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Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25

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Will The Warriors Make a Move? Buyer/Seller? Big move/Small move?

Poll ended at Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:45 pm

Buyer-a big move. LaVine/Bulter/ETC
12
43%
Buyer-a small move. Vuc/Val/ETC
3
11%
Seller-blow it up
6
21%
Seller-small move for tax savings
3
11%
Stand pat
4
14%
 
Total votes: 28

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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#261 » by xdrta+ » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:44 pm

bay2hk wrote:We should just go for Ingram and call it a day. It won’t cost as much as KD or Butler since he’ll be a rental.


He's also missed 27 straight games with a high ankle sprain and no return date. Listed as week to week but hasn't had contact drills.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#262 » by TB » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:50 pm

Warriors get: Ellis and Olynyk

Kings get: Dennis and protected 2025 1st (whatever number we think Fears/Sorber are gone by... so probably like top 12)

Raptors get: Lyles and Trayce

Why for Warriors: Keon and Kelly fit great with Steph and Dray and are under contract this year and next... the main years we will need them. Ellis will need a big jump after that, can cross that bridge when we get there. Yes, back to Podz as backup PG, but we just deal with it and it helps his development. This is the exact type of deal in the margins that can really help us now and not kill our future.

Why for Kings: they love Ellis, but they now have Lavine, Demar, Monk, Carter, Murray all making minutes at the 2-4 tricky... plus Ellis will want a lot of money after next year. They also now have no PGs, so Dennis is a natural fit there and expiring. The hope is a pick in the teens this year from Warriors is enough to make the move.

Why for Raptors: They don't need Kelly long term and Lyles is expiring so they are just getting a much cheaper rotation big for the next few years instead of Kelly.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#263 » by tal57 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:50 pm

TB wrote:
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TB wrote:Still think there are some moves to maybe take advantage of teams that have too many good players at same position....

Go get Keon Ellis for Trayce and a protected 1st. Steph, Ellis, Wiggins, Dray, Loon is an incredible defensive lineup. Kuminga or Moody for Loon when we need another scorer.

Or try and get Reaves/Vanderbilt for Dray/Trayce/pick from Lakers. They need a defensive big, Dray and Lebron are close, and Reaves/Vanderbilt keeps us competitive while also bridging to future.

Keon Ellis has been the guy I've wanted or Vince Williams in Memphis as low salary defensive guards that can shoot.

Would love to dump Dray on the Lakers so everyone can see how hard it is to play with Dray on offense.


Melton not getting injured or GP2 having developed a 3 point shot would have us in a very different spot I think. We need a 3/D SG so badly.

I believe Melton's injury was a much, much, much bigger blow than anyone had anticipated, and created the chain reaction. The main cogs' age and unfortunate injury to JK when he started to accelerate, and a few others missing time with injuries only significantly deepened the problem. When the team is assembled, those kinds of prolong injuries are the killer. Just ask 49ers.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#264 » by xdrta+ » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:52 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Are there any stars on the trade block who want to come play with Steph and Draymond?


Doesn't sound like this one does.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#265 » by DAWill1128 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:52 pm

Schroeder+Hield+Anderson+Moody
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Ingram+Alvarado

C Looney, Post, TJD
PF Green, Santos
SF Ingram, Kuminga
SG Wiggins, GP2, Waters
PG Curry, Podz, Alvarado
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#266 » by tal57 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:58 pm

It's down to Ingram or somehow prying Williamson out of NO. And they'll have to overpay now because they are dealing from the position of weakness. Teams know Warriors are desperate.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#267 » by GSWFan1994 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:59 pm

I hope we don't trade for KD. This team needs to get younger and bigger, and losing many picks/swaps would not be ideal from my point of view.

If we need to go for an all-in move, ok, but please target a younger player, preferably a frontcourt one. Durant is what, 36 or 37? No, not interested. Same for Jimmy.

Realistically though, I don't see any available trades or players which would improve us. I'd like to be surprised by tomorrow, sure.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#268 » by jg77 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:59 pm

Will we at least trade for a center??
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#269 » by Arlo » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:59 pm

Not feeling the love here.

The players can clearly see what the FO can't.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#270 » by ahmetmekin » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:03 pm

I am not sure if I witnessed such a trade strategy.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#271 » by jaymo123 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:04 pm

Players not wanting to play in GSW is the Kerr/Draymond effect. Many saw the Olympics and didn't like the way Tatum was treated by Kerr, plus his coaching was atrocious.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#272 » by tal57 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:11 pm

[quote="jaymo123"]Players not wanting to play in GSW is the Kerr/Draymond effect. Many saw the Olympics and didn't like the way Tatum was treated by Kerr, plus his coaching was atrocious.[/quote

Agreed, Kerr is a problem for this team at this particular time.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#273 » by BayAreaDub » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:13 pm

It feels like nothing will happen now
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#274 » by HiRez » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:16 pm

The question is does KD still not want to come here if Draymond is part of the trade? If the answer is still no then you have to start looking at Kerr or Lacob. KD is clearly still not cool with something about GS, Draymond seems the most likely culprit because we know they clashed before, but not the only possibility.

