiple injuries and guys like RJ are forced to involve him more in actions. He's not getting enough touches, and its a shame because the ball moves well when he touches it. He makes things happen with his movement.

He has a 22% USG rate, how many more touches should he be getting with his relatively limited skill set as a driver/creator?

That's a reflection of the whole year and the time when were short 4-5 players. He's been more like an afterthought for the last little while, but he has still put up reasonable numbers. I'd be happy if he was touching the ball on most of our plays. And that's only because the ball does not stick with him. It's like inviting ball movement. The fewer touches he gets the more pressure he will have to score with those. I wish he had an embarrassment of opportunities to pick his moments from. To me, he looks more like he's being used properly when KO and Brown are on the court. It's not unlike what OG had to deal with with all the mouths that were feeding ahead of him.

Last 10 games he's at 61 TS% on 19.4% USG rate. The "fewer" touches is allowing him to be more efficient so seems like the development is going fine?

[mrdressup]

He has a 22% USG rate, how many more touches should he be getting with his relatively limited skill set as a driver/creator?

That's a reflection of the whole year and the time when were short 4-5 players. He's been more like an afterthought for the last little while, but he has still put up reasonable numbers. I'd be happy if he was touching the ball on most of our plays. And that's only because the ball does not stick with him. It's like inviting ball movement. The fewer touches he gets the more pressure he will have to score with those. I wish he had an embarrassment of opportunities to pick his moments from. To me, he looks more like he's being used properly when KO and Brown are on the court. It's not unlike what OG had to deal with with all the mouths that were feeding ahead of him.

Last 10 games he's at 61 TS% on 19.4% USG rate. The "fewer" touches is allowing him to be more efficient so seems like the development is going fine?

Did you watch last might' game? It was a horror show of stagnant offense outside of the bench. I'm happiest about the fact that Dick played minutes without Barnes on the floor. When Barnes came back in the 4th he wrecked the flow, imo. I don't think SB has any well developed idea about how to organize our offensive possessions to maximize our roster. He's still just figuring out how to create quality shots for himself (which he struggles with).

[Psubs]

GS get: Brandon Ingram and cash

Raptors get: Andrew Wiggins and Moses Moody

New Orleans gets: Bruce Brown and GPII

[Mr Swagtastic]

GS get: Brandon Ingram and cash

Raptors get: Andrew Wiggins and Moses Moody

New Orleans gets: Bruce Brown and GPII

Not a bad deal but prefer Ingram to Wiggins. I feel like RJ, Barnes Wiggins is too much overlapping play. I thunk Ingram is the best scorer out of the bunch and that's what Toronto needs

Edit looks like Butler is going to GSW for Dennis Schröder, Wiggins and a protected first

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Looks like we're about to land Ingram for BB and Boucher + probably the worst of our 2026 picks. Don't hate it. Buying super low on a former all star who is younger than 30

[Ell Curry]

With this Ingram trade, I could see RJ for a big man this summer. I don't think they fit together well. They're both like really un-caffienated out there, neither is a 3 or D guy. And we have Walter/Dick/Agbaji to play, too.

Would balance things out if we draft a perimeter player, which still seems likelier than not with, for example, Vecenie's mock having Newell be the only big in the lottery.

Poeltl-X-Chomche
Barnes-Ingram/X-Mogbo
Ingram-Agbaji-Battle
Dick-Walter-PDX2nd
Quickley-2025-Shead

is just more balanced. RJ for Collins and one of Utah's weaker firsts, maybe? Similar deal for Vucevic? Those teams are pretty damn bereft of wing talent. I couldn't really find a deal that made sense in terms of a younger big man who would be here long-term.

[Psubs]

Phoenix gets: Bojan Bogdanovic

Toronto gets: Cody Zeller and 2025 1st pick (LAL via Atl)

Atlanta gets: Jusuf Nurkic and 2025 2nd pick (Por via Tor)

If an expiring contract salary dunk of $3 million is worth one 2nd pick then Zeller would be worth three 2nd's.

[Holla]

Yall love to hate on anything we do, if we didn't move anyone we hate, if we move someone we hate, that he ain't good enough, he won't fit well, he isn't who we should've targeted.

