Trades

[SlimShady83]

Funny how Rob say Lakers not trading Knecht and Rui ... LOL ... I haven't looked at It yet, looking at It as I type this.

[dAdo dA dEvil]

Sad to lose Dalton but I think we're good. We got a 16-10 23 year old young big. We can be in the mix now to win it all. Just round up the roster with another guard or defender from the buy out. Our rotation is crazy.

Bigs: Mark Williams / Jax / Maxi / Christian Wood
Forwards: Bron / Rui / Vando / DFS / Markieff
Guards: Luka / Austin / Gabe / Shake

We can still make another trade but I hope we're done. Just wait for the buy out market.

[Beethoven]

So is this guy injury prone or something? I hope he lasts through the playoffs stint. I liked cam solid player we lost. Hopefully Williams is too.

[LAKESHOW]

I Believe this Move is crazy underrated. If dude played for a high profile team, dudes would've been like NoWay, Robbery. But because he was on the Hornets, no one really knows who this dude is. But This Move is a Bold move by Rob. And I'm all in on this roster

[dAdo dA dEvil]

I Believe this Move is crazy underrated. If dude played for a high profile team, dudes would've been like NoWay, Robbery. But because he was on the Hornets, no one really knows who this dude is. But This Move is a Bold move by Rob. And I'm all in on this roster

Rob just pulled another trick. While our eyes are on Kessler he suddenly brought this Mark Williams guy out of nowhere. This guy is a 7'2" center putting up double double numbers. Even better than Kessler or Dalton. He even fits in Luka's timeline. Now we just need to see how they will play altogether now.

[Beethoven]

I Believe this Move is crazy underrated. If dude played for a high profile team, dudes would've been like NoWay, Robbery. But because he was on the Hornets, no one really knows who this dude is. But This Move is a Bold move by Rob. And I'm all in on this roster

Rob just pulled another trick. While our eyes are on Kessler he suddenly brought this Mark Williams guy out of nowhere. This guy is a 7'2" center putting up double double numbers. Even better than Kessler or Dalton. He even fits in Luka's timeline. Now we just need to see how they will play altogether now.

I've been reading the Charlotte board on their thoughts on this trade, and plenty of them seem fine with this because of his constant back injuries and that he absolutely sucks on defense.

[ROballer]

Lol, the Hornets are fielding G-leaguers out there.

They are tanking their asses off, what he's supposed to do exactly?


Check his defensive impact his rookie season and come back to me again.

It's an apple to oranges situation, ofc he will start giving up a **** again on a real team.

Keep in mind, the package we sent for him was supposed to be in the Luka deal, until Rob pulled a heist. Even with that, it would've been a steal.

Now you get Mark Williams on top of Doncic.
A 23 year old guy who's 7'2 with a 7'7 wingspan and has a higher standing reach than Wemby.

Who's averaging 20/13/3/1.5 blocks for the past month and shooting 82% from the FT line on high volume.


Anyone who complains about the thread should leave right now until I get suspended for going after they ass.


The injury narrative' is bollocks as well. About half of the games he missed in his career was because the Hornets shut him down while healthy, for trying to lose games and gain pingpong balls.

Would've happened this year as well.

[Beethoven]

Lol, the Hornets are fielding G-leaguers out there.

They are tanking their asses off, what he's supposed to do exactly?


Check his defensive impact his rookie season and come back to me again.

It's an apple to oranges situation, ofc he will start giving up a **** again on a real team.

Keep in mind, the package we sent for him was supposed to be in the Luka deal, until Rob pulled a heist. Even with that, it would've been a steal.

Now you get Mark Williams on top of Doncic.
A 23 year old guy who's 7'2 with a 7'7 wingspan and has a higher standing reach than Wemby.

Who's averaging 20/13/3/1.5 blocks for the past month and shooting 82% from the FT line on high volume.


Anyone who complains about the thread should leave right now until I get suspended for going after they ass.


The injury narrative' is bollocks as well. About half of the games he missed in his career was because the Hornets shut him down while healthy, for trying to lose games and gain pingpong balls.

Would've happened this year as well.

Hope you're right.

[SlimShady83]

I've watched a couple youtube clips of Mark now ... Seems to be good at catching lob passes ...

