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Post#421 » by the_process » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:34 pm

Arsenal wrote:Cupcake going to Miami or staying in Phoenix per Windhorst! Warriors are out!!

The Deal Zone!!!


Suns aren’t trading Durant for Butler. Unless the Heat get the Laker rules now?

No Deal Zone.
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Post#422 » by sixers hoops » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:37 pm

The whole thing is a mess. He built this team of old, injury prone players, who are playing about as much as they always do. They sign KJ as trade fodder to add to this masterpiece, but have to pay to dump him as the season is crumbling away. Meanwhile, Lowry, Gordon, Embiid, Drummond, and George are always hurt because they are old, and always hurt anyway. He has to go back to the drawing board every season or two because none of these plans work, yet somehow we are going to hang on to PG. Instead of moving PG now, we will prob move picks in a year or two to have somebody take him off of our hands.

I have no problem with either Martin trade. It makes sense from the mess the team is in. The core of this team is extremely flawed in that PG and Embiid are injury prone players who look like they will never make a successful playoff run together. My issue is that they are just executing moves that will allow them to rotate some peripheral pieces, and we have to act surprised when Embiid and/PG can’t give us a full season next year.

If he doesn’t dump PG, our roster is going to be locked into three more seasons of Embiid, PG, and Maxey making $150 million. Unless Embiid and PG start getting younger and healthier, it won’t be pretty. Embiid played 31 games last year and is on pace to play about 24 this year. Paul George has played 30 games so far and hasn’t looked like the player he was a few years ago. The contracts these guys have versus their overall production on the court leaves Maxey was very little help.

If Morey doesn’t dump PG, this team is cooked. If Embiid could stay healthy, I think PG is worth the risk. If Embiid could carried us through a playoff season, PG has the skills to be an excellent playoff complement to Embiid and Maxey. However, after realizing how bad Joel’s knees actually are, and PG getting off to a pretty poor start to the season, it is very clear to me that they should move PG if they can find a sucker to take him.
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Post#423 » by Negrodamus » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:01 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:So we have 13 on the roster with 3 two-way players? Obviously we're going to sign Edwards to a contract so he can play in the playoffs. That leaves us with one open spot on the roster (possible buyout) and 1 two way spot, right?





Lmao, fair; however I think we make the play-in game. Arguably the worst of all the options.
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Post#424 » by MikRay » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:04 pm

sixers hoops wrote:The whole thing is a mess. He built this team of old, injury prone players, who are playing about as much as they always do. They sign KJ as trade fodder to add to this masterpiece, but have to pay to dump him as the season is crumbling away. Meanwhile, Lowry, Gordon, Embiid, Drummond, and George are always hurt because they are old, and always hurt anyway. He has to go back to the drawing board every season or two because none of these plans work, yet somehow we are going to hang on to PG. Instead of moving PG now, we will prob move picks in a year or two to have somebody take him off of our hands.

I have no problem with either Martin trade. It makes sense from the mess the team is in. The core of this team is extremely flawed in that PG and Embiid are injury prone players who look like they will never make a successful playoff run together. My issue is that they are just executing moves that will allow them to rotate some peripheral pieces, and we have to act surprised when Embiid and/PG can’t give us a full season next year.

If he doesn’t dump PG, our roster is going to be locked into three more seasons of Embiid, PG, and Maxey making $150 million. Unless Embiid and PG start getting younger and healthier, it won’t be pretty. Embiid played 31 games last year and is on pace to play about 24 this year. Paul George has played 30 games so far and hasn’t looked like the player he was a few years ago. The contracts these guys have versus their overall production on the court leaves Maxey was very little help.

If Morey doesn’t dump PG, this team is cooked. If Embiid could stay healthy, I think PG is worth the risk. If Embiid could carried us through a playoff season, PG has the skills to be an excellent playoff complement to Embiid and Maxey. However, after realizing how bad Joel’s knees actually are, and PG getting off to a pretty poor start to the season, it is very clear to me that they should move PG if they can find a sucker to take him.


Spot on with everything

Let’s hope Morey is canned at the end of this year. To think I was fired up when we got him. I thought he was some great GM lol wow was I wrong!!!!!
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Post#425 » by Embiid P » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:20 pm

MikRay wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:The whole thing is a mess. He built this team of old, injury prone players, who are playing about as much as they always do. They sign KJ as trade fodder to add to this masterpiece, but have to pay to dump him as the season is crumbling away. Meanwhile, Lowry, Gordon, Embiid, Drummond, and George are always hurt because they are old, and always hurt anyway. He has to go back to the drawing board every season or two because none of these plans work, yet somehow we are going to hang on to PG. Instead of moving PG now, we will prob move picks in a year or two to have somebody take him off of our hands.

