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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#161 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:48 pm

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DOT wrote:Or they picked Dadiet because he was the highest on their board at the time, and then were later able to negotiate with him, with him taking less being a good break for them and not the main intention

I'm being more charitable to them than you are, saying they passed up on better players because they needed to save a few hundred thousand dollars makes them look like morons.


Not really when you are talking the new CBA. Aller is pretty well versed on these things. I say that because reports are we were talking KAT at draft time too. So it just didn't pull the trigger but we knew the financial avenues we need to take after the Mikal trade.

Again the Dadiet to Dunn was on the margins...but it certainly wasn't the risk of costing you the potential of adding KAT.

Not sure you can say that is being a moron...that is simply working under the restrictions of the new CBA.


They simply could have traded the pick if they needed to save money for a KAT trade.

yes they could have...but that is assuming they didn't like Dadiet...they might have liked him and Dunn pretty close but him giving them the 80% reduction probably made there mind up.

Jaylen Wells is probably the only one picked in the 2nd round that might be getting some run with us right now...but thats revisionist history how many people were banging down the door for Jaylen Wells pre draft?
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#162 » by sol537 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:50 pm

Torey Craig looks like a solid pick-up if we're allowed to.

Dadiet could still very well develop into a better player than Dunn. Jury is still out.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#163 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:53 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:This team is 6 guards, 6 centers and 3 wings basically :lol:

What does this front office have against players over 6'7" that aren't frontcourt players?


to be fair outside of finding a true #1 option superstar...there is a dearth of useful two way wings.

That is why OG gets paid what he got paid

Its why Mikal got traded for what he got traded for

Its why Cam Johnson when he gets traded his return will be more than people expect.

Like if your in the 6'6 to 6'9 range and have any skill you probably are pretty damn useful. THe problem is with guys like that most can't either shoot, or they can stretch the floor but they can't defend.




None of this explains why we simply do not go after them in the draft or free agency. Dadiet is the only player they've drafted over 6'6" that is a wing, it's just weird how we always have combo guards that are 6'1" to 6'5".

There have been plenty of wings over the years that we passed on for a guard. They're pretty good at finding those types of players, but they completely punt on arguably the most important archetype in basketball, when OG/Mikal are off the court we look tiny on the perimeter.


I think it goes back to the dearth in the NBA and the dearth that comes out every year in the draft...is any team good at finding 6'6 6'9 players later in the draft?

typically guys that fall are rim running type bigs and smaller guards that might have some potential.

If a player has any potential as a bigger wing they usually are a lotto pick and a lot of those guys are hit and miss.

Just look at the draft after pick 25 who is even in that 6'6 to 6'9 range? Like I basically Ryan Dunn then a bunch of guards and bigs.


25. Knicks draft Pacome Dadiet (Ratiopharm Ulm)

26. Wizards draft Dillon Jones (Weber State) — Traded to Thunder (via Knicks)

27. Timberwolves draft Terrence Shannon Jr. (Illinois)

28. Nuggets draft Ryan Dunn (Virginia) — Traded to Suns

29. Jazz draft Isaiah Collier (USC)

30. Celtics draft Baylor Scheierman (Creighton)

Second Round

31. Raptors draft Jonathan Mogbo (San Francisco)

32. Jazz draft Kyle Filipowski (Duke)

33. Bucks draft Tyler Smith (G League Ignite)

34. Trail Blazers draft Tyler Kolek (Marquette) — Traded to Knicks

35. Spurs draft Johnny Furphy (Kansas) — Traded to Pacers

36. Pacers draft Juan Nunez (Ratiopharm Ulm) — Traded to Spurs

37. Timberwolves draft Bobi Klintman (Cairns) — Traded to Pistons

38. Knicks draft Ajay Mitchell (UC Santa Barbara) — Traded to Thunder

39. Grizzlies draft Jaylen Wells (Washington State)

40. Trail Blazers draft Oso Ighodaro (Marquette) — Traded to Suns (via Knicks)

41. 76ers draft Adem Bona (UCLA)

