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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1701 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:07 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Trade Melo and build around who?


Harper. Draft night exclusive.

He looked great last night. 8-)
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1702 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:10 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Trade Melo and build around who?


you don't build around anyone, you just keep taking shots at guys until you find someone worthy. just doesn't make any sense to me to spend the next few years trying to get pieces just to maybe get like a 26-27 year old LaMelo to the playoffs for the first time and then the actual hard grind of taking the next step from there. Thats if we don't whiff in the draft. Cause his value is only going to go down as he gets older, has fewer years left on his contract, racks up more injuries, and continues build his reputation as a losing chucker. We have no business holding him hostage here to play another full contract of meaningless basketball games just to sell jerseys.
Can't even expect Miller to take a step next season as he rehabs from his wrist for however long. It will probably take him all of next season to get back to where he is right now

I only trade Melo if I know we are getting a top 2 pick because that guarantees us with a franchise guy Flagg or Harper.

Otherwise it makes no sense to trade him before the draft lottery. We don't know for sure what pick we are getting yet.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1703 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:11 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Trade Melo and build around who?


Harper. Draft night exclusive.

He looked great last night. 8-)


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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1704 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:15 pm

Feels great to know our front office probably isn't very tied to our 23 year old PG who lead the league in Allstar voting.
Also, probably doesn't feel that invested in our #2 pick who is averaging 21 ppg because... he didn't draft him.

Our building blocks moving forward are a 19 yr old that majority of fanbase hates and a 24 yr old rookie averaging 9 ppg.

Who can't be pumped up after reading that, Peterson probably would trade 6 2nd rounders for KJ Simpson if we didn't get him in the draft. Thank god he fell to us.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1705 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:17 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Feels great to know our front office probably isn't very tied to our 23 year old PG who lead the league in Allstar voting.
Also, probably doesn't feel that invested in our #2 pick who is averaging 21 ppg because... he didn't draft him.

Our building blocks moving forward are a 19 yr old that majority of fanbase hates and a 24 yr old rookie averaging 9 ppg.

Who can't be pumped up after reading that, Peterson probably would trade 6 2nd rounders for KJ Simpson if we didn't get him in the draft. Thank god he fell to us.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1706 » by fatlever » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:35 pm

Lonzo extension
Thoughts on how that would impact a potential trade today or in the summer?

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1707 » by yosemiteben » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:44 pm

Not sure why people are jumping off a bridge assuming we're going to move Melo.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1708 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:51 pm

fatlever wrote:Lonzo extension
Thoughts on how that would impact a potential trade today or in the summer?

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1709 » by HornetJail » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:51 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Not sure why people are jumping off a bridge assuming we're going to move Melo.

how do you propose moving forward with gaping holes at starting SF, starting C, backup PF/C, backup wing, backup PG (who preferably needs to be able to start in a pinch), while also building around a "core" of four players that aren't particularly good defensively?

like Flagg would change things dramatically, but I have very little faith in us building something without wasting several more years of LaMelo's career. We're cool with just flushing 7+ years of LaMelo's career? LaMelo is ok with that?

I badly wanted to make something work in time for next season, but it's very clear that is not going to happen, since all our team knows how to do is tear down.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1710 » by KembaWalker » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:51 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Not sure why people are jumping off a bridge assuming we're going to move Melo.


it makes less sense to keep him than it does trade him, I'd be more down if we kept him at this point
zero interest in pushing for another 3-4 year build centered around LaMelo as a 27 year old 1st time playoff guy trying to learn how to win when his contemporaries are so far ahead of him in that regard. I can only hope and imagine he aspires to more than that as well. This team and LaMelo are not on the same timeline anymore, barring some win now trade later today
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1711 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:52 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Feels great to know our front office probably isn't very tied to our 23 year old PG who lead the league in Allstar voting.
Also, probably doesn't feel that invested in our #2 pick who is averaging 21 ppg because... he didn't draft him.

Our building blocks moving forward are a 19 yr old that majority of fanbase hates and a 24 yr old rookie averaging 9 ppg.

Who can't be pumped up after reading that, Peterson probably would trade 6 2nd rounders for KJ Simpson if we didn't get him in the draft. Thank god he fell to us.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1712 » by Braggins » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:53 pm

The entire reason Ive liked their position is because I thought they were in a good position to build around LaMelo within a couple years. If they are actively setting their timeline back more than they already have then it really doesn't make as much sense to keep LaMelo and try to build around him, which is a bummer because LaMelo is THE reason to be interested in this team.

The direction they are going feels like Flagg or bust, which is obviously great if it works, but they had enough going on to where they didn't need to put themselves in that situation and they were already pretty close to having maximum odds to get Flagg anyways. They can only improve their odds at #1 by +2.5%.

With the LaMelo/Miller/Mark core it didn't feel like they necessarily needed to get #1 overall. Any pick in the top 6 would have been welcome.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1713 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:56 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Not sure why people are jumping off a bridge assuming we're going to move Melo.


Why wouldn't we? Our new GM is pick crazed and doesn't seem to care how poor the product is on the floor. It is not hard to put 2+2 together.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1714 » by Braggins » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:05 pm

I would probably seriously be considering asking for a trade at some point if I was LaMelo. Might wait to see how the draft lottery goes first in case they get Flagg or maybe Harper/Bailey.

