Time to give Black's minutes to Jett

[Skybox]

AB still has enough play making ability and defense to have an Ingles type of impact in his career at the minimum. His 3-ball went from better then expected to unable to shoot 3-ball drills.

I'm not sure what else to say guys. Just hope he snaps out of it because I think he is a better player than this. My biggest issue with AB in terms of scope is when I compare him to Suggs / Paolo / Franz it seems like we let them grow and AB may have outward pressure to contribute heavily to winning and in that way it means following orders or lack thereof.

Josh, not sure if you caught it, but that was eyriq burying Jett, not AB...but I could certainly understand the confusion because the story isn't much different.

They told me to cut some meds out and lay off coffee for the brain scan this afternoon.....

My bad.

That's funny...but I hope you're kidding about the brain scan. If not, good luck.

[eyriq]

Eyriq would NEVER wrote a bad thing about Black

Haha, you got that right!

[drsd]

Who in their right mind would take into account stats in such low volume ?

Me - for one.

Howard fails the eye-test more than the moneyball - stats test. He is a bumb.

[drsd]

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[BlueBalls]

Such a failed draft. Considering the average RealGMer would’ve been 2/2 instead of 0/2 in that draft is so alarming.

Don’t be so sure. Pull up the draft night thread. Most people liked the AB pick. A clear majority. Quite a few preferred Jett to Dick, *after* the pick was made, which means most Magic fans are quite adept at pounding the koolaid.

That draft was professional malpractice and Weltman should be fired for that disaster alone.

[JoshuaPotter]

Josh, not sure if you caught it, but that was eyriq burying Jett, not AB...but I could certainly understand the confusion because the story isn't much different.

They told me to cut some meds out and lay off coffee for the brain scan this afternoon.....

My bad.

That's funny...but I hope you're kidding about the brain scan. If not, good luck.

It's OK to laugh. I have had periods where I am unable to speak. Tongue just stops working. Seeing a neurologist. It's honestly terrifying.

It's OK to laugh because of our ongoing jokes.

[Last Guardian]

Haven't given up on either of them. Way too young. Trade if it is a slam dunk, sure. Otherwise, just live with the growing pains.

That was what they were saying here about Bamba.

There is no effort or IQ issue with either of these players. Lets stop the nonsense panic because the Magic overachieved last season.

[eyriq]

They told me to cut some meds out and lay off coffee for the brain scan this afternoon.....

My bad.

That's funny...but I hope you're kidding about the brain scan. If not, good luck.

It's OK to laugh. I have had periods where I am unable to speak. Tongue just stops working. Seeing a neurologist. It's honestly terrifying.

It's OK to laugh because of our ongoing jokes.

Jesus man, that's scary. Wishing you the best

[IllMagic04]

Black is not a bad player. He's shown flashes but his skillset is not what we need from that position. He's just not a great fit which is why I never wanted to draft him in the first place. That was as a disastrous draft for sure.

[Skybox]

Black is not a bad player. He's shown flashes but his skillset is not what we need from that position. He's just not a great fit which is why I never wanted to draft him in the first place. That was as a disastrous draft for sure.

Agree...I'd prefer to hold onto him than expel him for minimal cap space, but he's more KCP than CP2...at least to date.

-and we didn't need KCP, let alone another one

[JoshuaPotter]

That's funny...but I hope you're kidding about the brain scan. If not, good luck.

It's OK to laugh. I have had periods where I am unable to speak. Tongue just stops working. Seeing a neurologist. It's honestly terrifying.

It's OK to laugh because of our ongoing jokes.

Jesus man, that's scary. Wishing you the best

Not to thread jack guys, but thanks. I seem to have put together a string of good days with today being a bad day. But that's good because the scan was today! lol.

Started in Nov. Don't want to jinx anything because ill get a run of 2-3 good days and then BAM I can't speak. I have had my coffee now though and a snack. Can't wait for my workout.

[fendilim]

I find it quite ironic how we are handling Jett’s minutes.

We drafted a guy KNOWN to be a shooter, yet we are not letting him shoot. The guy can’t even get playing time, how can he get rhythm to shoot?

If the guy can’t defend, you strategize defensively to make him playable.

That’s how great teams do it.

You draft a shooting specialist but the only way for him to get playing time is by playing defense??? That’s like asking Rudy gobert to shoot 3points, except it is the other way around. And to think we are one of the worst shooting team in the league.