42. Hornets draft KJ Simpson (Colorado)

43. Heat draft Nikola Djurisic (KK Mega Basket) — Traded to Hawks (via Heat)

44. Rockets draft Pelle Larsson (Arizona) — Traded to Heat (via Rockets)

45. Kings draft Jamal Shead (Houston) — Traded to Raptors

46. Clippers draft Cam Christie (Minnesota)

47. Magic draft Antonio Reeves (Kentucky) — Traded to Pelicans

48. Spurs draft Harrison Ingram (North Carolina)

49. Pacers draft Tristen Newton (Connecticut)

50. Pacers draft Enrique Freeman (Akron)

51. Knicks draft Melvin Ajinca (Saint-Quentin Basketball) — Traded to Mavericks

52. Warriors draft Quinten Post (Boston College) — Traded to Thunder, then to Blazers, then to Warriors

53. Pistons draft Cam Spencer (Connecticut) — Traded to Grizzlies (via Timberwolves)

54. Celtics draft Anton Watson (Gonzaga)

55. Lakers draft Bronny James (USC)

56. Suns draft Kevin McCullar Jr. (Kansas) — Traded to Knicks

57. Grizzlies draft Ulrich Chomche (NBA Academy Africa) — Traded to Raptors (via Timberwolves)

58. Mavericks draft Ariel Hukporti (MHP Riesen) — Traded to Knicks
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#164 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:56 pm

Like Ron Holland went 5th overall because he is 6'8 and can run and jump...it wasn't because he has actual NBA skills...because he legit is raw as hell...but people take bigger wings higher because they aren't many of them.

Just look at someone like Ocahi Agbaji. He is 24...he can shoot and defend and should probably be more sought after then he is. But he's 6'4ish (solid wingspan)...if he was 6'7....he would be starting somewhere right now.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#166 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:02 pm

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to be fair outside of finding a true #1 option superstar...there is a dearth of useful two way wings.

That is why OG gets paid what he got paid

Its why Mikal got traded for what he got traded for

Its why Cam Johnson when he gets traded his return will be more than people expect.

Like if your in the 6'6 to 6'9 range and have any skill you probably are pretty damn useful. THe problem is with guys like that most can't either shoot, or they can stretch the floor but they can't defend.




None of this explains why we simply do not go after them in the draft or free agency. Dadiet is the only player they've drafted over 6'6" that is a wing, it's just weird how we always have combo guards that are 6'1" to 6'5".

There have been plenty of wings over the years that we passed on for a guard. They're pretty good at finding those types of players, but they completely punt on arguably the most important archetype in basketball, when OG/Mikal are off the court we look tiny on the perimeter.


I think it goes back to the dearth in the NBA and the dearth that comes out every year in the draft...is any team good at finding 6'6 6'9 players later in the draft?

typically guys that fall are rim running type bigs and smaller guards that might have some potential.

If a player has any potential as a bigger wing they usually are a lotto pick and a lot of those guys are hit and miss.

Just look at the draft after pick 25 who is even in that 6'6 to 6'9 range? Like I basically Ryan Dunn then a bunch of guards and bigs.


25. Knicks draft Pacome Dadiet (Ratiopharm Ulm)

26. Wizards draft Dillon Jones (Weber State) — Traded to Thunder (via Knicks)

27. Timberwolves draft Terrence Shannon Jr. (Illinois)

28. Nuggets draft Ryan Dunn (Virginia) — Traded to Suns

29. Jazz draft Isaiah Collier (USC)

30. Celtics draft Baylor Scheierman (Creighton)

Second Round

31. Raptors draft Jonathan Mogbo (San Francisco)

32. Jazz draft Kyle Filipowski (Duke)

33. Bucks draft Tyler Smith (G League Ignite)

34. Trail Blazers draft Tyler Kolek (Marquette) — Traded to Knicks

35. Spurs draft Johnny Furphy (Kansas) — Traded to Pacers

36. Pacers draft Juan Nunez (Ratiopharm Ulm) — Traded to Spurs

37. Timberwolves draft Bobi Klintman (Cairns) — Traded to Pistons

38. Knicks draft Ajay Mitchell (UC Santa Barbara) — Traded to Thunder

39. Grizzlies draft Jaylen Wells (Washington State)

40. Trail Blazers draft Oso Ighodaro (Marquette) — Traded to Suns (via Knicks)

41. 76ers draft Adem Bona (UCLA)

