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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#161 » by everdiso » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:30 pm

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everdiso wrote:Next Year

Poeltl 30 ----- Mogbo 24 --- Chomche 20
Barnes 24 ---- Flagg 19
Ingram 28 ---- Agbaji 25 --- Battle 24
Barrett 25 ---- Dick 22 ----- Walter 21
Quickley 26 -- Shead 23


Brother. Flagg is not coming off the bench.


Looking back the last 10 years, the top 2 picks overwhelmingly start right out of the gate. It's usually not even a debate. If we were to land pick #1 or #2, the question becomes who we trade, because Flagg or Harper are absolutely starting.



Ok fine.

Barnes 24 ---- Poeltl 30 --- Chomche 20
Ingram 28 --- Mogbo 24
Flagg 19 ------ Agbaji 25 --- Battle 24
Barrett 25 ---- Dick 22 ----- Walter 21
Quickley 26 -- Shead 23
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#162 » by Pointgod » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:30 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
everdiso wrote:Next Year

Poeltl 30 ----- Mogbo 24 --- Chomche 20
Barnes 24 ---- Flagg 19
Ingram 28 ---- Agbaji 25 --- Battle 24
Barrett 25 ---- Dick 22 ----- Walter 21
Quickley 26 -- Shead 23


Brother. Flagg is not coming off the bench.


Looking back the last 10 years, the top 2 picks overwhelmingly start right out of the gate. It's usually not even a debate. If we were to land pick #1 or #2, the question becomes who we trade, because Flagg or Harper are absolutely starting.


I could see Harper coming off the bench as a back up before eventually going into the starting lineup. Flagg starts right away and RJ is either traded or goes to the bench.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#163 » by Thaddy » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:35 pm

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Thaddy wrote:We turned Siakam into a respectable shooter. He went from mid range to the corner and then extended. Barnes jumped the gun due to injuries and Darko's orders. I expect it to dial down and for him to focus on the corners and mid range going forward.


Siakam made a visible leap in his third season, and was shooting pretty well on long twos to begin with, even as a rookie. Got his middie going in his second season. Put them both together in his third season. His development arc is QUITE distinct from Scottie's. He was also a 41.% corner 3pt shooter in his third season, and has generally been a 38.3% corner shooter on his career to this point.

He responded well. Scottie has not. I don't consider them strongly comparable in that regard.

For sure, we should expect him to take fewer ATB 3s at this point. Fewer pull-ups, fewer catch-and-shoot 3s above the break. We should be posting him, getting him to cut more, heading out in transition, that sort of thing. His broader efficacy should increase for us as his volume comes down and his creation load drops as well.

Siakam played with much better players that got him very open looks. Barnes needs to continue shooting pull up mid range shots and developing his talent there. The corner is pretty much a mid ranger and if he gets time to set up and get it off he'll hit more from there. You said it yourself he's shooting worse this season from the corner, it's because our injuries.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#164 » by nestea » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:36 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.nba.com/raptors/videos/raptors-practice-brandon-ingram-february-7-2025


"scottie is a really good player and he's going to make the game easier for me"

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Post#165 » by Tripod » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:38 pm

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MiamiSPX wrote:
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Brother. Flagg is not coming off the bench.


Looking back the last 10 years, the top 2 picks overwhelmingly start right out of the gate. It's usually not even a debate. If we were to land pick #1 or #2, the question becomes who we trade, because Flagg or Harper are absolutely starting.


I could see Harper coming off the bench as a back up before eventually going into the starting lineup. Flagg starts right away and RJ is either traded or goes to the bench.

Flagg would get lots of starts anyways because Ingram would be out hurt.

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Post#167 » by Pointgod » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:42 pm

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Looking back the last 10 years, the top 2 picks overwhelmingly start right out of the gate. It's usually not even a debate. If we were to land pick #1 or #2, the question becomes who we trade, because Flagg or Harper are absolutely starting.


I could see Harper coming off the bench as a back up before eventually going into the starting lineup. Flagg starts right away and RJ is either traded or goes to the bench.

Flagg would get lots of starts anyways because Ingram would be out hurt.

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Let’s hope not. Not sure we want to be paying 40 million for that.
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Post#168 » by Wutang_CMB » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:43 pm

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Post#169 » by tsherkin » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:44 pm

Thaddy wrote:Siakam played with much better players that got him very open looks.


My dude. Horsecrap. Of his 5.0 3PA/g this year, 2.3 of them are with a defender more than 6 feet away. 2.5 of them are with a defender 4-6 feet way. He's not suffering from an issue with quality of look, he's just bricking open 3s.

