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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#521 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:42 am

Monte doing work. He won’t be fired anytime soon
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#522 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Feb 6, 2025 10:11 am

Val isn't the center we needed but the cost was too good to pass up and he's at least a capable backup and we can run a two-big lineup on occasion. We have a really terrible defensive team still and nothing has changed. In fact, none of our actual needs have been addressed one iota. You have to try really hard to go through a complete offseason, a draft, and a trade deadline and fail to do the very things that might improve us enough to make the 2nd round of the playoffs. McNair is a buffoon whether the owner directs some of his moves or not. I hope tomorrow brings a surprising move that makes me eat crow.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#523 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:50 pm

Big money……..

We are getting a solid piece today
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#524 » by OGSactownballer » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:34 pm

LaRavia is a sneaky quality add for virtually nothing.

At least we filled the b/u wing role and can field a little bit bigger lineup when needed.

Now a b/u PG (Reggie Jackson?) off the buy out market and hopefully we get really
Lucky and add just one more vet size guy from there as well.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#525 » by Silver Man » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:13 am

Never hurts adding another wing. Still don't like the Fox trade but the Jonas and LaRavia trade were solid.

In other news Jonas available to play tonight.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#526 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:20 am

OGSactownballer wrote:LaRavia is a sneaky quality add for virtually nothing.

At least we filled the b/u wing role and can field a little bit bigger lineup when needed.

Now a b/u PG (Reggie Jackson?) off the buy out market and hopefully we get really
Lucky and add just one more vet size guy from there as well.


I want to shoot for more than Reggie. I really want Marcus Smart. We need another defender, and he can facilitate. He's having a really down year, but man he brings the energy and attitude this team wants.

I hope LaRavia can pan out, and Kings can sign him to some 2/10 deal after this season, where he gets an opt out. Then if he pans out we give him a raise in a year, or he opts in and gets more money from us.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#527 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:59 am

LaRavia very solid

Overall good deadline for Monte
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#528 » by Silver Man » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:25 am

BoogieTime wrote:LaRavia very solid

Overall good deadline for Monte


Solid's a bit too far unless you want to go off the Monte absolutely had to give up Fox to get something angle.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#529 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:50 am

Blow up post:

Sabonis to Portland for Ayton + 3 1st round picks.
Sabonis gets to play on a perfect fitting team, where he grew up.

Demar for miles bridges
Charlotte gets an adult in the room. Kings try to revamp miles career, let Keegan play his actual position.

Monk for Anthony black and Cole Anthony
Monk is a great piece for Orlando. Can go back to secondary playmaking

Jval anywhere for 2 2nds back

Next year
Ayton/Isaac Jones
Miles bridges
Keegan murray
Keon ellis/Lavine
Black/Carter

2 top 10 picks (ours + portland)
Draft 2 wings straight away. You have 2 years of lavine, bridges, ayton. During that time you develop the kids. The 2 top 10 picks + Keon + Keegan + carter.

Do nothing in FA. Just stockpile young guys. Develop hard. Maybe In a year you can trade bridges and ayton to teams at the deadline.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#530 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:24 am

LightTheBeam wrote:Blow up post:

Sabonis to Portland for Ayton + 3 1st round picks.
Sabonis gets to play on a perfect fitting team, where he grew up.

Demar for miles bridges
Charlotte gets an adult in the room. Kings try to revamp miles career, let Keegan play his actual position.

Monk for Anthony black and Cole Anthony
Monk is a great piece for Orlando. Can go back to secondary playmaking

Jval anywhere for 2 2nds back

Next year
Ayton/Isaac Jones
Miles bridges
Keegan murray
Keon ellis/Lavine
Black/Carter

2 top 10 picks (ours + portland)
Draft 2 wings straight away. You have 2 years of lavine, bridges, ayton. During that time you develop the kids. The 2 top 10 picks + Keon + Keegan + carter.

Do nothing in FA. Just stockpile young guys. Develop hard. Maybe In a year you can trade bridges and ayton to teams at the deadline.