42. Hornets draft KJ Simpson (Colorado)

43. Heat draft Nikola Djurisic (KK Mega Basket) — Traded to Hawks (via Heat)

44. Rockets draft Pelle Larsson (Arizona) — Traded to Heat (via Rockets)

45. Kings draft Jamal Shead (Houston) — Traded to Raptors

46. Clippers draft Cam Christie (Minnesota)

47. Magic draft Antonio Reeves (Kentucky) — Traded to Pelicans

48. Spurs draft Harrison Ingram (North Carolina)

49. Pacers draft Tristen Newton (Connecticut)

50. Pacers draft Enrique Freeman (Akron)

51. Knicks draft Melvin Ajinca (Saint-Quentin Basketball) — Traded to Mavericks

52. Warriors draft Quinten Post (Boston College) — Traded to Thunder, then to Blazers, then to Warriors

53. Pistons draft Cam Spencer (Connecticut) — Traded to Grizzlies (via Timberwolves)

54. Celtics draft Anton Watson (Gonzaga)

55. Lakers draft Bronny James (USC)

56. Suns draft Kevin McCullar Jr. (Kansas) — Traded to Knicks

57. Grizzlies draft Ulrich Chomche (NBA Academy Africa) — Traded to Raptors (via Timberwolves)

58. Mavericks draft Ariel Hukporti (MHP Riesen) — Traded to Knicks





6'8" in shoes, starting for the Grizz now. So, all the wheeling and dealing they did to get Pacome on a lower salary, they could have just traded out the first round and taken Wells in the second as he's already making less. I figure they like Pacome, but taking him reminds me of when they took Keels, you know the coach isn't going to play/develop a 19-20 year old project so why even take them?

The 2023 draft when we didn't have a pick had Camara, GG Jackson going in the second round. There's almost always some 6'7+ guy dropping in the draft, it's why the Grizz / Rockets / Hawks / Magic have so many of them, they clearly prioritize finding these player types, if they don't develop oh well, if they do develop then you have a highly valued asset.

They're good at finding combo guards, but time to switch it up and go after some big wings that will actually make it into the rotation.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#168 » by Spot31 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:34 pm

Who the heck is Delon Wright?
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#169 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:36 pm

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None of this explains why we simply do not go after them in the draft or free agency. Dadiet is the only player they've drafted over 6'6" that is a wing, it's just weird how we always have combo guards that are 6'1" to 6'5".

There have been plenty of wings over the years that we passed on for a guard. They're pretty good at finding those types of players, but they completely punt on arguably the most important archetype in basketball, when OG/Mikal are off the court we look tiny on the perimeter.


I think it goes back to the dearth in the NBA and the dearth that comes out every year in the draft...is any team good at finding 6'6 6'9 players later in the draft?

typically guys that fall are rim running type bigs and smaller guards that might have some potential.

If a player has any potential as a bigger wing they usually are a lotto pick and a lot of those guys are hit and miss.

Just look at the draft after pick 25 who is even in that 6'6 to 6'9 range? Like I basically Ryan Dunn then a bunch of guards and bigs.


25. Knicks draft Pacome Dadiet (Ratiopharm Ulm)

26. Wizards draft Dillon Jones (Weber State) — Traded to Thunder (via Knicks)

27. Timberwolves draft Terrence Shannon Jr. (Illinois)

28. Nuggets draft Ryan Dunn (Virginia) — Traded to Suns

29. Jazz draft Isaiah Collier (USC)

30. Celtics draft Baylor Scheierman (Creighton)

Second Round

31. Raptors draft Jonathan Mogbo (San Francisco)

32. Jazz draft Kyle Filipowski (Duke)

33. Bucks draft Tyler Smith (G League Ignite)

34. Trail Blazers draft Tyler Kolek (Marquette) — Traded to Knicks

35. Spurs draft Johnny Furphy (Kansas) — Traded to Pacers

36. Pacers draft Juan Nunez (Ratiopharm Ulm) — Traded to Spurs

37. Timberwolves draft Bobi Klintman (Cairns) — Traded to Pistons

38. Knicks draft Ajay Mitchell (UC Santa Barbara) — Traded to Thunder

39. Grizzlies draft Jaylen Wells (Washington State)

40. Trail Blazers draft Oso Ighodaro (Marquette) — Traded to Suns (via Knicks)

41. 76ers draft Adem Bona (UCLA)

