SGA has more Win Shares than Luka

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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#101 » by Godymas » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:01 pm

THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?


???

both teams would hang up and say "we are good" if Luka was offered
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#102 » by aj174 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:06 pm

Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.


This is the case of stats don't tell the whole story

Luka just has that killer instinct about him, I really can't quantify it. But we saw it against the clippers years ago when he was like 22 or whatever
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#103 » by zero rings » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:09 pm

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Stan wrote:If you'd rather have Tatum as your franchise player over Luka you're clueless about basketball. Dude didn't even play that well in the Finals and his team still easily won in 5.


Tatum is still a 6’9 defensive wing even when his shot isn’t falling.

When Luka’s shot isn’t falling, he’s a defensive sieve who spends more time arguing with the refs than getting back on D. He’s also extremely ball dominant, so his off nights are far more damaging than Tatum’s.

The Mavs internal assessment of Luka is correct. The problem is they didn’t get the maximun return for him, and they weren’t able to sell the trade to their fans.


The only problem is that Tatum's shot aren't falling every second game. ;) You should check Luka's defensive numbers this year, you might be shocked.

Since Luka's injury on Christmas Day, Mavs have won 8 games and lost 16 games. So their assessment was, we can't win without Luka, we have to trade him for 6 years older injury prone player. :lol: Not exactly easy to sell that premise to anyone, except few Luka's haters here. Fans, who're watching games are not that stupid.


They don’t think Luka is bad. They think he’s overrated and not worth the gigantic extension he was due this summer.

Whether AD is better or not is debatable. I personally wouldn’t have made that trade, but if you take the blinders off it’s not hard to see why the Mavs valued AD more than Luka.

And yes, many fans are that stupid. They get emotionally invested in their favorite players and can’t view them objectively.
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#104 » by Bob8 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:25 pm

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Tatum is still a 6’9 defensive wing even when his shot isn’t falling.

When Luka’s shot isn’t falling, he’s a defensive sieve who spends more time arguing with the refs than getting back on D. He’s also extremely ball dominant, so his off nights are far more damaging than Tatum’s.

The Mavs internal assessment of Luka is correct. The problem is they didn’t get the maximun return for him, and they weren’t able to sell the trade to their fans.


The only problem is that Tatum's shot aren't falling every second game. ;) You should check Luka's defensive numbers this year, you might be shocked.

Since Luka's injury on Christmas Day, Mavs have won 8 games and lost 16 games. So their assessment was, we can't win without Luka, we have to trade him for 6 years older injury prone player. :lol: Not exactly easy to sell that premise to anyone, except few Luka's haters here. Fans, who're watching games are not that stupid.


They don’t think Luka is bad. They think he’s overrated and not worth the gigantic extension he was due this summer.

Whether AD is better or not is debatable. I personally wouldn’t have made that trade, but if you take the blinders off it’s not hard to see why the Mavs valued AD more than Luka.

And yes, many fans are that stupid. They get emotionally invested in their favorite players and can’t view them objectively.


It's extremely hard to see how can you value 6 years older, more injury prone player than a player who was 5x in a row first All Nba team, 34/9/10, 62% TS, 3rd in MVP, who just brought your team in the Finals as clear underdog in the West.

If they were both 25 years old, we could have a debate. But even then you don't trade your franchise player, who was drafted by you, overnight without talking with anyone. It's bad for the business, towards a player, and towards fans. Luka isn't some local Dallas dude, he's international superstar, Lakers just hit jackpot in business department too. Luka was selling 6 most jerseys in Nba, being in Dallas. What do you think will happen in LA?

You should just look at the mirror and ask yourself, how realistically do you value those 2 players. Why do you think everyone in Nba, players, managers, fans, reporters believed it's a hoax? Even Shams thought his phone was hacked. By your logic no one except fans should be surprised.

Nico basically bet everything on +3.300 odds to win championships. Funny enough, their odds were + 2.000 before the trade.
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#105 » by -Spyda- » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:41 pm

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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#106 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:08 pm

Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.

Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series

SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids

These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -

Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%

SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal

Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins

Btw - honestly I think it’s Jokic 1

Giannis 2

Sga luka and Tatum are 3-5 and completely interchangeably good- Tatum gets extra credit for wining a ring and winning more games and gold medals but only the Mavs would trade either of these 3

These are the brightest stars that will be surpassed by only wemby in the next 5 year
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#107 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:17 pm

THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?

Maybe because OKC and Boston values SGA and Tatum more than Luka.
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#108 » by Bob8 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:21 pm

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Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.

Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series

SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids

These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -

Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%

SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal

Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins


Did you watch that series? OKC had only one plan, defending Luka with everything they had. Leaving roll players wide open all the time. Mavs defended SGA straight, but take care of others. I would say that Mavs' strategy won. But it's true you can't defend Luka like Mavs defended SGA, because he would have averaged 40.
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#109 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:25 pm

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THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?


???

both teams would hang up and say "we are good" if Luka was offered

Why would you trade SGA or Tatum for Luka when the Mavs call you? Boston and okc have a Luka equivalent player without the conditioning, injury, attitude or drinking concerns…. Yall can LOVE Luka and not be so biased that you can’t objectively see that all 3 are good but 2 don’t have the same baggage as the other guy -
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#110 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:31 pm

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Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.

Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series

SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids

These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -

Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%

SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal

Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins


Did you watch that series? OKC had only one plan, defending Luka with everything they had. Leaving roll players wide open all the time. Mavs defended SGA straight, but take care of others. I would say that Mavs' strategy won. But it's true you can't defend Luka like Mavs defended SGA, because he would have averaged 40.


Why is that true ? That’s crazy - the Mavs through everything they could at SGA and he went off - stop lying to yourself - we all watched it - sga was simply better than Luka that series - everyone said Luka was hurt lol

SGA IS AS GOOD or better than Luka -

Yall talk about stats and I bring stats - yall talk about playoff stats and I bring head to head playoff stats - you talk about subjective awards and I bring those - sga has been ahead of Luka in these areas head to head over the past 3 years - that’s not a slight on Luka - it’s a nod to SGA…

Again Bob- No way In Hell I trade Luka for SGA or vice versa - I wouldn’t even trade Luka if I’m the Mavs for Wemby-

If someone ask if I want to trade Luka sga tatum jokic or giannis and I have them under contract with the super max pending I say HELL NO and I keep my guy.

I’m just saying SGA is as good or better than Luka - but we splitting microscopic nano hairs between these guys -
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#111 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:33 pm

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THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?

Maybe because OKC and Boston values SGA and Tatum more than Luka.

As they should - you keep YOUR guy -

You know how we know that? Watch what happens when the Mavs play their next home game - watch what happens when Luka comes back to Dallas- okc and Boston too smart to make a Mavs level mistake and not only mess up the basketball but betray their fan base
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#112 » by Archx » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:49 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series

SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids

These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -

Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%

SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal

Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins


Did you watch that series? OKC had only one plan, defending Luka with everything they had. Leaving roll players wide open all the time. Mavs defended SGA straight, but take care of others. I would say that Mavs' strategy won. But it's true you can't defend Luka like Mavs defended SGA, because he would have averaged 40.


Why is that true ? That’s crazy - the Mavs through everything they could at SGA and he went off - stop lying to yourself - we all watched it - sga was simply better than Luka that series - everyone said Luka was hurt lol

SGA IS AS GOOD or better than Luka -

Yall talk about stats and I bring stats - yall talk about playoff stats and I bring head to head playoff stats - you talk about subjective awards and I bring those - sga has been ahead of Luka in these areas head to head over the past 3 years - that’s not a slight on Luka - it’s a nod to SGA…

Again Bob- No way In Hell I trade Luka for SGA or vice versa - I wouldn’t even trade Luka if I’m the Mavs for Wemby-

If someone ask if I want to trade Luka sga tatum jokic or giannis and I have them under contract with the super max pending I say HELL NO and I keep my guy.

I’m just saying SGA is as good or better than Luka - but we splitting microscopic nano hairs between these guys -


Mate... OKC defended Luka with 5 guys, Mavs had DJJ on SGA. One is not like the other. You remember how people and even you are saying role players bailed out Mavs? Well there is a reason for that.

So before we keep reading "SGA outplayed Luka by a large margin" let me refresh your memory, because there are levels to that.



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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#113 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:56 pm

Archx wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
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Bob8 wrote:
Did you watch that series? OKC had only one plan, defending Luka with everything they had. Leaving roll players wide open all the time. Mavs defended SGA straight, but take care of others. I would say that Mavs' strategy won. But it's true you can't defend Luka like Mavs defended SGA, because he would have averaged 40.


Why is that true ? That’s crazy - the Mavs through everything they could at SGA and he went off - stop lying to yourself - we all watched it - sga was simply better than Luka that series - everyone said Luka was hurt lol

SGA IS AS GOOD or better than Luka -

Yall talk about stats and I bring stats - yall talk about playoff stats and I bring head to head playoff stats - you talk about subjective awards and I bring those - sga has been ahead of Luka in these areas head to head over the past 3 years - that’s not a slight on Luka - it’s a nod to SGA…

Again Bob- No way In Hell I trade Luka for SGA or vice versa - I wouldn’t even trade Luka if I’m the Mavs for Wemby-

If someone ask if I want to trade Luka sga tatum jokic or giannis and I have them under contract with the super max pending I say HELL NO and I keep my guy.