I have no problem with either Martin trade. It makes sense from the mess the team is in. The core of this team is extremely flawed in that PG and Embiid are injury prone players who look like they will never make a successful playoff run together. My issue is that they are just executing moves that will allow them to rotate some peripheral pieces, and we have to act surprised when Embiid and/PG can’t give us a full season next year.

If he doesn’t dump PG, our roster is going to be locked into three more seasons of Embiid, PG, and Maxey making $150 million. Unless Embiid and PG start getting younger and healthier, it won’t be pretty. Embiid played 31 games last year and is on pace to play about 24 this year. Paul George has played 30 games so far and hasn’t looked like the player he was a few years ago. The contracts these guys have versus their overall production on the court leaves Maxey was very little help.

If Morey doesn’t dump PG, this team is cooked. If Embiid could stay healthy, I think PG is worth the risk. If Embiid could carried us through a playoff season, PG has the skills to be an excellent playoff complement to Embiid and Maxey. However, after realizing how bad Joel’s knees actually are, and PG getting off to a pretty poor start to the season, it is very clear to me that they should move PG if they can find a sucker to take him.


Spot on with everything

Let’s hope Morey is canned at the end of this year. To think I was fired up when we got him. I thought he was some great GM lol wow was I wrong!!!!!


He was good in Houston but it seems like his nostalgic affinity for washed up stars and role players has finally caught up with him. To his credit though, he did draft Maxey and McCain, and found some diamonds in the rough in Yabu and Edwards.
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Post#426 » by MikRay » Wed Feb 5, 2025 10:13 pm

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sixers hoops wrote:The whole thing is a mess. He built this team of old, injury prone players, who are playing about as much as they always do. They sign KJ as trade fodder to add to this masterpiece, but have to pay to dump him as the season is crumbling away. Meanwhile, Lowry, Gordon, Embiid, Drummond, and George are always hurt because they are old, and always hurt anyway. He has to go back to the drawing board every season or two because none of these plans work, yet somehow we are going to hang on to PG. Instead of moving PG now, we will prob move picks in a year or two to have somebody take him off of our hands.

I have no problem with either Martin trade. It makes sense from the mess the team is in. The core of this team is extremely flawed in that PG and Embiid are injury prone players who look like they will never make a successful playoff run together. My issue is that they are just executing moves that will allow them to rotate some peripheral pieces, and we have to act surprised when Embiid and/PG can’t give us a full season next year.

If he doesn’t dump PG, our roster is going to be locked into three more seasons of Embiid, PG, and Maxey making $150 million. Unless Embiid and PG start getting younger and healthier, it won’t be pretty. Embiid played 31 games last year and is on pace to play about 24 this year. Paul George has played 30 games so far and hasn’t looked like the player he was a few years ago. The contracts these guys have versus their overall production on the court leaves Maxey was very little help.

If Morey doesn’t dump PG, this team is cooked. If Embiid could stay healthy, I think PG is worth the risk. If Embiid could carried us through a playoff season, PG has the skills to be an excellent playoff complement to Embiid and Maxey. However, after realizing how bad Joel’s knees actually are, and PG getting off to a pretty poor start to the season, it is very clear to me that they should move PG if they can find a sucker to take him.


Spot on with everything

Let’s hope Morey is canned at the end of this year. To think I was fired up when we got him. I thought he was some great GM lol wow was I wrong!!!!!


He was good in Houston but it seems like his nostalgic affinity for washed up stars and role players has finally caught up with him. To his credit though, he did draft Maxey and McCain, and found some diamonds in the rough in Yabu and Edwards.


You make some good points. Maxey was a steal and it appears the other three guys you mentioned will be very serviceable players so point taken.
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Post#427 » by Foshan » Wed Feb 5, 2025 10:23 pm

So are we done? Stuck with Drummond and Jackson? I guess I’m not a big fan of paying more future seconds just to dump them, but was hoping someone might be desperate enough for a C to take drummond
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Post#428 » by MikRay » Wed Feb 5, 2025 10:33 pm

Foshan wrote:So are we done? Stuck with Drummond and Jackson? I guess I’m not a big fan of paying more future seconds just to dump them, but was hoping someone might be desperate enough for a C to take drummond


Isn’t tomorrow at 3 PM Eastern the deadline?
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Post#429 » by Mik317 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:36 pm

KD would be an interesting pivot from PG
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Post#430 » by the_process » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:40 pm

They don't want to openly tank because of their vets, and they seem to have finally realized they aren't good enough to actually win a title.

So the next three years will consist of Morey walking around outside in thunderstorms holding a bottle up to the sky.
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Post#431 » by NearingZero » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:55 pm

Mik317 wrote:KD would be an interesting pivot from PG

I wonder what it would take. PHX is in a situation where it'll hard for them to compete in the next couple years, but they won't be helped by losing for quite a while.
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Post#432 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:59 pm

Mik317 wrote:KD would be an interesting pivot from PG
Seems like Morey was too late on convincing the Suns to trade KD for PG. Just shameful...