Anyway, sounds like KD coming back is too complicated and too expensive so probably not happening, or maybe better if it doesn't.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#275 » by BayAreaDub » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:24 pm

All I know is if there ends up being no move, this is an awful look for our front office. So much talk about this trade deadline internally and externally. To come up with nothing and stand pat would be pathetic and sad.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#276 » by TB » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:32 pm

They need to not do a panic move like Vucevic or Jimmy for future picks and a max extension.... which still will have us scratching and crawling to get to the top 6... not to mention either could be an absolute disaster and have us staying in the lotto.

Get NAW or Ellis or Olynyk or Nesmith etc etc or some combo of them without mortgaging the future.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#277 » by whatisacenter » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:32 pm

The draft thread is about to be a lot more active!
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#278 » by DAWill1128 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:33 pm

Some of it comes down to salesmanship. West convinced All-Stars like Lee, Iggy, and Durant to come here.

Everyone here loves talking smack about Rob Lowe, but that guy could sell Chris Chiozza and a 2nd rounder for Jamal Murray if he wanted.
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#279 » by whatisacenter » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:35 pm

Oh barf, now they’re saying all our attention to this on Butler!
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Re: Trade Deadline Thread 2/6/25 

Post#280 » by sonnyhill » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:48 pm

HiRez wrote:The question is does KD still not want to come here if Draymond is part of the trade? If the answer is still no then you have to start looking at Kerr or Lacob. KD is clearly still not cool with something about GS, Draymond seems the most likely culprit because we know they clashed before, but not the only possibility.

Anyway, sounds like KD coming back is too complicated and too expensive so probably not happening, or maybe better if it doesn't.


With Bob Meyers no longer in the organization, the only reason why KD does not want to rejoin the Warriors is Steve Kerr.

https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Kevin-Durant-says-he-was-mad-at-Warriors-Steve-16395223.php

Kevin Durant says he was mad at Warriors' Steve Kerr, Bob Myers after infamous Draymond Green blowup
By Alex Shultz, Politics editor, SFGATE
Updated Aug 20, 2021 1:52 p.m.

Sporting an Oakland A's hat, Kevin Durant finally laid it all out: It wasn't Draymond Green's infamous shouting match that pushed him to leave the Golden State Warriors. It was how the team — specifically coach Steve Kerr and general manager Bob Myers — reacted afterwards.

I'll back up. On Wednesday, Bleacher Report dropped a much-anticipated interview between KD and Green, the latter of whom is apparently hosting a new web series called "Chips." In recent years, Durant has become reticent to speak with the media, and mostly (playfully) trolls annoying fans on Twitter, so this was a rare, real opportunity for him to tie up some loose ends about his bumpy departure from the Dubs. And boy did he.

"I felt like I was the absolute perfect fit with what you guys were doing on both ends of the ball," he told Green about why he decided to leave Oklahoma City for Oakland in the first place. "And I knew my game had reached a point where I needed to really see what that looked like. And I thought that was just a no-brainer: I would do that s—t a million times again. I didn't second-guess at all."

Durant said he went through the formal free agency meetings with other teams in the summer of 2016 but had basically already made up his mind to join the Dubs. His hunch was spot-on, as the Warriors won two championships and advanced to three straight title rounds. Green made sure to note that they would've won three championships "had you [Durant] not got hurt," to which Durant responded, "Easily." (Surely Raptors fans will not be annoyed by this.)

But like any good interviewer, Green quickly transitioned from complimentary softball questions to the good stuff. "In my opinion, after year two, you were over it," Green bluntly told Durant. "You were done with it and you were onto the next thing. But we had the opportunity to three-peat, and in my mind, what brought you back to Golden State for year three was just the opportunity to three-peat."

Durant didn't totally agree with that thesis, actually, and countered that he was mostly just intensely focused on his craft, which might've come across as him being moody or upset.

"I locked [in] with so much focus and determination to not f—k around every day, and you seen it. From workouts to practices, shootarounds, film, I was super locked in. It made people on the outside look at me like, 'Hold on. Is he enjoying this?' ... I liked that I was closed off and focused on my work. I maybe should've communicated that with more people who were interested in knowing what I was going through, but I had the most fun locking in and completing the task."

But Durant was of course upset about his much-publicized November 2018 argument with Green, when Green reportedly laid into KD in the middle of a game. Green asked Durant how much their argument drove KD "to ultimately leave the Warriors," as has largely been assumed, and Durant confirmed it had a major effect — just not in the way most onlookers have long assumed.

"It wasn't the argument," Durant said. "It was the way that everybody — Steve Kerr acted like it didn't happen. Bob Myers tried to just discipline you and think that that would put the mask over everything. I really felt like that was such a big situation for us as a group, the first time we went through something like that. We had to get that s—t all out."

Durant went on to say he would've preferred the team address their fight head-on, but no one did that. Instead, "we tried to dance around it," he asserted.

Green concurred, and said the Warriors wanted him to force an apology to Durant, which he warned them would backfire. Myers nevertheless decided to suspend Green for a game, and Green responded by laughing in Myers' face.

"In my opinion, they f—ked it up," Green said. And Durant agreed.

Watch the full interview below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=3x6DjeJNd64&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fwarriors%2Farticle%2FKevin-Durant-says-he-was-mad-at-Warriors-Steve-16395223.php&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY

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