There is no reality to this

Blow up will be decided in a year or two after the core, improvements, new coach etc fail

Not after two games with no practice or all players losing to the leagues hottest team at the wire
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Post#531 » by OxAndFox » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:25 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:Val isn't the center we needed but the cost was too good to pass up and he's at least a capable backup and we can run a two-big lineup on occasion. We have a really terrible defensive team still and nothing has changed. In fact, none of our actual needs have been addressed one iota. You have to try really hard to go through a complete offseason, a draft, and a trade deadline and fail to do the very things that might improve us enough to make the 2nd round of the playoffs. McNair is a buffoon whether the owner directs some of his moves or not. I hope tomorrow brings a surprising move that makes me eat crow.

So since the PO season the Kings have gone through.

2023 POs 9 man rotation where the Kings found out they desperately needed more length and defensive players
Fox/Mitchell
Huerter/Monk/Davis
Keegan
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

'23 Off Season - Added and then mismanaged a sharp shooter, but that didn't address any needs.
'23 Draft - Traded pick #24
'23/24 Trade Deadline - Added no one
'24 Off Season - Added DDR which didn't address any needs
'24 Draft - Selected another guard, and yet another small one at that, didn't address any needs
'24 Trade Deadline - traded for 6'7'' Jake LaRavia and a guy that plays the position of your best player in Val, which is a decent pick up, but it still needs to work with enough minutes to a guy that deserves them. Still no size at the position of need.

I mentioned prior to the season, the only way you can do this is to deliberately do it. It's not a coincidence at this point, it's a strategy. And a poor one at that, and at this point I am starting to question the basketball knowledge of the people in charge.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#532 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:38 am

BoogieTime wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:Blow up post:

Sabonis to Portland for Ayton + 3 1st round picks.
Sabonis gets to play on a perfect fitting team, where he grew up.

Demar for miles bridges
Charlotte gets an adult in the room. Kings try to revamp miles career, let Keegan play his actual position.

Monk for Anthony black and Cole Anthony
Monk is a great piece for Orlando. Can go back to secondary playmaking

Jval anywhere for 2 2nds back

Next year
Ayton/Isaac Jones
Miles bridges
Keegan murray
Keon ellis/Lavine
Black/Carter

2 top 10 picks (ours + portland)
Draft 2 wings straight away. You have 2 years of lavine, bridges, ayton. During that time you develop the kids. The 2 top 10 picks + Keon + Keegan + carter.

Do nothing in FA. Just stockpile young guys. Develop hard. Maybe In a year you can trade bridges and ayton to teams at the deadline.


There is no reality to this

Blow up will be decided in a year or two after the core, improvements, new coach etc fail

Not after two games with no practice or all players losing to the leagues hottest team at the wire


Add spo to this team. What's the ceiling? 1st round exit? There's no future. Maybe you can trade demar + Carter into a stud wing like Deni. And then you need a real point guard also.

Right now you have a team built around 5 shooting guards + an undersized center. It doesn't work.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#533 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:43 am

OxAndFox wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Val isn't the center we needed but the cost was too good to pass up and he's at least a capable backup and we can run a two-big lineup on occasion. We have a really terrible defensive team still and nothing has changed. In fact, none of our actual needs have been addressed one iota. You have to try really hard to go through a complete offseason, a draft, and a trade deadline and fail to do the very things that might improve us enough to make the 2nd round of the playoffs. McNair is a buffoon whether the owner directs some of his moves or not. I hope tomorrow brings a surprising move that makes me eat crow.

So since the PO season the Kings have gone through.

2023 POs 9 man rotation where the Kings found out they desperately needed more length and defensive players
Fox/Mitchell
Huerter/Monk/Davis
Keegan
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

'23 Off Season - Added and then mismanaged a sharp shooter, but that didn't address any needs.
'23 Draft - Traded pick #24
'23/24 Trade Deadline - Added no one
'24 Off Season - Added DDR which didn't address any needs
'24 Draft - Selected another guard, and yet another small one at that, didn't address any needs
'24 Trade Deadline - traded for 6'7'' Jake LaRavia and a guy that plays the position of your best player in Val, which is a decent pick up, but it still needs to work with enough minutes to a guy that deserves them. Still no size at the position of need.

I mentioned prior to the season, the only way you can do this is to deliberately do it. It's not a coincidence at this point, it's a strategy. And a poor one at that, and at this point I am starting to question the basketball knowledge of the people in charge.


Going after derozan instead of something like Finney Smith is malpractice. Starting monk instead of Keon is the same.