I personally LOVE the trade for the people we gave up.
People say RJ and Ingram arnt a good fit, me personally I can se them thrive off of each other. The SL looks really solid. Although I do feel like we need an upgrade from IQ, if Trae is available I would love his 3pt shooting/assist avg on this squad. But aside from that let's upgrade what we have now. Our SL is set, we need a better backup PG/C

[Thaddy]

Yall love to hate on anything we do, if we didn't move anyone we hate, if we move someone we hate, that he ain't good enough, he won't fit well, he isn't who we should've targeted.

I personally LOVE the trade for the people we gave up.
People say RJ and Ingram arnt a good fit, me personally I can se them thrive off of each other. The SL looks really solid. Although I do feel like we need an upgrade from IQ, if Trae is available I would love his 3pt shooting/assist avg on this squad. But aside from that let's upgrade what we have now. Our SL is set, we need a better backup PG/C

RJ, IQ, and Ingram are all capable of hitting the 3 on ample volume. I have a feeling we'll be okay on that end. The defense is a concern but it'll have to be propped up by Darko. The league doesn't want great defender, it's offensively driven.

Shead is a pretty good back up. I think we might try to keep Mitchell on a small contract as well. They have both made progress on their 3 ball.

The back up C is a problem. I see us drafting Maluach. In the 2nd I can see us grabbing Sorber as well. This would complete our line up and let us put different combos on the court.

[Psubs]

Phoenix gets: Bojan Bogdanovic

Toronto gets: Cody Zeller and 2025 1st pick (LAL via Atl)

Atlanta gets: Jusuf Nurkic and 2025 2nd pick (Por via Tor)

If an expiring contract salary dunk of $3 million is worth one 2nd pick then Zeller would be worth three 2nd's.

Phoenix gets: Chris Boucher and Davion Mitchell

Toronto gets: Clint Capela and 2025 1st pick (LAL via Atl)

Atlanta gets: Jusuf Nurkic and 2025 2nd pick (Por via Tor)

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Toronto: OMax, Powell, Naji, Dal 2025 First

Dallas: Boucher, Ochai, POR 2025 SRP

Save Dallas some money moving off Naji for the next 2 seasons and provide a backup guard/wing in Ochai that they need. Boucher gives some extra size + shooting and can play next to AD. Also save money signing an early SRP over a later first. Even if they don't keep Boucher and just Ochai, they cut down salary by a lot moving off of those other contracts at the end of their roster

Toronto takes a flier on OMax, eat Powell and Naji for next year to get an additional first this year. I think they would be willing to part with a first here but swapping it with our POR 2RP might get this done. Powell I think opts in to his PO for 4M, Naji I guess can be a backup 3/4 while he's here.

[Gavin_TDThree]

time to move Jakob for Edey + Clarke + 2025 1st

[arbsn]

Feels inevitable now that Brooklyn will out tank the raptors and eventually win the lottery with our ping pong ball like that year we got Tross instead of Harrison barnes

[Dexjackson]

Phoenix gets: Bojan Bogdanovic

Toronto gets: Cody Zeller and 2025 1st pick (LAL via Atl)

Atlanta gets: Jusuf Nurkic and 2025 2nd pick (Por via Tor)

If an expiring contract salary dunk of $3 million is worth one 2nd pick then Zeller would be worth three 2nd's.

Phoenix gets: Chris Boucher and Davion Mitchell

Toronto gets: Clint Capela and 2025 1st pick (LAL via Atl)

Atlanta gets: Jusuf Nurkic and 2025 2nd pick (Por via Tor)

Why for Atl? They give up an expiring Capela to take on an extra year of Nurkic and move down in the 2025 draft. I see Nurkic as a bad fit with Trae too. Poor defender and not an athletic big.

[Jermaine OBosh]

Phoenix gets: Bojan Bogdanovic

Toronto gets: Cody Zeller and 2025 1st pick (LAL via Atl)

Atlanta gets: Jusuf Nurkic and 2025 2nd pick (Por via Tor)

If an expiring contract salary dunk of $3 million is worth one 2nd pick then Zeller would be worth three 2nd's.

Phoenix gets: Chris Boucher and Davion Mitchell

Toronto gets: Clint Capela and 2025 1st pick (LAL via Atl)

Atlanta gets: Jusuf Nurkic and 2025 2nd pick (Por via Tor)

Why for Atl? They give up an expiring Capela to take on an extra year of Nurkic and move down in the 2025 draft. I see Nurkic as a bad fit with Trae too. Poor defender and not an athletic big.

Phoenix needs to send a future first to Atlanta. After BI trade I'm not willing to trade our second round pick. We will need that pick to fill up our roster with less money.