42. Hornets draft KJ Simpson (Colorado)

43. Heat draft Nikola Djurisic (KK Mega Basket) — Traded to Hawks (via Heat)

44. Rockets draft Pelle Larsson (Arizona) — Traded to Heat (via Rockets)

45. Kings draft Jamal Shead (Houston) — Traded to Raptors

46. Clippers draft Cam Christie (Minnesota)

47. Magic draft Antonio Reeves (Kentucky) — Traded to Pelicans

48. Spurs draft Harrison Ingram (North Carolina)

49. Pacers draft Tristen Newton (Connecticut)

50. Pacers draft Enrique Freeman (Akron)

51. Knicks draft Melvin Ajinca (Saint-Quentin Basketball) — Traded to Mavericks

52. Warriors draft Quinten Post (Boston College) — Traded to Thunder, then to Blazers, then to Warriors

53. Pistons draft Cam Spencer (Connecticut) — Traded to Grizzlies (via Timberwolves)

54. Celtics draft Anton Watson (Gonzaga)

55. Lakers draft Bronny James (USC)

56. Suns draft Kevin McCullar Jr. (Kansas) — Traded to Knicks

57. Grizzlies draft Ulrich Chomche (NBA Academy Africa) — Traded to Raptors (via Timberwolves)

58. Mavericks draft Ariel Hukporti (MHP Riesen) — Traded to Knicks





6'8" in shoes, starting for the Grizz now. So, all the wheeling and dealing they did to get Pacome on a lower salary, they could have just traded out the first round and taken Wells in the second as he's already making less. I figure they like Pacome, but taking him reminds me of when they took Keels, you know the coach isn't going to play/develop a 19-20 year old project so why even take them?

The 2023 draft when we didn't have a pick had Camara, GG Jackson going in the second round. There's almost always some 6'7+ guy dropping in the draft, it's why the Grizz / Rockets / Hawks / Magic have so many of them, they clearly prioritize finding these player types, if they don't develop oh well, if they do develop then you have a highly valued asset.

They're good at finding combo guards, but time to switch it up and go after some big wings that will actually make it into the rotation.


All makes sense but you know you are mentioning like 1 guy in the entire 2nd round each year so we aren't talking about passing up on multiple players...there seems to be 1 guy in each 2nd round that might fit the qualifications of a bigger wing lke Wells or Camara. Its not like you are passing on multiple. I mean we can both do the odds behind that...what is that like 2% chance when factor in late 1st round picks as well.

Also who was banging down the door of Wells pre draft? I say he was a D II prospect that transferred to Washington State until one ok season. He had some measurables and showed some promise I just don't remember his name much. Of course the org could do a better job trying to find these guys from smaller schools. But its not a huge group to pick from.
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Post#170 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:42 pm

Not that it’s a big deal since they are 3rd stringers at best but would rather have Sims over Wright. Maybe there will be something else though
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#171 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:45 pm

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I think it goes back to the dearth in the NBA and the dearth that comes out every year in the draft...is any team good at finding 6'6 6'9 players later in the draft?

typically guys that fall are rim running type bigs and smaller guards that might have some potential.

If a player has any potential as a bigger wing they usually are a lotto pick and a lot of those guys are hit and miss.

Just look at the draft after pick 25 who is even in that 6'6 to 6'9 range? Like I basically Ryan Dunn then a bunch of guards and bigs.


25. Knicks draft Pacome Dadiet (Ratiopharm Ulm)

26. Wizards draft Dillon Jones (Weber State) — Traded to Thunder (via Knicks)

27. Timberwolves draft Terrence Shannon Jr. (Illinois)

28. Nuggets draft Ryan Dunn (Virginia) — Traded to Suns

29. Jazz draft Isaiah Collier (USC)

30. Celtics draft Baylor Scheierman (Creighton)

Second Round

31. Raptors draft Jonathan Mogbo (San Francisco)

32. Jazz draft Kyle Filipowski (Duke)

33. Bucks draft Tyler Smith (G League Ignite)

34. Trail Blazers draft Tyler Kolek (Marquette) — Traded to Knicks

35. Spurs draft Johnny Furphy (Kansas) — Traded to Pacers

36. Pacers draft Juan Nunez (Ratiopharm Ulm) — Traded to Spurs

37. Timberwolves draft Bobi Klintman (Cairns) — Traded to Pistons

38. Knicks draft Ajay Mitchell (UC Santa Barbara) — Traded to Thunder

39. Grizzlies draft Jaylen Wells (Washington State)

40. Trail Blazers draft Oso Ighodaro (Marquette) — Traded to Suns (via Knicks)

41. 76ers draft Adem Bona (UCLA)