He probably won’t turn things around, but Jett actually averages more 3s made than the other guys that plays ahead of him, not to mention, more minutes too. He is even in the upper half on our team in 3pt%.

It is quite amusing to see how this is being handled.

[cedric76]

I find it quite ironic how we are handling Jett’s minutes.

We drafted a guy KNOWN to be a shooter, yet we are not letting him shoot. The guy can’t even get playing time, how can he get rhythm to shoot?

If the guy can’t defend, you strategize defensively to make him playable.

That’s how great teams do it.

You draft a shooting specialist but the only way for him to get playing time is by playing defense??? That’s like asking Rudy gobert to shoot 3points, except it is the other way around. And to think we are one of the worst shooting team in the league.

He probably won’t turn things around, but Jett actually averages more 3s made than the other guys that plays ahead of him, not to mention, more minutes too. He is even in the upper half on our team in 3pt%.

It is quite amusing to see how this is being handled.

1st - His Defense is underrated
2nd - He is only 21, he ll get his opportunity to shine

[The Real Dalic]

Yep, Black on this team never made sense and that was obvious since draft night. Same as when Weltman stupidly picked that Bamba bum while we still had Vuc on the roster. Weltman is not building this team with Franz and Paolo in mind. He's just throwing ill-fitting talent on this roster at random and praying. It's idiotic.

[p0peye]

Yep, Black on this team never made sense and that was obvious since draft night. Same as when Weltman stupidly picked that Bamba bum while we still had Vuc on the roster. Weltman is not building this team with Franz and Paolo in mind. He's just throwing ill-fitting talent on this roster at random and praying. It's idiotic.

Apparently, there is no roster in NBA that Bamba can fit into.

[pepe1991]

Yep, Black on this team never made sense and that was obvious since draft night. Same as when Weltman stupidly picked that Bamba bum while we still had Vuc on the roster. Weltman is not building this team with Franz and Paolo in mind. He's just throwing ill-fitting talent on this roster at random and praying. It's idiotic.

Apparently, there is no roster in NBA that Bamba can fit into.

Some guys on this forum, who are still active, claimed Bamba would :
- average Vuc stats on other team
- last in nba longer than Vuc



Bamba is 26, he can still return to college and find good real job

[ORLMagicGirl15]

AB and Jett both need a vet point guard and shooters to mentor them…Coincidently, this team need a vet point guard and shooters to help the team.

[Knightro]

Black is bad, but he has potential and there's at least a reasonably obvious path to where he becomes a quality NBA player.

Jett is bad, and appears to just be bad bad.

[Knightro]

I hate to rehash the Vucevic/Bamba stuff one more time, but I'll do it anyway since there appears to still be weird revisionist history going on.

The year before the Magic drafted Bamba, Vucevic averaged 16 PTS, 9 REB and had a .533 TS% on a 25-win team. He was also going into the last year of his contract. Everyone wanted and expected 2018-2019 to be his last season in Orlando.

There was literally no indication whatsoever that he was going to become an all-star the very next year. That absolutely wasn't on the radar and frankly, it shouldn't have been.

The thought process behind the Bamba pick was fine. He would be the backup center to begin his rookie season and then would take over when Vucevic was either dumped at the trade deadline or allowed to walk as a free agent after that season.

Where the Bamba pick got off the rails is A. he was actually not very good and B. the Magic didn't immediately cut their losses and trade him either during his rookie year or in the summer of 2019 before his second year when it was clear they were going to move forward with Vooch.

[basketballRob]

Yep, Black on this team never made sense and that was obvious since draft night. Same as when Weltman stupidly picked that Bamba bum while we still had Vuc on the roster. Weltman is not building this team with Franz and Paolo in mind. He's just throwing ill-fitting talent on this roster at random and praying. It's idiotic.

Apparently, there is no roster in NBA that Bamba can fit into.

Some guys on this forum, who are still active, claimed Bamba would :
- average Vuc stats on other team
- last in nba longer than Vuc



Bamba is 26, he can still return to college and find good real job

Vuc is in the league, but for what? Just to collect paychecks? It's funny that every team he's started on is basically the same team. Too good to get good picks and too bad to make the playoffs. I'm sure his record for the most losses in franchise history will never be broken.

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