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Post#21 » by MartinToVaught » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:13 am

madmaxmedia wrote:At least we're not the Phoenix Suns LOL.

We're arguably worse off than the Suns. Both teams overleveraged their futures for an average-at-best team, but the difference is that if the Suns ever stop deluding themselves about their situation, they can trade Booker for a significant haul of draft picks. We're the retirement home of the NBA full of guys in their mid-30s with diminishing value, so we don't have an asset like Booker. And when we do luck into a player (like Norm) whose value is the highest it'll ever be, we refuse to even sell high on them when the team's going nowhere.
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Post#22 » by madmaxmedia » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:30 am

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madmaxmedia wrote:At least we're not the Phoenix Suns LOL.

We're arguably worse off than the Suns. Both teams overleveraged their futures for an average-at-best team, but the difference is that if the Suns ever stop deluding themselves about their situation, they can trade Booker for a significant haul of draft picks. We're the retirement home of the NBA full of guys in their mid-30s with diminishing value, so we don't have an asset like Booker. And when we do luck into a player (like Norm) whose value is the highest it'll ever be, we refuse to even sell high on them when the team's going nowhere.


They could get a good package back, but the picks they would be getting back wouldn’t make up for their deficit.

Their 2025, 2027, 2029, and 2031 1sts are gone, with complicated swaps for the others through 2030 (each swap involves 3 teams or more, with them getting the worst in each year.) They did get 3 likely worst 1sts for their original 2031 pick.

They also have Bradley Beal for 2 more years, along with his NTC. I’d rather have Kawhi than Beal, and our current team than their current team, which is in the 2nd apron. Their big mistake was trading for Beal, ours would have been re-signing PG.

TBH we are not that far off from each other. Our draft stockpile is pretty bare too, but their overall situation is worse IMO.
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Post#23 » by KL2 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:42 am

Any reason the trades are not final yet?

Must be soon as Mann just tweeted this 20 minutes ago.

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Post#24 » by HardenGoat » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:50 am

Considering the limited assets the moves made were solid. Thank god they addressed the backup point guard. I think Bogi is a decent upgrade for limited guard minutes and in the playoffs. Iam banking on him playing better on this vet team and learning a thing or two from Harden as well on the journey. Our main issue right now is getting Kawhi back into terminator form and staying healthy. We also have to find our defense again and clean up the senseless turnovers. Team is kinda in a funk right now. Hopefully that happens down the stretch.
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Post#25 » by og15 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:55 pm

Hawks coach Quinn asking the management to go after a guy who torched him in a game in a playoff series (Mann), he's trying to re-create that one game fire ;)
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Post#26 » by esqtvd » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:37 pm

I was good with giving KPJ a full shot and also giving up on him. He produced, but in the end couldn't be trusted.

Mann was the exact opposite.
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Post#27 » by KL2 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:25 pm

The trade is now official too.

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Post#28 » by og15 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:37 pm

esqtvd wrote:I was good with giving KPJ a full shot and also giving up on him. He produced, but in the end couldn't be trusted.

Mann was the exact opposite.

Man can be trusted to not hurt you on the court (won't turn it over, won't take bad shots, will play disciplined and to the schemes on defense), but he can't be trusted to produce :lol:

Porter can be trusted to go out and try and get some numbers, but he can't be trusted to not hurt you with poor shot selection, sloppy turnovers and defensive mishaps :lol:

Yea, that about sums it up.
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Post#29 » by Clemenza » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:16 pm

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Post#30 » by KL2 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:49 pm

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KL2 wrote:Are we keeping him or waiving him? Bucks fans say he's awful. I think Christie and Flowers should get a shot before he does if Lue plans on playing him.


This is what Law Murray compares it to. I guess it’ll depend on other potential buyouts or if they want to convert Miller to a standard deal.

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that's quite odd- so because he wasn't playing he didn't keep himself in shape?
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Post#33 » by Captain Ballmer » Sat Feb 8, 2025 7:43 am

Part of Bogdan's struggles for this season could have been explained by age and injuries, but also remember that this (video below) incident between Bogi and Snyder happened by the end of last season and Quin Snyder wasn't a fan on Bogi at all after that. Nevertheless Bogi played great ball in the Paris Olimpics with Serbian National Team and yet Hawks dropped huge ball with not trading him when he's value at his peak. I'd expect at least slightly better Bogi (which is still way better than Mann or KPJ) with us.

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Post#34 » by KL2 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:29 pm

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that's quite odd- so because he wasn't playing he didn't keep himself in shape?


Not sure. I posted one of Laws tweets around here that said he’s missed the last 6 games due to personal reasons. Who knows if this was true or if they were trying to trade him. I’ll trust the Clippers know he’s healthy and just want to get him a couple practices and some cardio before throwing him out there. We don’t play again until Wednesday against Memphis but it’s also a b2b @ Utah Thursday. Then the all-star break. I’d like to believe he’ll play in one of those games but it would be the Clipper thing to do to hold him out until after the break.

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