The writing was on the wall over the offseason.

Draft Da Silva
Trade Barnes + a pick for DFS
Sign a better backup center than Len, literally could have used MLE on Jval then.
Could have kept the 2nds + davion also since you wouldn't need the space.

Sabonis/JVal
Finney/Lyles
Keegan/Da Silva
Keon/Monk
Fox/Davion

Like i guarantee this would have kept Fox engaged and excited. We would have been a top 12 defensive team. This would 100% be a 2nd round team with room to grow.

But its like you said, at every step of the way they prioritized offense and small guards. And now a blow up is inevitable
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Post#534 » by OxAndFox » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:40 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Val isn't the center we needed but the cost was too good to pass up and he's at least a capable backup and we can run a two-big lineup on occasion. We have a really terrible defensive team still and nothing has changed. In fact, none of our actual needs have been addressed one iota. You have to try really hard to go through a complete offseason, a draft, and a trade deadline and fail to do the very things that might improve us enough to make the 2nd round of the playoffs. McNair is a buffoon whether the owner directs some of his moves or not. I hope tomorrow brings a surprising move that makes me eat crow.

So since the PO season the Kings have gone through.

2023 POs 9 man rotation where the Kings found out they desperately needed more length and defensive players
Fox/Mitchell
Huerter/Monk/Davis
Keegan
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

'23 Off Season - Added and then mismanaged a sharp shooter, but that didn't address any needs.
'23 Draft - Traded pick #24
'23/24 Trade Deadline - Added no one
'24 Off Season - Added DDR which didn't address any needs
'24 Draft - Selected another guard, and yet another small one at that, didn't address any needs
'24 Trade Deadline - traded for 6'7'' Jake LaRavia and a guy that plays the position of your best player in Val, which is a decent pick up, but it still needs to work with enough minutes to a guy that deserves them. Still no size at the position of need.

I mentioned prior to the season, the only way you can do this is to deliberately do it. It's not a coincidence at this point, it's a strategy. And a poor one at that, and at this point I am starting to question the basketball knowledge of the people in charge.


Going after derozan instead of something like Finney Smith is malpractice. Starting monk instead of Keon is the same.

The writing was on the wall over the offseason.

Draft Da Silva
Trade Barnes + a pick for DFS
Sign a better backup center than Len, literally could have used MLE on Jval then.
Could have kept the 2nds + davion also since you wouldn't need the space.

Sabonis/JVal
Finney/Lyles
Keegan/Da Silva
Keon/Monk
Fox/Davion

Like i guarantee this would have kept Fox engaged and excited. We would have been a top 12 defensive team. This would 100% be a 2nd round team with room to grow.

But its like you said, at every step of the way they prioritized offense and small guards. And now a blow up is inevitable


Correct. And the absolute key to that is Fox. Maybe the Peanut Brain Motor Complex was the simple fact he has been begging the Kings to go and get some defensive help. But no, no, no, we need more scoring. Fox and Monk combined for more than 36ppg in the POs despite Fox's broken finger. We knew what they can do with everything on them in the POs and Sabonis wouldn't lay an egg offensively like he did that series again. The other offense can come from Keegan and the other defensive players you bring in. It's seriously like the Kings pigeon hole all of their players into 1 side of the court. If you defend, you can show some things on offense, but that's not your role. If you are a scorer, you can spend some energy on the defensive end occasionally, but that's not your role. Meanwhile, in the NBA, it's the complete opposite.

Like, the only thing that beat us in that PO series, outside of Mike Brown sitting there in amazement at his Warrior friends, and allowing Steph to go for 50, was the D. It should have been so freaking obvious. And I'm not going to bag Brown out about the D either though, because I'm sure he was on the get more defenders. THAT'S what he and Fox had a connection over. Mike was like, I'm going to make you a superstar, but we just need defenders around you and Domas. Anyway. Have at it Kings fans. The wagon is hitched to Lavine and DDR for the next season and a half. Although didn't DDR basically say he wasn't sure about being here without Fox? Hmmm, might be a little bit of lip service like him talking about D.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#535 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:44 am

OxAndFox wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:So since the PO season the Kings have gone through.

