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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#41 » by drosestruts » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:13 am

Dominator83 wrote:
drosestruts wrote:Only 7 players were on the team last year. Over 50% of our roster is different than last year.

But sure, we've done nothing.

We've still done nothing in terms of picking a damn lane


We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.
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Post#42 » by drosestruts » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:15 am

I feel for many of you - your expectations for the trade deadline aren't based in reality.
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#43 » by 2weekswithpay » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:15 am

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Dominator83 wrote:Basically for free too. Someone here made a good point that S.A. compensated us with our pick back for taking on their junk. Sacramento got Lavine from us for free


Not for free, we gave them back their 2028 2nd round pick from the Derozan trade 6 months ago.


We didn't give back the 2nd round pick as part of that trade, that pick wasn't ours to give, the Spurs held the rights to that pick.


That's a completely different pick. When we traded Derozan to the Kings we got 2 second round picks, one in 2025 and one in 2028. We gave them the 2028 pick back in the Lavine trade.

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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#44 » by kulaz3000 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:17 am

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2weekswithpay wrote:
Not for free, we gave them back their 2028 2nd round pick from the Derozan trade 6 months ago.


We didn't give back the 2nd round pick as part of that trade, that pick wasn't ours to give, the Spurs held the rights to that pick.


That's a completely different pick. When we traded Derozan to the Kings we got 2 second round picks, one in 2025 and one in 2028. We gave them the 2028 pick back in the Lavine trade.

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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#45 » by ChettheJet » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:18 am

AK seems a little more uncomfortable in front of the media, and that's a respectful Chicago media that doesn't act like east coast media that thinks they can get executives and managers, coaches fired. The hacks on the Score and ESPN don't come out of the studio to actually say anything face to face.

I think it's a cop out to say the next 30 games will tell which way they go. I've seen Coby, and Ayo for years as starters and off the bench, they saw plenty of Giddey in OKC, the Olympics before you agreed to trade for him, 50 games here he's no mystery. Huerter and Jones are no kids, you have seen what they bring, decide if either is better than the guys who are expiring. Lonzo, Patrick and Smith are signed they're staying, Matas and Philips are your youth.

If somebody wants Vuc, Carter, Collins, Terry in the summer there will no doubt be younger, less expensive guys to bring in or other veterans to be had.

You should have talked to the other 29 teams and even if nobody wanted Bulls' players at the deadline you should have gauged who might be looking some summer. Just like every year, some teams that don't go as far as they think they should have could start tearing it down, those expiring contracts might look good to them.

One thing that I think has not been mentioned, if one of those teams that was asking about Coby has a pick higher than the Bulls, could they trade down to get him even 2, 3, 4 spots? Could adding Ayo to Vuc net the Bulls a late 1st or a better wing scorer? Once the draft is settled a lot more options can be explored.
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#46 » by DuckIII » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:18 am

drosestruts wrote:I feel for many of you - your expectations for the trade deadline aren't based in reality.


Its pretty much always this way at the trade deadline. We traded our best player and unloaded $150 million in contract obligations and fans think we didn't really do anything because we didn't also trade Vuc. Ignoring that it was widely reported nationally and locally that the Bulls were trying to trade him to multiple teams, all of whom then made different moves some of which came shockingly out of nowhere. Leaving us with, per reports, no suitors left.

But in the wake of the trade deadline we often forget that it takes two teams to agree to a trade.
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Post#47 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:19 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
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Dominator83 wrote:Basically for free too. Someone here made a good point that S.A. compensated us with our pick back for taking on their junk. Sacramento got Lavine from us for free


Not for free, we gave them back their 2028 2nd round pick from the Derozan trade 6 months ago.


We didn't give back the 2nd round pick as part of that trade, that pick wasn't ours to give, the Spurs held the rights to that pick.

They absolutely did.

The Bulls recieved 2025 and 2028 second rounds picks for Demar when they traded him to the Kings. The Kings recieved their 2028 second round pick back in their trade for LaVine.

How did San Antonio get that second round pick when the Kings traded it to the Bulls?
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Post#48 » by burlydee » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:20 am

The Bulls traded their best player 3 days ago. They by definition didn't stand pat.

I think they waited too long on a Vuc deal. I think Coby will get traded this summer.
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#49 » by kulaz3000 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:21 am

Muzbar wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:
Not for free, we gave them back their 2028 2nd round pick from the Derozan trade 6 months ago.


We didn't give back the 2nd round pick as part of that trade, that pick wasn't ours to give, the Spurs held the rights to that pick.

They absolutely did.

The Bulls recieved 2025 and 2028 second rounds picks for Demar when they traded him to the Kings. The Kings recieved their 2028 second round pick back in their trade for LaVine.

How did San Antonio get that second round pick when the Kings traded it to the Bulls?


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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#50 » by Dan Z » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:21 am

drosestruts wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:
drosestruts wrote:Only 7 players were on the team last year. Over 50% of our roster is different than last year.

But sure, we've done nothing.

We've still done nothing in terms of picking a damn lane


We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.


Do you think it's a good direction? How many of the teams young players project to have all-star level ability (or close)?

