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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1421 » by Michaellam1987 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:28 pm

Bob8 wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:LAL has given up most of the tradable asset, but their position is not bad. Assuming LeBron play out the contact, and retire after the 2025-26 season. In that year's offseason, what they have on book is Luka's last year player option; Reaves's last year player option, already resigned up Mark William (assuming), 12M contract of Vanderbilt, and tons of cap space. Not a bad situation to operate in that summer.

Yep they'll have Luka on a cheap contract and between Luka and LA lifestyle they'll get tons of FAs to line up to sign there. They basically have nothing of value left to trade though, the smart thing would be to trade LeBron now and get assets back for him but obviously you're not gonna do that and blow up all the positive PR, they're not as dumb as Nico is.

I guess they still have Reaves, but he's pretty good and on great contract, unlikely they move him.

They did one more thing with Williams trade, they free additional spot, so they can add someone on buyout market.


It is very likely for Reaves to exercise the player option, and becomes a free agent, this may give further flexibility to LAL.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1422 » by Michaellam1987 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:30 pm

Darren wrote:Right now, it's left with the Mavs and Rockets now. I think the Mavs could beat Houston's offer unless Sengun and Smith are both included.


HOU has the ability to return upto 3 unprotected #1s of PHX back to them is already unmatchable for DAL to do.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1423 » by BliscoSantos » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:54 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:8 hours till the deadline, PJ/Gafford/Klay/3 1sts and PHX would be dumb to say no, I'm not counting this out...


I hope not, that would virtually mean end of basketball in Dallas in few years time or before, if 1 of those 3 fragile players got injured. They should just trade Gafford and Klay for some solid creator, I admit I don't know, who that could be. Maybe Lamelo Ball is available.

Nico's MO is chasing names, and not basketball fit, he just lucked into few great fits in PJ and Lively.


How sure are we that Gafford and PJ were Nico's signings? I have a sneaky feeling Nico wanted Kuzma and when he couldn't get him Dennis Lindsey sugested Gafford and PJ :roll: :lol:
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Post#1424 » by Archx » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:54 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Arch, Khalil; I know its a big ask, but come join me on Team Wizards :)


Oooofff... Luckily for me, i'm not that emotionally invested as some other fans here. To me, it's just sports... Mavs were my top3 team since 2000's because of Dirk and how good Cuban was to him. I mean i look at this situation as great opportunity for Luka to expand his brand but i'm also excited to see how Mavs do with this deep team. Because Christie might actually be much better than we thought and i wouldn't mind him even starting over Klay.

So, all in all... I'm like "Oh ****, this really happend?... Oh well, anyway..." :D
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Post#1425 » by daoneandonly » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:00 pm

Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Arch, Khalil; I know its a big ask, but come join me on Team Wizards :)


Oooofff... Luckily for me, i'm not that emotionally invested as some other fans here. To me, it's just sports... Mavs were my top3 team since 2000's because of Dirk and how good Cuban was to him. I mean i look at this situation as great opportunity for Luka to expand his brand but i'm also excited to see how Mavs do with this deep team. Because Christie might actually be much better than we thought and i wouldn't mind him even starting over Klay.

So, all in all... I'm like "Oh ****, this really happend?... Oh well, anyway..." :D


Haha I get and respect that. Like I said, it seems impossible for me to turn off my Mavs fandom like a switch. But Nico seems like the ultimate snake, a guy that would hug you then stab you while you're facing the other direction. The owners dont seem any better, so I figure maybe a change is due. I totally get those who cant, still struggling to do it obviously as Im still posting here.

Just sucks, Mavs were a huge part of my life, maybe too much to be honest. I've also battled with some unexpected health issues, and honestly really thought my church would be there for me, but they haven't. Of Course, I need to break out of this mindset that I am owed anything in life, but it hurts when two things you love so much and were so committed to seem to have no regard for you.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1426 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:03 pm

Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Arch, Khalil; I know its a big ask, but come join me on Team Wizards :)


Oooofff... Luckily for me, i'm not that emotionally invested as some other fans here. To me, it's just sports... Mavs were my top3 team since 2000's because of Dirk and how good Cuban was to him. I mean i look at this situation as great opportunity for Luka to expand his brand but i'm also excited to see how Mavs do with this deep team. Because Christie might actually be much better than we thought and i wouldn't mind him even starting over Klay.