2023 POs 9 man rotation where the Kings found out they desperately needed more length and defensive players
Fox/Mitchell
Huerter/Monk/Davis
Keegan
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

'23 Off Season - Added and then mismanaged a sharp shooter, but that didn't address any needs.
'23 Draft - Traded pick #24
'23/24 Trade Deadline - Added no one
'24 Off Season - Added DDR which didn't address any needs
'24 Draft - Selected another guard, and yet another small one at that, didn't address any needs
'24 Trade Deadline - traded for 6'7'' Jake LaRavia and a guy that plays the position of your best player in Val, which is a decent pick up, but it still needs to work with enough minutes to a guy that deserves them. Still no size at the position of need.

I mentioned prior to the season, the only way you can do this is to deliberately do it. It's not a coincidence at this point, it's a strategy. And a poor one at that, and at this point I am starting to question the basketball knowledge of the people in charge.


Going after derozan instead of something like Finney Smith is malpractice. Starting monk instead of Keon is the same.

The writing was on the wall over the offseason.

Draft Da Silva
Trade Barnes + a pick for DFS
Sign a better backup center than Len, literally could have used MLE on Jval then.
Could have kept the 2nds + davion also since you wouldn't need the space.

Sabonis/JVal
Finney/Lyles
Keegan/Da Silva
Keon/Monk
Fox/Davion

Like i guarantee this would have kept Fox engaged and excited. We would have been a top 12 defensive team. This would 100% be a 2nd round team with room to grow.

But its like you said, at every step of the way they prioritized offense and small guards. And now a blow up is inevitable


Correct. And the absolute key to that is Fox. Maybe the Peanut Brain Motor Complex was the simple fact he has been begging the Kings to go and get some defensive help. But no, no, no, we need more scoring. Fox and Monk combined for more than 36ppg in the POs despite Fox's broken finger. We knew what they can do with everything on them in the POs and Sabonis wouldn't lay an egg offensively like he did that series again. The other offense can come from Keegan and the other defensive players you bring in. It's seriously like the Kings pigeon hole all of their players into 1 side of the court. If you defend, you can show some things on offense, but that's not your role. If you are a scorer, you can spend some energy on the defensive end occasionally, but that's not your role. Meanwhile, in the NBA, it's the complete opposite.

Like, the only thing that beat us in that PO series, outside of Mike Brown sitting there in amazement at his Warrior friends, and allowing Steph to go for 50, was the D. It should have been so freaking obvious. And I'm not going to bag Brown out about the D either though, because I'm sure he was on the get more defenders. THAT'S what he and Fox had a connection over. Mike was like, I'm going to make you a superstar, but we just need defenders around you and Domas. Anyway. Have at it Kings fans. The wagon is hitched to Lavine and DDR for the next season and a half. Although didn't DDR basically say he wasn't sure about being here without Fox? Hmmm, might be a little bit of lip service like him talking about D.


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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#536 » by OxAndFox » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:47 am

BoogieTime wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
Going after derozan instead of something like Finney Smith is malpractice. Starting monk instead of Keon is the same.

The writing was on the wall over the offseason.

Draft Da Silva
Trade Barnes + a pick for DFS
Sign a better backup center than Len, literally could have used MLE on Jval then.
Could have kept the 2nds + davion also since you wouldn't need the space.

Sabonis/JVal
Finney/Lyles
Keegan/Da Silva
Keon/Monk
Fox/Davion

Like i guarantee this would have kept Fox engaged and excited. We would have been a top 12 defensive team. This would 100% be a 2nd round team with room to grow.

But its like you said, at every step of the way they prioritized offense and small guards. And now a blow up is inevitable


Correct. And the absolute key to that is Fox. Maybe the Peanut Brain Motor Complex was the simple fact he has been begging the Kings to go and get some defensive help. But no, no, no, we need more scoring. Fox and Monk combined for more than 36ppg in the POs despite Fox's broken finger. We knew what they can do with everything on them in the POs and Sabonis wouldn't lay an egg offensively like he did that series again. The other offense can come from Keegan and the other defensive players you bring in. It's seriously like the Kings pigeon hole all of their players into 1 side of the court. If you defend, you can show some things on offense, but that's not your role. If you are a scorer, you can spend some energy on the defensive end occasionally, but that's not your role. Meanwhile, in the NBA, it's the complete opposite.