I'm expecting to see a ton of Luka/Mark lob passes.

[Slava]

Steep overpay but Mark Williams is one of the most intriguing bigs out there. Longer wingspan than Wemby, solid motor and great hands. He’s a duke guy, so I hope Redick knows all about him and they believe they can fix the injury issues and defensive acumen.

[stan francisco]

Great deal! Exactly what we needed.

Good luck Dalton. Sorry to see you go, but your wingspan can’t block Wemby and Holmgren.

We can contend this year with this team.

This dude is an athletic freak. 23 years old. He gets 16PPG this season in 25MPG, mostly on garbage offensive putbacks and lobs, without plays being drawn for him.

7’1 with a 7’ 6.5” wingspan, a taller standing reach than Wemby! Soft hands around the rim. Lob city.

He competes. Defense and lower body strength will be his biggest areas of growth needed.

We do not have to worry about offense anymore with Luka, Bron, Reaves. and perhaps 15-20 points on easy putbacks, lobs and FTs by Williams.

Damn, Rob!

A 7’1” C anti-Wemby prospect in Williams.
DFS
Dončić

Nothing was leaked. Loving it. Was pissed at losing AD’s defense. Livid. But this new roster is much better than it was a couple of weeks back. Both long term and short term.

Well done, Rob!!!

[zuju]

AD asked for a legit center for 3 years and he got Hayes and Wood. Doncic only arrived LA a few days ago and got his a good young center in Mark Williams. If AD hate on the Lakers Management, I would definitely get that

A few questions here.

1. What do you think, which team will have a better chance to win a title ?
Mark Williams
AD
LBJ
Christie
AR

VS

Mark Williams
LBJ
Doncic
DSF
Reaves

2. Would you rather trade for Nic Richard and give up less (including that FRP) or get Mark Williams?

3. What is the next move of the Lakers? only sign a buyout like Torey Craig or waive anyone in the current squad to sign 2 buyout ?

[tamaraw08]

Lol, the Hornets are fielding G-leaguers out there.

They are tanking their asses off, what he's supposed to do exactly?


Check his defensive impact his rookie season and come back to me again.

It's an apple to oranges situation, ofc he will start giving up a **** again on a real team.

Keep in mind, the package we sent for him was supposed to be in the Luka deal, until Rob pulled a heist. Even with that, it would've been a steal.

Now you get Mark Williams on top of Doncic.
A 23 year old guy who's 7'2 with a 7'7 wingspan and has a higher standing reach than Wemby.

Who's averaging 20/13/3/1.5 blocks for the past month and shooting 82% from the FT line on high volume.


Anyone who complains about the thread should leave right now until I get suspended for going after they ass.


The injury narrative' is bollocks as well. About half of the games he missed in his career was because the Hornets shut him down while healthy, for trying to lose games and gain pingpong balls.

Would've happened this year as well.

Hope you're right.

while everyone including me was too fixated on Kessler, and yes the Kid is very good, Mark actually had better advanced stats like both ORTG,DRTG, PER etc. and oh btw, he is just 23 on a rookie contract.
What i love about this deal is that they get to keep the core.
Rui and his hot shooting corner 3’s,
Reaves,
Gabe who is a much better defender than DLo, also improving 3’s.
They still have Hayes, a great lob threat.

[tamaraw08]

What??!!

unprotected 2031 FRP ?

I agree. They just toss them into deals like they're nothing. But...Williams is 23, and ascending nicely. Luka is 25. We'll have some nice cap room after Lebron leaves. I don't think we're gonna be in the draft game for a good decade.

wait, I thought Lakers still have FRP’s for 2026,2028,2030?

[LakersSoul]

I Believe this Move is crazy underrated. If dude played for a high profile team, dudes would've been like NoWay, Robbery. But because he was on the Hornets, no one really knows who this dude is. But This Move is a Bold move by Rob. And I'm all in on this roster

Rob just pulled another trick. While our eyes are on Kessler he suddenly brought this Mark Williams guy out of nowhere. This guy is a 7'2" center putting up double double numbers. Even better than Kessler or Dalton. He even fits in Luka's timeline. Now we just need to see how they will play altogether now.