42. Hornets draft KJ Simpson (Colorado)

43. Heat draft Nikola Djurisic (KK Mega Basket) — Traded to Hawks (via Heat)

44. Rockets draft Pelle Larsson (Arizona) — Traded to Heat (via Rockets)

45. Kings draft Jamal Shead (Houston) — Traded to Raptors

46. Clippers draft Cam Christie (Minnesota)

47. Magic draft Antonio Reeves (Kentucky) — Traded to Pelicans

48. Spurs draft Harrison Ingram (North Carolina)

49. Pacers draft Tristen Newton (Connecticut)

50. Pacers draft Enrique Freeman (Akron)

51. Knicks draft Melvin Ajinca (Saint-Quentin Basketball) — Traded to Mavericks

52. Warriors draft Quinten Post (Boston College) — Traded to Thunder, then to Blazers, then to Warriors

53. Pistons draft Cam Spencer (Connecticut) — Traded to Grizzlies (via Timberwolves)

54. Celtics draft Anton Watson (Gonzaga)

55. Lakers draft Bronny James (USC)

56. Suns draft Kevin McCullar Jr. (Kansas) — Traded to Knicks

57. Grizzlies draft Ulrich Chomche (NBA Academy Africa) — Traded to Raptors (via Timberwolves)

58. Mavericks draft Ariel Hukporti (MHP Riesen) — Traded to Knicks





6'8" in shoes, starting for the Grizz now. So, all the wheeling and dealing they did to get Pacome on a lower salary, they could have just traded out the first round and taken Wells in the second as he's already making less. I figure they like Pacome, but taking him reminds me of when they took Keels, you know the coach isn't going to play/develop a 19-20 year old project so why even take them?

The 2023 draft when we didn't have a pick had Camara, GG Jackson going in the second round. There's almost always some 6'7+ guy dropping in the draft, it's why the Grizz / Rockets / Hawks / Magic have so many of them, they clearly prioritize finding these player types, if they don't develop oh well, if they do develop then you have a highly valued asset.

They're good at finding combo guards, but time to switch it up and go after some big wings that will actually make it into the rotation.


All makes sense but you know you are mentioning like 1 guy in the entire 2nd round each year so we aren't talking about passing up on multiple players...there seems to be 1 guy in each 2nd round that might fit the qualifications of a bigger wing lke Wells or Camara. Its not like you are passing on multiple. I mean we can both do the odds behind that...what is that like 2% chance when factor in late 1st round picks as well.

Also who was banging down the door of Wells pre draft? I say he was a D II prospect that transferred to Washington State until one ok season. He had some measurables and showed some promise I just don't remember his name much. Of course the org could do a better job trying to find these guys from smaller schools. But its not a huge group to pick from.





That's 2 guys, Dunn and Wells, if they were interested in a wing wouldn't it make sense to go after the 21 and 22 year olds in the draft? I will say again, why take the raw young project when you know the coach isn't going to even think of playing him, Pacome was 18 when we drafted him.

It's not our job to remember these guys, it's up to the front office. There's a clear pattern of targeting combo guards in the draft and free agency and that needs to change, we have two wings 6'6" or above on the entire roster that play in the rotation, that is crazy. It says a lot about the Grizz that they took GG Jackson and Jaylen Wells in back to back years. With OG being out our perimeter is tiny, and we all knew we needed another wing.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#172 » by JayTWill » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:45 pm

j4remi wrote:To be fair...Shamet's been terrible, so I suppose there's an opportunity for Wright to be better. But this isn't the return I was hoping for in a Sims trade...and all I wanted was a second-round pick or two. I guess Sims was a negative asset after all, so much for the rim protection stats Thibs kept gassing.