Like, the only thing that beat us in that PO series, outside of Mike Brown sitting there in amazement at his Warrior friends, and allowing Steph to go for 50, was the D. It should have been so freaking obvious. And I'm not going to bag Brown out about the D either though, because I'm sure he was on the get more defenders. THAT'S what he and Fox had a connection over. Mike was like, I'm going to make you a superstar, but we just need defenders around you and Domas. Anyway. Have at it Kings fans. The wagon is hitched to Lavine and DDR for the next season and a half. Although didn't DDR basically say he wasn't sure about being here without Fox? Hmmm, might be a little bit of lip service like him talking about D.


This…., has been reported multiple times

And there is nothing he can tell me about basketball


BAHAHA. I was responding to LTB. You don't have to keep reporting. Feels like a RealGKaren would be doing these types of things. Next thing you know you will be threatening to put a poll of some sort up.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#537 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 11:21 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:Blow up post:

Sabonis to Portland for Ayton + 3 1st round picks.
Sabonis gets to play on a perfect fitting team, where he grew up.

Demar for miles bridges
Charlotte gets an adult in the room. Kings try to revamp miles career, let Keegan play his actual position.

Monk for Anthony black and Cole Anthony
Monk is a great piece for Orlando. Can go back to secondary playmaking

Jval anywhere for 2 2nds back

Next year
Ayton/Isaac Jones
Miles bridges
Keegan murray
Keon ellis/Lavine
Black/Carter

2 top 10 picks (ours + portland)
Draft 2 wings straight away. You have 2 years of lavine, bridges, ayton. During that time you develop the kids. The 2 top 10 picks + Keon + Keegan + carter.

Do nothing in FA. Just stockpile young guys. Develop hard. Maybe In a year you can trade bridges and ayton to teams at the deadline.


There is no reality to this

Blow up will be decided in a year or two after the core, improvements, new coach etc fail

Not after two games with no practice or all players losing to the leagues hottest team at the wire


Add spo to this team. What's the ceiling? 1st round exit? There's no future. Maybe you can trade demar + Carter into a stud wing like Deni. And then you need a real point guard also.

Right now you have a team built around 5 shooting guards + an undersized center. It doesn't work.


Whether or not you think that, management just put this team together

Or did you think that they thought to themselves, “after no practice and not even acquiring all the players we’ve traded for I’m ready to blow up what I just put together after this b2b loss to hot Portland”
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#538 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:40 pm

OxAndFox wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:So since the PO season the Kings have gone through.

2023 POs 9 man rotation where the Kings found out they desperately needed more length and defensive players
Fox/Mitchell
Huerter/Monk/Davis
Keegan
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

'23 Off Season - Added and then mismanaged a sharp shooter, but that didn't address any needs.
'23 Draft - Traded pick #24
'23/24 Trade Deadline - Added no one
'24 Off Season - Added DDR which didn't address any needs
'24 Draft - Selected another guard, and yet another small one at that, didn't address any needs
'24 Trade Deadline - traded for 6'7'' Jake LaRavia and a guy that plays the position of your best player in Val, which is a decent pick up, but it still needs to work with enough minutes to a guy that deserves them. Still no size at the position of need.

I mentioned prior to the season, the only way you can do this is to deliberately do it. It's not a coincidence at this point, it's a strategy. And a poor one at that, and at this point I am starting to question the basketball knowledge of the people in charge.


Going after derozan instead of something like Finney Smith is malpractice. Starting monk instead of Keon is the same.

The writing was on the wall over the offseason.

Draft Da Silva
Trade Barnes + a pick for DFS
Sign a better backup center than Len, literally could have used MLE on Jval then.
Could have kept the 2nds + davion also since you wouldn't need the space.

Sabonis/JVal
Finney/Lyles
Keegan/Da Silva
Keon/Monk
Fox/Davion

Like i guarantee this would have kept Fox engaged and excited. We would have been a top 12 defensive team. This would 100% be a 2nd round team with room to grow.

