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2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1941 » by Mr Puddles » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:31 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Wait, people are actually mad we didn't send our remaining draft capital for the privilege of paying Jimmy Butler $121m?


Suns just shot 32 fewer shots than their opponent. Trading all remaining assets for a guy who doesn't address this team's core needs is ridiculous.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1942 » by TeamTragic » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:31 am

sunsbum wrote:He’s pretty good if he can stay healthy. Mark Williams. Weird that Charlotte just traded away all their centers but I think they got another guy that’s a monster rebounder waiting in the wings. Can’t remember his name but I had him on my fantasy team for a few games.


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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1943 » by Qwigglez » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:31 am

Lakers didn't have enough minutes for Knecht with Luka, Lebron, Reaves. Moving him was a smart move.
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Post#1944 » by sunsbg » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:32 am

Saberestar wrote:Perfect C for the Lakers, Mark Williams.

Why the Hornets trade a young and upcoming C on a rookie deal? The Lakers get the most lopsided trades...


You don't value unprotected picks much though people on GB say it's a nice deal for Hornets. Williams also had very nice stats. I assume he'll keep those playing with two great passers.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1945 » by Mulhollanddrive » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

Doncic, Reaves, Finney-Smith, James, Williams
Hachimura, Hayes

Theyre still a back up guard short, Allen would be perfect for them
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1946 » by TeamTragic » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

Any chance this **** franchise does anything?
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1947 » by Slim Charless » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:38 am

sunsbg wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Perfect C for the Lakers, Mark Williams.

Why the Hornets trade a young and upcoming C on a rookie deal? The Lakers get the most lopsided trades...


You don't value unprotected picks much though people on GB say it's a nice deal for Hornets. Williams also had very nice stats. I assume he'll keep those playing with two great passers.


Mark Williams is Zion level in missing games. Without the excuse of being fat, he's just fragile. Tho it's the Lakers so watch him rattle off a Mikal, AJ Green, Cal Ripkin Jr ironman streak now lol.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1948 » by sunskerr » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:38 am

I can only bow at this point to the Lakers. I fully submit myself to their inevitable will. They are the masters. Can't even hate them at this point. It's just comical how their retool has gone compared to ours.

When LeBron is off the books you know they will have some other key signings and that 2031 pick is probably 25+
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1949 » by Saberestar » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:39 am

sunsbg wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Perfect C for the Lakers, Mark Williams.

Why the Hornets trade a young and upcoming C on a rookie deal? The Lakers get the most lopsided trades...


You don't value unprotected picks much though people on GB say it's a nice deal for Hornets. Williams also had very nice stats. I assume he'll keep those playing with two great passers.

For what they want an unprotected FRP in 6 years if when they have a very good young C on a rookie contract they trade him for no reason?

Mark Wiliams is a C that can give you 18p/12r/2b per game and his ceiling is unknown yet.
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Post#1950 » by KLEON » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:41 am

I wish this team could pull off a mid season trade that massively improve this team like the Mavs did last season
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Post#1951 » by TeamTragic » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:42 am

KLEON wrote:I wish this team could pull off a mid season trade that massively improve this team like the Mavs did last season


Front office is too busy watching the competition get better while they get blown out by 40.
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Post#1952 » by Saberestar » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:44 am

TeamTragic wrote:Any chance this **** franchise does anything?

There are some hours left yet.

With Beal staying we are gonna add some pick to Nurkic and try to get a good defensive PF/SF with size. Probably we will need to trade Grayson Allen if we can't get that player with Nurkic.
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Post#1953 » by TeamTragic » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:46 am

Saberestar wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:Any chance this **** franchise does anything?

There are some hours left yet.

With Beal staying we are gonna add some pick to Nurkic and try to get a good defensive PF/SF with size. Probably we will need to trade Grayson Allen if we can't get that player with Nurkic.


I just don't see how that will make a damn difference.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1954 » by sunsbg » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:48 am

Saberestar wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Perfect C for the Lakers, Mark Williams.

