Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Sign Pete Nance to 2-way

[tydett]

Just getting away from what anyone thinks of the basketball fit, if there were a better deal out there, etc. The framing of "lowering the tax bill" bugs me because it makes it seem like we did it just to save the owners some money, but as I understand it getting under the second apron right now is a pretty big deal both for this coming off season and potentially down the road as well as it had the potential to make our first round pick worse.

Being in the second apron is hard for the current team re: teambuilding and construction. Living in the second apron is crippling for a franchise. Very easy to see why they felt the need to get out of it, even if we all hate it.

[Turk Nowitzki]

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That's kind of a funny way to announce the signing. No exclamation. No excitement. Just "he's a Milwaukee Buck."

Especially since Kuzma and Sims got a "Welcome to Milwaukee"

[Ryan5UW]

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That's kind of a funny way to announce the signing. No exclamation. No excitement. Just "he's a Milwaukee Buck."

Some of their social media team isn't shy about sharing their political views online, so it wouldn't surprise me if whoever was posting this wasn't thrilled about his off the court stuff and didn't care about getting excited for this one lol

[MickeyDavis]

Don't give a **** about how a tweet is worded. Contributing more than MarJon is the goal and an easy one to obtain.

[BigO]

Maybe he does stay in front a bit more but has no jumping ability or driving ability. Ajax is a better rebounder and passer. He does try I give him credit for that but he is not a great option either Trent might be the best option since he’s got his confidence back. Maybe it’s the new kid porter got to see how he plays when he gets here.

Staying in front of guards to stop penetration is the Bucks biggest problem on defense. Ajax hasn't done that well, especially lately. His driving to the basket once or twice a game is a non factor.

I'd rather have Green fake his threes and step up for a two than rely on Ajax driving the ball. I don't think Ajax or Rollins are close to being playoff players. Green is a maybe.

I said a bit more but he struggles with it to fouling because he doesn’t have the foot speed Ajax can at least recover to contest with his length I might give Trent a try again though. Who do you think Doc will go with?

I don't know. I was hoping he'd go with Green. What's weird is that Doc starts Ajax in the beginning and the start of the second half and then pulls him after a while and he doesn't return. I'd play Green 25 to 30 minutes a game starting now and see how does, so by playoff time, we'll know if he is ready.

Ajax has the athleticism to stay in front of anyone. But his default is to rely on his athleticism and contest from behind, because it worked for him in college.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

For whatever it's worth, I don't read the deadline moves are prioritizing a lower tax bill. Not that they weren't happy to lower it if possible, but I think they wanted Kuzma, didn't think Khris had the juice to make it to June, and tried to open a 36-hour window where they could make more happen.

Off the top of my head, the only clear finance over competition move that I can remember them making (of any significance at least) was not bringing back PJ. Granted that one might have cost us another title.

This makes the move even less defensible.

we traded a guy who may have given us a better chance of winning any one series..... for a guy that gives us a better chance to win four series

its literally that simple.

keeping middleton around..... this team was never going to figure themselves out because night to night they had no idea who they were. roles constantly shifting. there was a domino effect here that literally was toxic to chemistry not the other way around. weve seen it both seasons in the dame era. we needed consistentcy even if the ceiling dropped marginally in any given game we can make up for that drop with consistentcy of just guys knowing their job and doing their job and looking around and seeing the same faces

[MickeyDavis]

Green MPG by month,
7.2
25.1
23.9
21.7
25.7

Hopefully it stays in the 25-30 MPG range the next 2 months.

[drdrG]

Again a set of moves coming from a place of desperation rather than strength. We have been backed into a corner repeatedly, losing value over and over. It comes with the territory when you're a small market that has a top 2 player in the league. I don't know who to blame. Horst, owners, Giannis, Khris, health misfortune all get some of it. It just hasn't been good enough if you're trying to win multiple championships.

Marjon - another complete bust.
Khris - sold so low on a championship level player it cost us a long-term upside asset

The moves make the top team younger, bigger, healthier and more athletic which was the proper directive but at the cost of basketball skill and chemistry. Probably lateral moves with enough variance to sell the fanbase on (we aren't falling for it here). I'm frustrated that our decade long inability to draft or develop and penchant for giving away assets and throwing in sweeteners like player options has finally eroded this outfit to the point that these moves were simply the best we could do.