Right now the team is stuck in mediocrity and I don't see them getting out any time soon.
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Post#51 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:23 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
We didn't give back the 2nd round pick as part of that trade, that pick wasn't ours to give, the Spurs held the rights to that pick.

They absolutely did.

The Bulls recieved 2025 and 2028 second rounds picks for Demar when they traded him to the Kings. The Kings recieved their 2028 second round pick back in their trade for LaVine.

How did San Antonio get that second round pick when the Kings traded it to the Bulls?


Yes, see above.

Yeah, he must have typed that out as I was typing mine.

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Post#52 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:24 am

drosestruts wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:
drosestruts wrote:Only 7 players were on the team last year. Over 50% of our roster is different than last year.

But sure, we've done nothing.

We've still done nothing in terms of picking a damn lane


We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.

Is it?
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Post#53 » by jordanwilliams6 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:24 am

This guy is setting the franchise back a decade.

I was relieved when they finally traded Zach because they had picked a direction. Vuc & other players were next and then we could give ourselves the opportunity to draft some building blocks. Instead, he's wrestled control of our draft pick back and is fully anticipating pushing for the playoffs. This guy is completed moronic and brain dead.

I can't wait to spend the next 3 years and draft a bunch of Coby White's & WCJ's and to watch the same mediocre roster construction.

Who are these elite teams with 9 or 10 'very good' players?
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Post#54 » by kulaz3000 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:26 am

Dan Z wrote:
drosestruts wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:We've still done nothing in terms of picking a damn lane


We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.


Do you think it's a good direction? How many of the teams young players project to have all-star level ability (or close)?

Right now the team is stuck in mediocrity and I don't see them getting out any time soon.


Yes, that's right. We may be a young team, but we don't even have a young player on a roster who even comes close to being an All-Star level talent yet. Look at the Hawks, as soon as Jalen went down the team struggled, and then they decided to close shop and looks like they are committing to tank this season to retain their pick, and they have Trae, the number one pick, and Jalen on their roster. That's a decisive move.
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#55 » by kulaz3000 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:26 am

Dan Z wrote:
drosestruts wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:We've still done nothing in terms of picking a damn lane


We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.


Do you think it's a good direction? How many of the teams young players project to have all-star level ability (or close)?

Right now the team is stuck in mediocrity and I don't see them getting out any time soon.


Yes, that's right. We may be a young team, but we don't even have a young player on a roster who even comes close to being an All-Star level talent yet. Look at the Hawks, as soon as Jalen went down the team struggled, and then they decided to close shop and looks like they are committing to tank this season to retain their pick, and they have Trae, the number one pick, and Jalen on their roster. That's a decisive move.
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#56 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:30 am

Welp another season of mediocrity and no good pick / money to spend....yay....i hate thee guys. We'll finish in the play-in, get beat, and get the 13th pick that wont be of any use.
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#57 » by WesPeace » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:30 am

drosestruts wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:
drosestruts wrote:Only 7 players were on the team last year. Over 50% of our roster is different than last year.

But sure, we've done nothing.

We've still done nothing in terms of picking a damn lane


We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.


Arturas is that you? LOLz

We are still mediocre team in NBA hell.. way too bad for being true playoff contender, just good enough to fight for play in on pathetic weak ass East?! Same **** as last 3 years! What direction changed?? Difference is just age, team quality still sucks, AKME still sucks
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Post#58 » by burlydee » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:33 am

SirKaiser wrote:
drosestruts wrote:Only 7 players were on the team last year. Over 50% of our roster is different than last year.

But sure, we've done nothing.

And yet we are no better or worse off. Is that FRP pick going to be better than Lavine, if we were to have held on to him? Not to mention what more we could have gotten for him if we did.

Looking at it big picture, we did indeed stand pat.


The FRP will be 10 years younger than Zach. Which is important. The Bulls pick was by far the highest trade this deadline.

Just breaking up Zach's contract greatly improved flexibility. It's hard to see them even trading for a high salary guy with Zach on the roster.
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#59 » by kernsy » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:34 am

DuckIII wrote:
drosestruts wrote:I feel for many of you - your expectations for the trade deadline aren't based in reality.


Its pretty much always this way at the trade deadline. We traded our best player and unloaded $150 million in contract obligations and fans think we didn't really do anything because we didn't also trade Vuc. Ignoring that it was widely reported nationally and locally that the Bulls were trying to trade him to multiple teams, all of whom then made different moves some of which came shockingly out of nowhere. Leaving us with, per reports, no suitors left.

But in the wake of the trade deadline we often forget that it takes two teams to agree to a trade.



They unloaded 150 million ? How do you figure ? Lavine had about 120 left and the 3 guys added are owed about 55 .
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Re: AKME stands pat 

Post#60 » by burlydee » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:34 am

WesPeace wrote:
drosestruts wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:We've still done nothing in terms of picking a damn lane


We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.


Arturas is that you? LOLz

We are still mediocre team in NBA hell.. way too bad for being true playoff contender, just good enough to fight for play in on pathetic weak ass East?! Same **** as last 3 years! What direction changed?? Difference is just age, team quality still sucks, AKME still sucks


I hear this a lot. Do ppl think Washington and Brooklyn are in better spots?

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