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Post#433 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:00 am

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Mik317 wrote:KD would be an interesting pivot from PG

I wonder what it would take. PHX is in a situation where it'll hard for them to compete in the next couple years, but they won't be helped by losing for quite a while.


I think PG would have to land elsewhere (i.e. GSW). Phoenix would be foolish to take on more long-term, bad money.
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Post#434 » by sixers hoops » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:07 am

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sixers hoops wrote:The whole thing is a mess. He built this team of old, injury prone players, who are playing about as much as they always do. They sign KJ as trade fodder to add to this masterpiece, but have to pay to dump him as the season is crumbling away. Meanwhile, Lowry, Gordon, Embiid, Drummond, and George are always hurt because they are old, and always hurt anyway. He has to go back to the drawing board every season or two because none of these plans work, yet somehow we are going to hang on to PG. Instead of moving PG now, we will prob move picks in a year or two to have somebody take him off of our hands.

I have no problem with either Martin trade. It makes sense from the mess the team is in. The core of this team is extremely flawed in that PG and Embiid are injury prone players who look like they will never make a successful playoff run together. My issue is that they are just executing moves that will allow them to rotate some peripheral pieces, and we have to act surprised when Embiid and/PG can’t give us a full season next year.

If he doesn’t dump PG, our roster is going to be locked into three more seasons of Embiid, PG, and Maxey making $150 million. Unless Embiid and PG start getting younger and healthier, it won’t be pretty. Embiid played 31 games last year and is on pace to play about 24 this year. Paul George has played 30 games so far and hasn’t looked like the player he was a few years ago. The contracts these guys have versus their overall production on the court leaves Maxey was very little help.

If Morey doesn’t dump PG, this team is cooked. If Embiid could stay healthy, I think PG is worth the risk. If Embiid could carried us through a playoff season, PG has the skills to be an excellent playoff complement to Embiid and Maxey. However, after realizing how bad Joel’s knees actually are, and PG getting off to a pretty poor start to the season, it is very clear to me that they should move PG if they can find a sucker to take him.


Spot on with everything

Let’s hope Morey is canned at the end of this year. To think I was fired up when we got him. I thought he was some great GM lol wow was I wrong!!!!!


He was good in Houston but it seems like his nostalgic affinity for washed up stars and role players has finally caught up with him. To his credit though, he did draft Maxey and McCain, and found some diamonds in the rough in Yabu and Edwards.


He actually has done a really good job identifying young or undervalued talent. It’s his affinity for washed-up veterans and massively overvaluing washed-up stars. In Houston, in the end, he stripped all of their picks on musical chairs with Chris Paul, then Westbrook. Here it’s Harden and Paul George.

Embiid barely plays. In over a season and a half, Embiid has played 45 regular season games. You can’t make desperation moves to try to salvage Embiid’s championship hopes. While a superstar, his health has deteriorated to the point where he can be depended on to play regularly. PG is a win-now signing to be the final piece to a star whose health has deteriorated to where I don’t think he could ever make it healthy through a two month playoff run.

If I thought Embiid could stay healthy for two months without being significantly hobbled by his knees, I would be fine keeping PG. He is an overpay and looks much worse than we hoped, but I would be comfortable gambling on him providing enough production behind Jo and Maxey. I think PG still has some big games left in him, can defend, and can play off the ball. However, we don’t have the luxury to carry a $60 million fading star for another 3.5 years of shooting for play-in games. Maxey needs Morey to get him some real help.
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Post#435 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:11 am

Definitely want EG,Drummond,Lowry and Reggie gone before PG.
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Post#436 » by Foshan » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:16 am

MikRay wrote:
Foshan wrote:So are we done? Stuck with Drummond and Jackson? I guess I’m not a big fan of paying more future seconds just to dump them, but was hoping someone might be desperate enough for a C to take drummond


Isn’t tomorrow at 3 PM Eastern the deadline?

I’m on the other side of the world, I usually get these deadlines messed up.
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Post#437 » by NearingZero » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:16 am

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Mik317 wrote:KD would be an interesting pivot from PG

I wonder what it would take. PHX is in a situation where it'll hard for them to compete in the next couple years, but they won't be helped by losing for quite a while.


I think PG would have to land elsewhere (i.e. GSW). Phoenix would be foolish to take on more long-term, bad money.

OK, looking at their 2nd apron situation, I agree. If it weren't for that, I'm not sure how much it would hurt them because they can't benefit from being a lottery-level team any time soon.

So then the question is does anyone else take PG because they don't have the assets to get KD?
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Post#438 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:21 am

Butlet to the Dubs....Wiggins, Anderson, Schroeder going to Miami.
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Post#439 » by Embiid P » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:27 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Butlet to the Dubs....Wiggins, Anderson, Schroeder going to Miami.


Guess PG is staying then.
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