But its like you said, at every step of the way they prioritized offense and small guards. And now a blow up is inevitable


Correct. And the absolute key to that is Fox. Maybe the Peanut Brain Motor Complex was the simple fact he has been begging the Kings to go and get some defensive help. But no, no, no, we need more scoring. Fox and Monk combined for more than 36ppg in the POs despite Fox's broken finger. We knew what they can do with everything on them in the POs and Sabonis wouldn't lay an egg offensively like he did that series again. The other offense can come from Keegan and the other defensive players you bring in. It's seriously like the Kings pigeon hole all of their players into 1 side of the court. If you defend, you can show some things on offense, but that's not your role. If you are a scorer, you can spend some energy on the defensive end occasionally, but that's not your role. Meanwhile, in the NBA, it's the complete opposite.

Like, the only thing that beat us in that PO series, outside of Mike Brown sitting there in amazement at his Warrior friends, and allowing Steph to go for 50, was the D. It should have been so freaking obvious. And I'm not going to bag Brown out about the D either though, because I'm sure he was on the get more defenders. THAT'S what he and Fox had a connection over. Mike was like, I'm going to make you a superstar, but we just need defenders around you and Domas. Anyway. Have at it Kings fans. The wagon is hitched to Lavine and DDR for the next season and a half. Although didn't DDR basically say he wasn't sure about being here without Fox? Hmmm, might be a little bit of lip service like him talking about D.


He innately took quarters/games and appeared to play half azz for most of his career. From being outright bad for entire years, til coasting to the 4th quarter in his one good year under Brown, to outright not showing up for portions of seasons the last two years. Stripes on the leopard

Which everyone understood but his fans. Not even worth debating if someone noticed that

I expect him to do well early in San Antonio, as he is Uber talented when the motor is sparked, everyone knew that. But over the long haul, when the trade excitement dies down and the motivation wears off… could be like he was here the last three years. Good year one under Brown and a sub efficient not worth max the next two years that took swaths of the season off

Things like getting defenders shouldn’t have to motivate you. Nothing should. Ballers play hard because that’s what they do, only certain players need their candles lit and it doesn’t typically last linear. I didn’t see Domas playing half azz because of lack of structure. Imagine Kyrie, SGA etc playing negatively because of external stimuli, not in their dna
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#539 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:13 pm

BoogieTime wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
Going after derozan instead of something like Finney Smith is malpractice. Starting monk instead of Keon is the same.

The writing was on the wall over the offseason.

Draft Da Silva
Trade Barnes + a pick for DFS
Sign a better backup center than Len, literally could have used MLE on Jval then.
Could have kept the 2nds + davion also since you wouldn't need the space.

Sabonis/JVal
Finney/Lyles
Keegan/Da Silva
Keon/Monk
Fox/Davion

Like i guarantee this would have kept Fox engaged and excited. We would have been a top 12 defensive team. This would 100% be a 2nd round team with room to grow.

But its like you said, at every step of the way they prioritized offense and small guards. And now a blow up is inevitable


Correct. And the absolute key to that is Fox. Maybe the Peanut Brain Motor Complex was the simple fact he has been begging the Kings to go and get some defensive help. But no, no, no, we need more scoring. Fox and Monk combined for more than 36ppg in the POs despite Fox's broken finger. We knew what they can do with everything on them in the POs and Sabonis wouldn't lay an egg offensively like he did that series again. The other offense can come from Keegan and the other defensive players you bring in. It's seriously like the Kings pigeon hole all of their players into 1 side of the court. If you defend, you can show some things on offense, but that's not your role. If you are a scorer, you can spend some energy on the defensive end occasionally, but that's not your role. Meanwhile, in the NBA, it's the complete opposite.

Like, the only thing that beat us in that PO series, outside of Mike Brown sitting there in amazement at his Warrior friends, and allowing Steph to go for 50, was the D. It should have been so freaking obvious. And I'm not going to bag Brown out about the D either though, because I'm sure he was on the get more defenders. THAT'S what he and Fox had a connection over. Mike was like, I'm going to make you a superstar, but we just need defenders around you and Domas. Anyway. Have at it Kings fans. The wagon is hitched to Lavine and DDR for the next season and a half. Although didn't DDR basically say he wasn't sure about being here without Fox? Hmmm, might be a little bit of lip service like him talking about D.