Mark was the perfect PnR compliment for LaMelo. He was more important to LaMelo succeeding than Miller. If LaMelo cares about winning at any point in the near future he should be pissed about this.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1715 » by amcoolio » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:27 pm

The best thing we can hope for is win the lottery, hope a playoff contending team gets in the top 4, and trade LaMelo to that team and end up with a compliment to Flagg and Miller

Yeah it’s farfetched, but what else do we have to hope for at this point
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1716 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:34 pm

Trading LaMelo at age 23 when he has 4.5 years more on his deal would be beyond dumb for a small franchise. Especially when we already have 10 first round picks in the next 7 years. At a certain point there is no point to having a billion picks if the team is ass.

Nobody in the league is envious of the Jazz situation.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1717 » by KembaWalker » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:39 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Trading LaMelo at age 23 when he has 4.5 years more on his deal would be beyond dumb for a small franchise. Especially when we already have 10 first round picks in the next 7 years. At a certain point there is no point to having a billion picks if the team is ass.

Nobody in the league is envious of the Jazz situation.


if this was 2k you might be right but i dont expect the real life Melo and his brand to be down with what this team is cooking up. being on this team arguably already has cost him an all star trip, no reason to believe that is going to change any time soon.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1718 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:44 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:Trading LaMelo at age 23 when he has 4.5 years more on his deal would be beyond dumb for a small franchise. Especially when we already have 10 first round picks in the next 7 years. At a certain point there is no point to having a billion picks if the team is ass.

Nobody in the league is envious of the Jazz situation.


if this was 2k you might be right but i dont expect the real life Melo and his brand to be down with what this team is cooking up. being on this team arguably already has cost him an all star trip, no reason to believe that is going to change any time soon.


Our brains are broken if we think "hey we have a 23 year old all-star, We should trade him now because we are bad".... rather than get real wild here.... try to improve the team around him. I know crazy thought.

Improving the team is just too hard. We only have 10 firsts and 14 2nds. We aren't going to be able to compete with the Lakers, Suns, Warriors, Bucks who all have massive future draft picks that run as deep as 5 total picks including both firsts and seconds. Better give up now.

Like it makes no sense.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1719 » by KembaWalker » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:58 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
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JMAC3 wrote:Trading LaMelo at age 23 when he has 4.5 years more on his deal would be beyond dumb for a small franchise. Especially when we already have 10 first round picks in the next 7 years. At a certain point there is no point to having a billion picks if the team is ass.

Nobody in the league is envious of the Jazz situation.


if this was 2k you might be right but i dont expect the real life Melo and his brand to be down with what this team is cooking up. being on this team arguably already has cost him an all star trip, no reason to believe that is going to change any time soon.


Our brains are broken if we think "hey we have a 23 year old all-star, We should trade him now because we are bad".... rather than get real wild here.... try to improve the team around him. I know crazy thought.

Improving the team is just too hard. We only have 10 firsts and 14 2nds. We aren't going to be able to compete with the Lakers, Suns, Warriors, Bucks who all have massive future draft picks that run as deep as 5 total picks including both firsts and seconds. Better give up now.

Like it makes no sense.


I don't really care about his age, thats deceptive not unlike posting "21 ppg Brandon Miller" where all the important context is being left out. LaMelo is going to be in his 6th year next year... he's not some young gun prospect with a massive development curve. His contemporaries are leading teams in on playoff runs racking up big game experience and he's wasting his career on a team who's big development for the year was finding a decent backup big in the g league in Diabate.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1720 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:05 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
if this was 2k you might be right but i dont expect the real life Melo and his brand to be down with what this team is cooking up. being on this team arguably already has cost him an all star trip, no reason to believe that is going to change any time soon.


Our brains are broken if we think "hey we have a 23 year old all-star, We should trade him now because we are bad".... rather than get real wild here.... try to improve the team around him. I know crazy thought.

Improving the team is just too hard. We only have 10 firsts and 14 2nds. We aren't going to be able to compete with the Lakers, Suns, Warriors, Bucks who all have massive future draft picks that run as deep as 5 total picks including both firsts and seconds. Better give up now.

Like it makes no sense.


I don't really care about his age, thats deceptive not unlike posting "21 ppg Brandon Miller" where all the important context is being left out. LaMelo is going to be in his 6th year next year... he's not some young gun prospect with a massive development curve. His contemporaries are leading teams in on playoff runs racking up big game experience and he's wasting his career on a team who's big development for the year was finding a decent backup big in the g league in Diabate.


So trade Melo, be terrible next year. Lose a lot of games. Miller gets better and averages 30 ppg on a bottom 5 team so nobody thinks he is good and then we do the same thing and trade him because we are terrible. Rinse and repeat.

Maybe whoever we draft after that will be good to enough to win games with Wong- NSJ- Diabate as the starters and we can finally invest in trying to improve the team. Until then we must continue to try to be bad, worse than ever. Don't spend any money, keep the payroll the lowest in the league and by god own all 30 2nd rounders in the 2029 draft.

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