So, all in all... I'm like "Oh ****, this really happend?... Oh well, anyway..." :D


He might be incredible, if he will continue to shoot 100% for 3.
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Post#1427 » by Archx » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:12 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Arch, Khalil; I know its a big ask, but come join me on Team Wizards :)


Oooofff... Luckily for me, i'm not that emotionally invested as some other fans here. To me, it's just sports... Mavs were my top3 team since 2000's because of Dirk and how good Cuban was to him. I mean i look at this situation as great opportunity for Luka to expand his brand but i'm also excited to see how Mavs do with this deep team. Because Christie might actually be much better than we thought and i wouldn't mind him even starting over Klay.

So, all in all... I'm like "Oh ****, this really happend?... Oh well, anyway..." :D


Haha I get and respect that. Like I said, it seems impossible for me to turn off my Mavs fandom like a switch. But Nico seems like the ultimate snake, a guy that would hug you then stab you while you're facing the other direction. The owners dont seem any better, so I figure maybe a change is due. I totally get those who cant, still struggling to do it obviously as Im still posting here.

Just sucks, Mavs were a huge part of my life, maybe too much to be honest. I've also battled with some unexpected health issues, and honestly really thought my church would be there for me, but they haven't. Of Course, I need to break out of this mindset that I owe anything in life, but it hurts when two things you love so much and were so committed to seem to have no regard for you.


Oh i totally understand. Me being from Slovenia i only wish best for Luka and i will obviously follow his games with Lakers.

And i'll still obviously follow Mavs even though i should be mad at Nico and how he kicked him out the door and insulted him. Plus it took them 5 years to finally build a contender. So it's more like "Have we wasted time or we going somewhere now? " And that goes for both Mavs and Lakers. So, makes sense for fans to jump the ship but i'll just watch both teams and we'll see what happens :D

But yeah i do understand why you guys feel or think a lot different than people like me. Stay strong my friend, when life kicks you to the ground, eventually, the only way back is up. Hopefully that also goes for you too ;)

Bob8 wrote:He might be incredible, if he will continue to shoot 100% for 3.


:lol: :lol: True.
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Post#1428 » by Michaellam1987 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:02 pm

Dennis Schroder may be great fit for DAL, as secondary ball handler, UTAH won't keep him anyway.
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Post#1429 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:07 pm

arkuo wrote:For the record, I think the reason why Luka was traded for so little is Luka also has a player option next year. Which means any team he gets traded to, he's essentially a one year rental. No guarantee he stays and re-signs with the Lakers as well. He's a one year rental if he doesn't like a Luka - Bronny James backcourt, he'll move to another team that has cap space.


That's why you sign him to the supermax and trade him next season, assuming you want to trade him in the first place like that moron Nico.
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Post#1430 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:08 pm

Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.


That's also a tough roster to get scored on by.
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Post#1431 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:09 pm

arkuo wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.

HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.


People are reacting to this half baked. It's not a finished product. If Luka was traded, then no one in that lineup is safe from being traded as well.

I stand by my earlier statement where I said that I'd be willing to trade Kyrie as well as his value now is pretty high.



It doesn't matter what other moves the owners do, because they are not getting Giannis, Jokic, SGA or Wemby for Kyrie and whatever else they have left. Those are the only 4 guys that can even come close to filling the hole left by Luka.
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Post#1432 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:13 pm

arkuo wrote:Strictly objective speaking, AD is legitimately a DPOY candidate. Checked his stats and he's averaging 25 a game (3 pts short of Luka). Probably becomes the best 2 way big in Dallas Mavs history.

He's no slouch. With the reactions online, it feels like Dallas got Mo Bamba back.

Never changing teams because of one player. We move forward as it is.


AD might as well be Mo effing Bamba compared to Luka over the next 5-10 years.
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Post#1433 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:16 pm

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:Strictly objective speaking, AD is legitimately a DPOY candidate. Checked his stats and he's averaging 25 a game (3 pts short of Luka). Probably becomes the best 2 way big in Dallas Mavs history.

He's no slouch. With the reactions online, it feels like Dallas got Mo Bamba back.

Never changing teams because of one player. We move forward as it is.


The magic word is 32 years old in a month. ;)


Sure. But if you take Nico's word for it, then he prefers someone who can play both sides of the court.

We'll see if it pays off. I understand most of the fanbase is frustrated, I just choose to move past all of that. Water under the bridge.


This is more like an ocean under a cardboard bridge. We're all just waiting for the tide to sweep us away now.
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Post#1434 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:22 pm

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Post#1435 » by Darren » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:03 pm

Michaellam1987 wrote:
Darren wrote:Right now, it's left with the Mavs and Rockets now. I think the Mavs could beat Houston's offer unless Sengun and Smith are both included.


HOU has the ability to return upto 3 unprotected #1s of PHX back to them is already unmatchable for DAL to do.