I’m just saying SGA is as good or better than Luka - but we splitting microscopic nano hairs between these guys -


Mate... OKC defended Luka with 5 guys, Mavs had DJJ on SGA. One is not like the other. You remember how people and even you are saying role players bailed out Mavs? Well there is a reason for that.

So before we keep reading "SGA outplayed Luka by a large margin" let me refresh your memory, because there are levels to that.



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Love you ArchX but you said “Luka hurt” last year when SGA was shooting 50% from everywhere scoring 32 - which was more than Luka and Luka was shooting worse and putting up 24…

Luka IS a monster - and I don’t want anyone for one big game over Luka - and absolute Luka is the guy I was taking the last shot for the fate of the world - but SGA is also better IMO and at WORSE these guys are equivalent talents - Btw SGA is getting better and Luka has been static for the last few years - The only thing that makes me mad about the trade is - It’s not fair to debate Luka and SGA anymore cause the lakers change everything - the Mavs built the perfect team for Luka and OKC was doing that for SGA… kinda sucks for all of us that the Mavs owners Messed up the basketball ecosystem-


Btw - Luka out here putting up the most free throws and STILL yelling at the refs cause he needs MORE FTs lol

Clown crap there bro
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#114 » by Archx » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:04 pm

CobraCommander wrote:Btw - Luka out here putting up the most free throws and STILL yelling at the refs cause he needs MORE FTs lol

Clown crap there bro


We can both agree to this. It's annoying yes. But it's the "balkan" nature of it. Jokic does the same people just don't pay enough attention to it.

But regarding the SGA debate. I said many times, i don't care who people view is better, at the end of the day results speak for themselves. But using lame arguments like WS's or not even watching the series and just post RAW stats, it's just dumb to me.

In the past people always brought up advance stats but when we do it to defend Luka, suddenly that gets thrown out the window. And Luka did have better advance stats than SGA plus the W, yet somehow SGA won by a LARGE margin. Does that make sense to you? That's why i posted the video to remind people how stats can be misleading and how Mavs actually won vs OKC.
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#115 » by thamadkant » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:17 pm

Luka is much more entertaining to watch, just watching a tubby tall european guy perform magic in the offensive end is pretty cool, hence his appeal. He's an elite offensive player any way you put it.

But SGA, in his stride, is better overall. Underrated by the mainstream media because he doesnt sell as many jerseys nor doesnt get as much global attention.
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#116 » by xAIRNESSx » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:18 pm

SGA will also have more MVPs than Luka in a couple of months
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#117 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:39 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Btw - Luka out here putting up the most free throws and STILL yelling at the refs cause he needs MORE FTs lol

Clown crap there bro


We can both agree to this. It's annoying yes. But it's the "balkan" nature of it. Jokic does the same people just don't pay enough attention to it.

But regarding the SGA debate. I said many times, i don't care who people view is better, at the end of the day results speak for themselves. But using lame arguments like WS's or not even watching the series and just post RAW stats, it's just dumb to me.

In the past people always brought up advance stats but when we do it to defend Luka, suddenly that gets thrown out the window. And Luka did have better advance stats than SGA plus the W, yet somehow SGA won by a LARGE margin. Does that make sense to you? That's why i posted the video to remind people how stats can be misleading and how Mavs actually won vs OKC.

But we watched that series and SGA was the best player in that series - stop it - dude was on fire - you can say what you want - I remember everyone saying Luka hurt lol -

Then all of a sudden he was miraculously healed lol

Again I don’t care either way- I love all these guys - and if you OKC you wouldn’t trade for Luka -

And the Mavs would have taken SGA over Luka -

And I agree with OKC and unironically don’t agree that the Mavs should trade Luka for SGA-

These guys were perfect where they were/are and the freaking Mavs messed it up for all of us.


What’s crazy is the Mavs must not get how many Lakers fans they created in Dallas - that’s long term bad


Honestly as much as I love SGA and Tatum and think they better for winning and maybe even better overall- it’s more fun to watch Luka -

Sga and Tatum just do everything right - Luka is fun cause you don’t know wtf he gonna try on offense and next thing you know he crying like a baby over a foul… 3 minutes later he cursing out the dpoy after dancing on him for a back breaking 3….


SGAs post game interviews with the towels the most entertaining thing he does beyond play great ball
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#118 » by Yoshun » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:00 pm

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Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.

Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series

SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids

These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -

Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%

SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal

Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins

Btw - honestly I think it’s Jokic 1

Giannis 2

Sga luka and Tatum are 3-5 and completely interchangeably good- Tatum gets extra credit for wining a ring and winning more games and gold medals but only the Mavs would trade either of these 3

These are the brightest stars that will be surpassed by only wemby in the next 5 year


I'm a huge SGA fan and I'm fine with people saying SGA outplayed Luka in that series. My issue is more with nonsense like "Luka is hard to build around" and "Luka is worse than a prime James Harden." That's clearly false.

Dallas successfully, and fairly easily, built a great team around him and he took them to the finals as the clear number one option and primary ball handler. He also went through SGA and a very good OKC team to to do it.

It seems like a poor argument to try to justify what was clearly a bad trade.
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#119 » by Apz » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:21 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
Archx wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Btw - Luka out here putting up the most free throws and STILL yelling at the refs cause he needs MORE FTs lol

Clown crap there bro


We can both agree to this. It's annoying yes. But it's the "balkan" nature of it. Jokic does the same people just don't pay enough attention to it.

But regarding the SGA debate. I said many times, i don't care who people view is better, at the end of the day results speak for themselves. But using lame arguments like WS's or not even watching the series and just post RAW stats, it's just dumb to me.

In the past people always brought up advance stats but when we do it to defend Luka, suddenly that gets thrown out the window. And Luka did have better advance stats than SGA plus the W, yet somehow SGA won by a LARGE margin. Does that make sense to you? That's why i posted the video to remind people how stats can be misleading and how Mavs actually won vs OKC.

But we watched that series and SGA was the best player in that series - stop it - dude was on fire - you can say what you want - I remember everyone saying Luka hurt lol -

Then all of a sudden he was miraculously healed lol

Again I don’t care either way- I love all these guys - and if you OKC you wouldn’t trade for Luka -

And the Mavs would have taken SGA over Luka -

And I agree with OKC and unironically don’t agree that the Mavs should trade Luka for SGA-

These guys were perfect where they were/are and the freaking Mavs messed it up for all of us.


What’s crazy is the Mavs must not get how many Lakers fans they created in Dallas - that’s long term bad


Honestly as much as I love SGA and Tatum and think they better for winning and maybe even better overall- it’s more fun to watch Luka -

Sga and Tatum just do everything right - Luka is fun cause you don’t know wtf he gonna try on offense and next thing you know he crying like a baby over a foul… 3 minutes later he cursing out the dpoy after dancing on him for a back breaking 3….


SGAs post game interviews with the towels the most entertaining thing he does beyond play great ball


OKC didnt win that series, mavs did. Now, SGA might have had better personal stats n the series, but that was because Mavs guarded SGA 1 on 1 and took away everyone else, while OKC double/tripled Luka basicly from halfcourt line all series, so Lukas stats got lower but guess what? Wide open roleplayers hits more 3s then u think. So while it was a loss in personal stats for Luka, he made the best reads for Mavs to win. Mavs basicly played 4 on 3, or even 4 on 2, every time down the court. Why? Because Luka is a bigger threat then SGA in a halfcourt setting. So what that SGA got to play 1 on 1 and score in the midrange, if it means Mavs get a wide open 3 in the other end
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Re: SGA has more Win Shares than Luka 

Post#120 » by CobraCommander » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:34 pm

Yoshun wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.

Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series

SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids

These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -

Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%

SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal

Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins

Btw - honestly I think it’s Jokic 1

Giannis 2

Sga luka and Tatum are 3-5 and completely interchangeably good- Tatum gets extra credit for wining a ring and winning more games and gold medals but only the Mavs would trade either of these 3

These are the brightest stars that will be surpassed by only wemby in the next 5 year


I'm a huge SGA fan and I'm fine with people saying SGA outplayed Luka in that series. My issue is more with nonsense like "Luka is hard to build around" and "Luka is worse than a prime James Harden." That's clearly false.

Dallas successfully, and fairly easily, built a great team around him and he took them to the finals as the clear number one option and primary ball handler. He also went through SGA and a very good OKC team to to do it.

It seems like a poor argument to try to justify what was clearly a bad trade.

You forget that prime harden ran into the warriors - I’m not saying Luka not special but prime harden was an mvp and his numbers in reg season better but he ran into Warriors -

If Luka never wins a ring he will be harden - for now that doesn’t seem likely-

But the harden slander is weird lol

Btw Luka gonna win 3-4 rings in La -

Hope sga does the same -

But they better get going because the spurs coming

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