Why the Hornets trade a young and upcoming C on a rookie deal? The Lakers get the most lopsided trades...


You don't value unprotected picks much though people on GB say it's a nice deal for Hornets. Williams also had very nice stats. I assume he'll keep those playing with two great passers.

For what they want an unprotected FRP in 6 years if when they have a very good young C on a rookie contract they trade him for no reason?

Mark Wiliams is a C that can give you 18p/12r/2b per game and his ceiling is unknown yet.


Big concerns about his health though. Some think Knecht may end the more successful player.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1955 » by sunsbg » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:51 am

TeamTragic wrote:Any chance this **** franchise does anything?


If you are so sad about not giving picks for Butler go read GB thread about his extension and may feel better.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1956 » by sunsbum » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:52 am

We need to trade tyus for a long PG and get a big long PF, maybe another backup center. None of these moves are going to matter though unfortunately
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1957 » by sunsbum » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:57 am

sunskerr wrote:I can only bow at this point to the Lakers. I fully submit myself to their inevitable will. They are the masters. Can't even hate them at this point. It's just comical how their retool has gone compared to ours.

When LeBron is off the books you know they will have some other key signings and that 2031 pick is probably 25+
David stern rises from the dead and picks the lakers lottery ball combination 666 for the first pick overall after LeBron retires.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1958 » by sunsfan1o1 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:59 am

sunskerr wrote:I can only bow at this point to the Lakers. I fully submit myself to their inevitable will. They are the masters. Can't even hate them at this point. It's just comical how their retool has gone compared to ours.

When LeBron is off the books you know they will have some other key signings and that 2031 pick is probably 25+

Ok calm down. Lakers are not contenders.
They have absolutely zero defense.
Their 3 best players all need the ball and ISO to be effective. It’s just the same thing every time with Pelinka. Just add a bunch of guys who did well on other teams but don’t mesh well because Pelinka doesn’t know how to build a team. He just goes after guys with nice looking stats.
This is a perennial 5-8/play in team as long as LeBron is there.
Suns just need to fire Jones, trade Tyus and get some rebounding and gritty guys.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1959 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:03 am

sunsfan1o1 wrote:
sunskerr wrote:I can only bow at this point to the Lakers. I fully submit myself to their inevitable will. They are the masters. Can't even hate them at this point. It's just comical how their retool has gone compared to ours.

When LeBron is off the books you know they will have some other key signings and that 2031 pick is probably 25+

Ok calm down. Lakers are not contenders.
They have absolutely zero defense.
Their 3 best players all need the ball and ISO to be effective. It’s just the same thing every time with Pelinka. Just add a bunch of guys who did well on other teams but don’t mesh well because Pelinka doesn’t know how to build a team. He just goes after guys with nice looking stats.
This is a perennial 5-8/play in team as long as LeBron is there.
Suns just need to fire Jones, trade Tyus and get some rebounding and gritty guys.


Been same talk for over two decades now and never happens. Rebounders and gritty players never play for the Suns. Keep on dreaming man
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III 

Post#1960 » by sunsbg » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:04 am

sunsfan1o1 wrote:
sunskerr wrote:I can only bow at this point to the Lakers. I fully submit myself to their inevitable will. They are the masters. Can't even hate them at this point. It's just comical how their retool has gone compared to ours.

When LeBron is off the books you know they will have some other key signings and that 2031 pick is probably 25+

Ok calm down. Lakers are not contenders.
They have absolutely zero defense.
Their 3 best players all need the ball and ISO to be effective. It’s just the same thing every time with Pelinka. Just add a bunch of guys who did well on other teams but don’t mesh well because Pelinka doesn’t know how to build a team. He just goes after guys with nice looking stats.
This is a perennial 5-8/play in team as long as LeBron is there.
Suns just need to fire Jones, trade Tyus and get some rebounding and gritty guys.


Agreed on all of this. Let's hope we are right. :)

A lot of that applies to Suns and we see the results. I want to see OKC crush the Lakers in the playoffs as they did with us last game.

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