Houston is rumored to target Booker instead of KD while trading young assets. That's mean the Mavs is the lone frontrunner if KD decides to leave this offseason. Houston would rather sign KD for free instead. Phoenix doesn't have much leaverage now. Of course, their front office insists that KD is not available despite listening to offers, though.
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Post#1436 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:27 pm

UglyBugBall wrote:
arkuo wrote:For the record, I think the reason why Luka was traded for so little is Luka also has a player option next year. Which means any team he gets traded to, he's essentially a one year rental. No guarantee he stays and re-signs with the Lakers as well. He's a one year rental if he doesn't like a Luka - Bronny James backcourt, he'll move to another team that has cap space.


That's why you sign him to the supermax and trade him next season, assuming you want to trade him in the first place like that moron Nico.


Nico is not a moron. He's a snake. It's a not a fleece if you do it on purpose. Whatever beef he's been having with Luka, it cost him $116M and got him shipped out overnight. That's personal if you ask me.
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Post#1437 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:31 pm

Darren wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:
Darren wrote:Right now, it's left with the Mavs and Rockets now. I think the Mavs could beat Houston's offer unless Sengun and Smith are both included.


HOU has the ability to return upto 3 unprotected #1s of PHX back to them is already unmatchable for DAL to do.


Houston is rumored to target Booker instead of KD while trading young assets. That's mean the Mavs is the lone frontrunner if KD decides to leave this offseason. Houston would rather sign KD for free instead. Phoenix doesn't have much leaverage now. Of course, their front office insists that KD is not available despite listening to offers, though.


No team has ever won with KD as the # option, besides the 73-9 Warriors. He's now also old as dirt, and although he'll put up nice scoring numbers, his impact on winning is questionable at best. He also doesn't help the defensive identity of this Mavs team, and you'll probably have to give up 2 or 3 of Lively, PJ, Gafford or Naji to get him.
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Post#1438 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:39 pm

UglyBugBall wrote:
Darren wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:
HOU has the ability to return upto 3 unprotected #1s of PHX back to them is already unmatchable for DAL to do.


Houston is rumored to target Booker instead of KD while trading young assets. That's mean the Mavs is the lone frontrunner if KD decides to leave this offseason. Houston would rather sign KD for free instead. Phoenix doesn't have much leaverage now. Of course, their front office insists that KD is not available despite listening to offers, though.


No team has ever won with KD as the # option, besides the 73-9 Warriors. He's now also old as dirt, and although he'll put up nice scoring numbers, his impact on winning is questionable at best. He also doesn't help the defensive identity of this Mavs team, and you'll probably have to give up 2 or 3 of Lively, PJ, Gafford or Naji to get him.


Too late for that for Nico now. He already traded Luka. Might as well go all in. Why pull punches at this point. He needs to throw haymakers from here on out and hope one of those lands.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1439 » by UglyBugBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:49 pm

arkuo wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
Darren wrote:
Houston is rumored to target Booker instead of KD while trading young assets. That's mean the Mavs is the lone frontrunner if KD decides to leave this offseason. Houston would rather sign KD for free instead. Phoenix doesn't have much leaverage now. Of course, their front office insists that KD is not available despite listening to offers, though.


No team has ever won with KD as the # option, besides the 73-9 Warriors. He's now also old as dirt, and although he'll put up nice scoring numbers, his impact on winning is questionable at best. He also doesn't help the defensive identity of this Mavs team, and you'll probably have to give up 2 or 3 of Lively, PJ, Gafford or Naji to get him.


Too late for that for Nico now. He already traded Luka. Might as well go all in. Why pull punches at this point. He needs to throw haymakers from here on out and hope one of those lands.


Nico's gotta stick to the 'culture' he's building. Trade Lively, Gafford, PJ and every pick for Giannis and go all-in on the no spacing, triple tower defensive identity.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1440 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:54 pm

arkuo wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
arkuo wrote:For the record, I think the reason why Luka was traded for so little is Luka also has a player option next year. Which means any team he gets traded to, he's essentially a one year rental. No guarantee he stays and re-signs with the Lakers as well. He's a one year rental if he doesn't like a Luka - Bronny James backcourt, he'll move to another team that has cap space.


That's why you sign him to the supermax and trade him next season, assuming you want to trade him in the first place like that moron Nico.


Nico is not a moron. He's a snake. It's a not a fleece if you do it on purpose. Whatever beef he's been having with Luka, it cost him $116M and got him shipped out overnight. That's personal if you ask me.


What he did, might be a snake, but how he's handling it after that shows that he's idiot.

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