I've been reading the Charlotte board on their thoughts on this trade, and plenty of them seem fine with this because of his constant back injuries and that he absolutely sucks on defense.

One back injury and no surgery.
Was ACC DPOY and in min restriction first 10 games.



First reaction :
Huge overpay by Lakers

Analyzed reaction:
But overpay but a smart move


Summary:
Lakers trade gifted shooter but defensively and focus challenged Knecht. Knecht can shoot the lights out and attack but lack of focus and defensive intensity were frustrating points.

Plus unprotected 2031 FRP + 2030 swap + Reddish


Hornets trade often injured without needing surgery, 7 footer Mark Williams. V efficient around the basket including lob threat and once a defensive stud, trying to find his way.

First 2 years had some ankle and foot issues that needed rest. Most recently, had lower back issue that needed rest and came back on minutes restriction until 2-3 weeks ago so numbers look bit down.

MW has the longest standing reach in NBA (9’9”) and was Defensive POY in ACC.


Overall:
Hornets decided to punt and got a good return. MW has Lot of potential but injury issues exist.

Lakers needed a center in the badest way or waste another year and worry Luka about franchise direction. They overpaid and took a risk but one with big upside.

Instead of a stop-gap backup like Sharpe, they decided to go for broke with MW.

Knecht will be a microwave on O but will struggle on D for next 1-2 year at min and the Lakers could not wait. Plus Lakers unload Reddish to open up a slot for buyout which would have cost them 1-2 SRPs.

Bit of a win-win as Hornets get rookie and picks while Lakers add a big with huge upside thats needed now. Lakers gamble on MWs health and that the picks will not be in most demand after adding Luka.

[chefy]

So we lost AD, Knetch, Russell, Reddish, Christie, two 1st rd picks, and three 2nd rd picks?

[zuju]

So we lost AD, Knetch, Russell, Reddish, Christie, two 1st rd picks, and three 2nd rd picks?

Obviously, win now moves. using future assets to strength the team.

I don't know if we are better now as a team or with a team with AD not traded & adding Williams.

Let see if Rob has any other moves

[chefy]

Nah win now move is keeping the best defensive player in the league AD and just adding another star. But I get it, it’s Luka.

[LAKESHOW]

AD asked for a legit center for 3 years and he got Hayes and Wood. Doncic only arrived LA a few days ago and got his a good young center in Mark Williams. If AD hate on the Lakers Management, I would definitely get that

A few questions here.

1. What do you think, which team will have a better chance to win a title ?
Mark Williams
AD
LBJ
Christie
AR

VS

Mark Williams
LBJ
Doncic
DSF
Reaves

2. Would you rather trade for Nic Richard and give up less (including that FRP) or get Mark Williams?

3. What is the next move of the Lakers? only sign a buyout like Torey Craig or waive anyone in the current squad to sign 2 buyout ?

#1. We were not going to win it all with that 1st grouping. Because we still needed a guy besides LeBron on the perimeter who can BY HIMSELF, get us a bucket, and control the action. JJs system was using a perimeter player based system, with AD following and scoring with Put Backs. Williams can fill that role. LeBron can rest on the bench, and we'll have Zero loss of impact with Luka out there. Previously, LeBron hits the bench, and guys were standing around, looking at each other
#2. Mark Williams is truly an amazing second steal of this draft deadline.
#3. I think we are done, because I believe the play of and Health of Gabe Vincent, Vando and Rui has changed things. This might be the first time they are all healthy at the same time. In other words, if we need something, maybe another Big for insurance. If not the deadline, maybe the buy out market will produce 1 more spot.

[danfantastk32]

What??!!

unprotected 2031 FRP ?

I agree. They just toss them into deals like they're nothing. But...Williams is 23, and ascending nicely. Luka is 25. We'll have some nice cap room after Lebron leaves. I don't think we're gonna be in the draft game for a good decade.

wait, I thought Lakers still have FRP’s for 2026,2028,2030?

Yes, you are correct. You can't trade consecutive FRP's (not sure if you can or can't with 2ndRP's).

My point was, we won't be trying to do much, if any upgrading through the draft for a while (if things work out).