[ShootingtheJ]

The one positive is we won't be wasting roster spots on buyout scrubs. No corpses of Gasol or Dragic. It would be cool if they cut Livingston, but only to pick up a more promising youngster. Also time to fill our 2 way spots with younger, more promising players.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

The one positive is we won't be wasting roster spots on buyout scrubs. No corpses of Gasol or Dragic. It would be cool if they cut Livingston, but only to pick up a more promising youngster. Also time to fill our 2 way spots with younger, more promising players.

man dont cut livingston.....im high on that kid. as high as anybody we got that age.

i wish wed give him some of ajax minutes. he can run and bang and guard as well as any of our kids. hell right now i think hes better than ajax if he had a consistent look out there

[Turk Nowitzki]

The one positive is we won't be wasting roster spots on buyout scrubs. No corpses of Gasol or Dragic. It would be cool if they cut Livingston, but only to pick up a more promising youngster. Also time to fill our 2 way spots with younger, more promising players.

Yeah getting Sims should hopefully be the end of Liam Robbins at the very least. Seems like a nice guy but that spot can be put to better use.

[soxperry]

that Ryan Rollins 4th year player option gonna hit like crack

[-Jragon-]

Don't give a **** about how a tweet is worded. Contributing more than MarJon is the goal and an easy one to obtain.

Yep, it would have been sad and disappointing if the deadline passed and nothing happened. Having that last trade showed that Horst was being active and likely had other possibilities that couldn't get worked out. KPJ as our back up PG is likely better than anyone we'd get on the buyout market. He also has shown flickers of star talent; this is on our vets and coaching staff to help him get his head in the right place and get past the off-court stuff and this can be a huge move.

[Finn]

It's funny, I am known as the pessimistic guy around here.

But I am also one of the few people around here who seems to thinks that Kuzma just might benefit and have more enthusiasm to play better basketball playing with Giannis & Dame as opposed to suiting up every night for the Washington Generals....I mean Wizards.

Windhorst said that the Mavs offered 2 first round picks for Kuzma a year ago.

I am willing to give it a chance, I also like that we got a guy who is physically capable of playing B2Bs. That's pretty neat.

Your reputation is well-earned. But regarding Kuz, I agree with your guarded optimism.

[-Jragon-]

For whatever it's worth, I don't read the deadline moves are prioritizing a lower tax bill. Not that they weren't happy to lower it if possible, but I think they wanted Kuzma, didn't think Khris had the juice to make it to June, and tried to open a 36-hour window where they could make more happen.

Off the top of my head, the only clear finance over competition move that I can remember them making (of any significance at least) was not bringing back PJ. Granted that one might have cost us another title.

This makes the move even less defensible.

we traded a guy who may have given us a better chance of winning any one series..... for a guy that gives us a better chance to win four series

its literally that simple.

keeping middleton around..... this team was never going to figure themselves out because night to night they had no idea who they were. roles constantly shifting. there was a domino effect here that literally was toxic to chemistry not the other way around. weve seen it both seasons in the dame era. we needed consistentcy even if the ceiling dropped marginally in any given game we can make up for that drop with consistentcy of just guys knowing their job and doing their job and looking around and seeing the same faces

This is a great post. I do think Dame especially needs consistency (and he exemplifies it by being in condition and ready to go). I think he's a very mental player and has to imagine how to succeed before he gets on the floor by knowing where his spots are and where his teammate will be when/before he gets trapped. That's got to be a tough job to be the main ball handler and also high profile enough that every team's goal is get the ball out of your hand (Giannis Wall)... but, with that consistency you can know how they trap and be ahead of it, give up the ball before it hits and maybe even know you'll get the ball back on an angle cut --- would feel great to have that level of confidence by having a lot of games with the same faces.

[bucksfansince88]

hoping Kuz can have a PJ Washington type impact for us here. we have more athleticism and talent im just skeptical that Doc can put the pieces together and make it work...hoping for the best. what are some realistic buyout targets for us?

[-Jragon-]

The one positive is we won't be wasting roster spots on buyout scrubs. No corpses of Gasol or Dragic. It would be cool if they cut Livingston, but only to pick up a more promising youngster. Also time to fill our 2 way spots with younger, more promising players.

How does this work? Do we actually have to cut someone to add a buyout because Rollins is taking our open roster spot? Or are you hoping we can nab 2 buyouts?

[-Jragon-]

I would say that we'd add buyout guys that we hope can have or fight for a rotation spot as further insurance from Pat ever having to see the floor, not just more young DNP guys.

[Ron Swanson]

**** it. Bring PJ back for the vibes.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

we traded a broken vessel with no league wide value whatsoever with a non expiring contract.....for 3 potentially immediate rotation guys. all 3 have upside in different ways.

we also saved a ton of cash and added a SRP in order to be in a better trading situation immediately and this offseason....

marjon and wright were inconsequential.

theres alot of ways to look at yesterday but the more i think about it the more positive i get