Barnes needs to continue shooting pull up mid range shots and developing his talent there.


Sure. While we lower his overall volume and responsibility, while shifting him more to higher-percentage looks, yes.

You said it yourself he's shooting worse this season from the corner, it's because our injuries.


No, man, it's because he isn't a good shooter, lol.

I like Scottie, I think he'll be a valuable piece on our team, but this is a clearly-evident weakness in his game.
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Post#170 » by right between the eyes » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:45 pm

I still can't believe we have Brandon Ingram on the team without really giving up anyone from our young core. It's kind of surreal tbh. New era!
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#171 » by MiamiSPX » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:46 pm

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Post#172 » by ArthurVandelay » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:47 pm

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Scottie: you smoke?

BI: my man
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Post#173 » by MEDIC » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:56 pm

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Yessss Sir!

Scottie is a big dude. Lanky BI making him look like Ronnie Coleman though!
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Post#174 » by MEDIC » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:03 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.nba.com/raptors/videos/raptors-practice-brandon-ingram-february-7-2025


"scottie is a really good player and he's going to make the game easier for me"


I think the idea of having Scottie as a pass first co-star & Poeltl as a good screener,. roll man & passer makes the situation appealing for a scorer like Ingram. Both good defenders as well.

I think having Ingram may limit Gradey's role a bit, which will help with GD's efficiency.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#175 » by Scase » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:05 pm

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AkelaLoneWolf wrote:We are not tanking next year regardless of BI trade. Lavine was just traded. Goes to show no contract is untradeable. The point is to build up and be in position to offer value when the next all star or superstar is available(Giannis)

Cool, doesn't change anything I said.

No one wants to watch loser ball for the next 5 years. We’re not tanking. Feel free to root for the Jazz if that’s what you’re into

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Post#176 » by mtcan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:06 pm

MEDIC wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.nba.com/raptors/videos/raptors-practice-brandon-ingram-february-7-2025


"scottie is a really good player and he's going to make the game easier for me"


I think the idea of having Scottie as a pass first co-star & Poeltl as a good screener,. roll man & passer makes the situation appealing for a scorer like Ingram. Both good defenders as well.

I think having Ingram may limit Gradey's role a bit, which will help with GD's efficiency.

I think BI misses playing with a big dude like JV all those years in NO.

Jak is obviously the better defender whereas JV has a lot of go-to moves in the post and will get his buckets. Jak has that push shot and that's about it. :lol:
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Post#177 » by tsherkin » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:11 pm

mtcan wrote:I think BI misses playing with a big dude like JV all those years in NO.

Jak is obviously the better defender whereas JV has a lot of go-to moves in the post and will get his buckets. Jak has that push shot and that's about it. :lol:


Is that going to be relevant to Ingram's game, though? We'll be moving the ball through Scottie and RJ enough to spell him, in theory, so it's not like there won't be other things. JV was a nice scorer on mid volume, for sure, but like, he also got in the way of anyone trying to get into the paint (as would any big there who can't fade out for a J a ton).
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Post#178 » by Raptorfan2012 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:21 pm

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Whoa, Ingram already with the team and in Raptors gear? That was fast. Guess no formal press conference since Raptors are on the road.
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Post#179 » by mtcan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:25 pm

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mtcan wrote:I think BI misses playing with a big dude like JV all those years in NO.

Jak is obviously the better defender whereas JV has a lot of go-to moves in the post and will get his buckets. Jak has that push shot and that's about it. :lol:


Is that going to be relevant to Ingram's game, though? We'll be moving the ball through Scottie and RJ enough to spell him, in theory, so it's not like there won't be other things. JV was a nice scorer on mid volume, for sure, but like, he also got in the way of anyone trying to get into the paint (as would any big there who can't fade out for a J a ton).

Most of the shots we see on those highlight packages...difficult contested shots. Having a big guy eliminate a defender frees him up for better looks. That's the benefit of a 7 footer for a shooter. BI has had Steven Adams for years and then JV for the rest of it. Yves Missi probably comes close but he doesn't have the bulk that those other 2 centres had.

Watching BI highlights reminds me of those Ace Bailey highlight videos. Both are long, athletic and can hit shots over almost everyone. They both are known for making difficult shots but if the schemes are in place to make those shots easier...then why not?
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Post#180 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:26 pm

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Scottie: you smoke?

BI: my man


NGL both are unintentionally hilarious.. gonna be fun esp if were winning.

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