2025 Cap Primer

bluerap23 · Post #1 » by **bluerap23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:49 pm

This gives BI a 200M contract (AAV 40M)

YogurtProducer · Post #2 » by **YogurtProducer** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:50 pm

Can we flatten Ingrams deal or front load?

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #3 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:50 pm

Thanks for putting this together.

metafisical · Post #4 » by **metafisical** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:52 pm

I love the cap space in 2029-30. Hopefully we can fill the rest of the roster with only rookies and vet mins then.

douggood · Post #5 » by **douggood** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:53 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Can we flatten Ingrams deal or front load?

yes we can, it just puts us tighter cap situation next year.

bluerap23 · Post #6 » by **bluerap23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:54 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Can we flatten Ingrams deal or front load?

I think it depends on where the draft pick lands. We may need that space in 2025 if we land Flagg for example. #1 pick gets $11,521,600. The projection is for #5. If we fall to #8, for example, I think it flattens for sure.

redeye514 · Post #7 » by **redeye514** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:59 pm

As long as we’re below the tax line, I’m god. This seems alright and gives us a bit of wiggle room next year, depending on the Ingram deal.

gerrit4 · Post #8 » by **gerrit4** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:38 pm

Thanks for this. I thought that we'd need to trade RJ to stay under the tax. Seeing that it leaves us 7 mill under the tax makes me suspect we'll either offer more, or a flat offer.

I also have a feeling our FO will offer a bigger AAV for less years, similar to the Serge deal. For example, 4 years 180mill.

MessiahUjiri · Post #9 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:40 pm

I think he’s eligible for 3/$144M max.

I would puke if we gave him more than $40M AAV.

DreamTeam09 · Post #10 » by **DreamTeam09** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:43 pm

gerrit4 wrote:Thanks for this. I thought that we'd need to trade RJ to stay under the tax. Seeing that it leaves us 7 mill under the tax makes me suspect we'll either offer more, or a flat offer.

I also have a feeling our FO will offer a bigger AAV for less years, similar to the Serge deal. For example, 4 years 180mill.

I think the biggest extension we can give him is 3,yrs 150 right now or before FA. 3yrs 120-25 would be target I'm assuming

brownbobcat · Post #11 » by **brownbobcat** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:44 pm

bluerap23 wrote:This gives BI a 200M contract (AAV 40M)

Since they won't have any cap room, it makes more sense to gross-up the FRP salary by 20% over slot.

Parataxis · Post #12 » by **Parataxis** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:49 pm

Sorry, can you explain this a bit? The Guaranteed total is the amount for those 12 players that we have, right? (And I'm assuming the 'Inclusive Total' is if we pick up all options?

How is the Guaranteed Total + Min Roster the same value as the Guaranteed total? Wouldn't we need to sign at least two more guys to get up to 14?

bluerap23 wrote:This gives BI a 200M contract (AAV 40M)

RaptorLakerJay · Post #13 » by **RaptorLakerJay** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:03 pm

I heard that if we sign Ingram this off-season, it would put us as a 2nd apron team. Is this correct?

ontnut · Post #14 » by **ontnut** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:22 pm

RaptorLakerJay wrote:I heard that if we sign Ingram this off-season, it would put us as a 2nd apron team. Is this correct?

If he's signed to his full max which is $50m+, yes it is possible. But I think we're all believing that won't be the case...

ConSarnit · Post #15 » by **ConSarnit** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:26 pm

I'm going to assume Ingram gets more than $34m to start (that would be a paycut from his current 25% max deal which I don't see him going for). How many times have "all-stars" in their prime taken a paycut?

Imgram probably starts around $38m (same deal he got last time) and that will leave us very little room to add anyone else. We're going to be hard up for front court depth with Mogbo + min contract as our depth. Maybe this solved somewhat by drafting a big. The POR 2nd rounder is going to get around $1.5m.

We're probably looking at ~3m under the tax line and so that means Mitchell is gone and any signing will be a min guy (unless we pay the tax, which I doubt).

Tor_Raps · Post #16 » by **Tor_Raps** » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:29 am

Thanks for providing this, I was wondering if we became a tax team by re-signing Ingram next year. This will allow us to give the starting 5 a real chance together.

ForeverTFC · Post #17 » by **ForeverTFC** » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:43 am

Thanks for posting.

I'm hoping we can get Ingram on a 3/$110 (~$35m AAV). We only really have 1 move available to us at this point which is RJ. If we draft a PG, maybe IQ becomes expandable. I wonder if they extend Jakob this off-season.

sidsid · Post #18 » by **sidsid** » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:49 am

Is there a reason the 5th pick salary doesn't port to the future years?

TimeForChange · Post #19 » by **TimeForChange** » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:53 am

$7m under the tax but only 12 guaranteed contracts.

this also assumes the raps get the #5 pick. any higher and the cap room is even less.

I also don't think Ingram settles for $34m in year 1 of his deal.

Tor_Raps · Post #20 » by **Tor_Raps** » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:54 am

ForeverTFC wrote:Thanks for posting.

I'm hoping we can get Ingram on a 3/$110 (~$35m AAV). We only really have 1 move available to us at this point which is RJ. If we draft a PG, maybe IQ becomes expandable. I wonder if they extend Jakob this off-season.

Whoever we draft, aside from Cooper, would come off the bench in their first year. It would become obvious pretty fast on who the odd person out would be if it got to that stage.

Good teams let players outwork other players to earn their playing time. That's where I hope our team is next season instead of just handing guys playing time and hoping they earn it.