He innately took quarters/games and appeared to play half azz for most of his career. From being outright bad for entire years, til coasting to the 4th quarter in his one good year under Brown, to outright not showing up for portions of seasons the last two years. Stripes on the leopard

Which everyone understood but his fans. Not even worth debating if someone noticed that

I expect him to do well early in San Antonio, as he is Uber talented when the motor is sparked, everyone knew that. But over the long haul, when the trade excitement dies down and the motivation wears off… could be like he was here the last three years. Good year one under Brown and a sub efficient not worth max the next two years that took swaths of the season off

Things like getting defenders shouldn’t have to motivate you. Nothing should. Ballers play hard because that’s what they do, only certain players need their candles lit and it doesn’t typically last linear. I didn’t see Domas playing half azz because of lack of structure. Imagine Kyrie, SGA etc playing negatively because of external stimuli, not in their dna


Im not sure if you just started watching basketball.

Jimmy, Harden, KD, Kyrie, and countless others have dragged ass to leave a situation.

When you've given 7.5 years to an organization that has failed at every step of the way, eventually you check out.

But you were wrong ebery step of the way.
1. Team will be better getting rid of "low iq negative fox"
2. Monk is better with ball in his hands as the lead guard
3. Demar needs to stick around

You hate on keegan, you hated on Keon. You might actually be monte mcnair, trying to convince us that building the 2022 bulls was a good idea.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#540 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:22 pm

LightTheBeam wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
Correct. And the absolute key to that is Fox. Maybe the Peanut Brain Motor Complex was the simple fact he has been begging the Kings to go and get some defensive help. But no, no, no, we need more scoring. Fox and Monk combined for more than 36ppg in the POs despite Fox's broken finger. We knew what they can do with everything on them in the POs and Sabonis wouldn't lay an egg offensively like he did that series again. The other offense can come from Keegan and the other defensive players you bring in. It's seriously like the Kings pigeon hole all of their players into 1 side of the court. If you defend, you can show some things on offense, but that's not your role. If you are a scorer, you can spend some energy on the defensive end occasionally, but that's not your role. Meanwhile, in the NBA, it's the complete opposite.

Like, the only thing that beat us in that PO series, outside of Mike Brown sitting there in amazement at his Warrior friends, and allowing Steph to go for 50, was the D. It should have been so freaking obvious. And I'm not going to bag Brown out about the D either though, because I'm sure he was on the get more defenders. THAT'S what he and Fox had a connection over. Mike was like, I'm going to make you a superstar, but we just need defenders around you and Domas. Anyway. Have at it Kings fans. The wagon is hitched to Lavine and DDR for the next season and a half. Although didn't DDR basically say he wasn't sure about being here without Fox? Hmmm, might be a little bit of lip service like him talking about D.


He innately took quarters/games and appeared to play half azz for most of his career. From being outright bad for entire years, til coasting to the 4th quarter in his one good year under Brown, to outright not showing up for portions of seasons the last two years. Stripes on the leopard

Which everyone understood but his fans. Not even worth debating if someone noticed that

I expect him to do well early in San Antonio, as he is Uber talented when the motor is sparked, everyone knew that. But over the long haul, when the trade excitement dies down and the motivation wears off… could be like he was here the last three years. Good year one under Brown and a sub efficient not worth max the next two years that took swaths of the season off

Things like getting defenders shouldn’t have to motivate you. Nothing should. Ballers play hard because that’s what they do, only certain players need their candles lit and it doesn’t typically last linear. I didn’t see Domas playing half azz because of lack of structure. Imagine Kyrie, SGA etc playing negatively because of external stimuli, not in their dna


Im not sure if you just started watching basketball.

Jimmy, Harden, KD, Kyrie, and countless others have dragged ass to leave a situation.

When you've given 7.5 years to an organization that has failed at every step of the way, eventually you check out.

But you were wrong ebery step of the way.
1. Team will be better getting rid of "low iq negative fox"
2. Monk is better with ball in his hands as the lead guard
3. Demar needs to stick around

You hate on keegan, you hated on Keon. You might actually be monte mcnair, trying to convince us that building the 2022 bulls was a good idea.


He was born checked out. Every year he’s demonstrated low motor, from his very bad rookie season, to taking games off in his meteoric second year. Onwards

There is nothing to be deemed from these two games. And you annoyingly analyzing a team thrown together is that

The team was better without Fox this year, and Fox is a negative contributor the last two years

I don’t care about the interview DeRozan is a talented vet on/off the floor, though might need a bench role

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