Thibs gassing those stats and then gluing him to the bench probably didn't help. I think the numbers actually show that the team performed better with Sims at the 5 instead of Precious. I know it was easy for some to hate on Sims and he shows nothing on offense but I would have been fine giving him minutes at the 5 until the trade deadline just to attempt to inflate his value. Thibs could have also used Precious more at the 4 next to KAT to rest the wings.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#174 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:05 pm

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6'8" in shoes, starting for the Grizz now. So, all the wheeling and dealing they did to get Pacome on a lower salary, they could have just traded out the first round and taken Wells in the second as he's already making less. I figure they like Pacome, but taking him reminds me of when they took Keels, you know the coach isn't going to play/develop a 19-20 year old project so why even take them?

The 2023 draft when we didn't have a pick had Camara, GG Jackson going in the second round. There's almost always some 6'7+ guy dropping in the draft, it's why the Grizz / Rockets / Hawks / Magic have so many of them, they clearly prioritize finding these player types, if they don't develop oh well, if they do develop then you have a highly valued asset.

They're good at finding combo guards, but time to switch it up and go after some big wings that will actually make it into the rotation.


All makes sense but you know you are mentioning like 1 guy in the entire 2nd round each year so we aren't talking about passing up on multiple players...there seems to be 1 guy in each 2nd round that might fit the qualifications of a bigger wing lke Wells or Camara. Its not like you are passing on multiple. I mean we can both do the odds behind that...what is that like 2% chance when factor in late 1st round picks as well.

Also who was banging down the door of Wells pre draft? I say he was a D II prospect that transferred to Washington State until one ok season. He had some measurables and showed some promise I just don't remember his name much. Of course the org could do a better job trying to find these guys from smaller schools. But its not a huge group to pick from.





That's 2 guys, Dunn and Wells, if they were interested in a wing wouldn't it make sense to go after the 21 and 22 year olds in the draft? I will say again, why take the raw young project when you know the coach isn't going to even think of playing him, Pacome was 18 when we drafted him.

It's not our job to remember these guys, it's up to the front office. There's a clear pattern of targeting combo guards in the draft and free agency and that needs to change, we have two wings 6'6" or above on the entire roster that play in the rotation, that is crazy. It says a lot about the Grizz that they took GG Jackson and Jaylen Wells in back to back years. With OG being out our perimeter is tiny, and we all knew we needed another wing.


I think they legit had interest in Dunn the CBA got in the way IMO. So they tried to find a bigger wing that was more raw because he would take less. So overall that impacted the KAT trade.

We could have legit when Wells over Kolek no doubt. But PG at the time was a need in terms of having depth behind Brunson.

I think two things can be true. We can do a better job of finding bigger wings...and also there are dearth of draftable wings every year because its the 2nd hardest archetype to find in the NBA.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#176 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:42 pm

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Not really when you are talking the new CBA. Aller is pretty well versed on these things. I say that because reports are we were talking KAT at draft time too. So it just didn't pull the trigger but we knew the financial avenues we need to take after the Mikal trade.

Again the Dadiet to Dunn was on the margins...but it certainly wasn't the risk of costing you the potential of adding KAT.

Not sure you can say that is being a moron...that is simply working under the restrictions of the new CBA.


They simply could have traded the pick if they needed to save money for a KAT trade.

yes they could have...but that is assuming they didn't like Dadiet...they might have liked him and Dunn pretty close but him giving them the 80% reduction probably made there mind up.

Jaylen Wells is probably the only one picked in the 2nd round that might be getting some run with us right now...but thats revisionist history how many people were banging down the door for Jaylen Wells pre draft?


I'm not assuming they didn't like Dadiet. I'm saying it's dumb to pass on talent over a few hundred thousand dollars. I hope that's not the case. It was 20-40% reduction in potential salary for one season. I'm sure they could have made that deal with most rookies if they needed to. We are a winning team that, as of late, many consider a title contender. Not to mention playing in MSG.

To your second point. What does that have to do with anything? We have a FRP not playing at all basically. We have 4 rookies who avg 1.4 mpg combined all season. :lol: Thibs gonna Thibs.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#177 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:20 pm

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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#178 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:44 pm

Pretty much hate this trade. Exactly what my biggest fear was.

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VERY thin up front. Sims, even if he was downgraded to our emergency big, had value.
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Re: Per Shams - Sims traded to MIL for Delon Wright 

Post#180 » by stuporman » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:30 am

Wright plays defense and hits a corner 3?
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