THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?
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both teams would hang up and say "we are good" if Luka was offered
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THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?
Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.
Bob8 wrote:zero rings wrote:Stan wrote:If you'd rather have Tatum as your franchise player over Luka you're clueless about basketball. Dude didn't even play that well in the Finals and his team still easily won in 5.
Tatum is still a 6’9 defensive wing even when his shot isn’t falling.
When Luka’s shot isn’t falling, he’s a defensive sieve who spends more time arguing with the refs than getting back on D. He’s also extremely ball dominant, so his off nights are far more damaging than Tatum’s.
The Mavs internal assessment of Luka is correct. The problem is they didn’t get the maximun return for him, and they weren’t able to sell the trade to their fans.
The only problem is that Tatum's shot aren't falling every second game.You should check Luka's defensive numbers this year, you might be shocked.
Since Luka's injury on Christmas Day, Mavs have won 8 games and lost 16 games. So their assessment was, we can't win without Luka, we have to trade him for 6 years older injury prone player.Not exactly easy to sell that premise to anyone, except few Luka's haters here. Fans, who're watching games are not that stupid.
zero rings wrote:Bob8 wrote:zero rings wrote:
Tatum is still a 6’9 defensive wing even when his shot isn’t falling.
When Luka’s shot isn’t falling, he’s a defensive sieve who spends more time arguing with the refs than getting back on D. He’s also extremely ball dominant, so his off nights are far more damaging than Tatum’s.
The Mavs internal assessment of Luka is correct. The problem is they didn’t get the maximun return for him, and they weren’t able to sell the trade to their fans.
The only problem is that Tatum's shot aren't falling every second game.You should check Luka's defensive numbers this year, you might be shocked.
Since Luka's injury on Christmas Day, Mavs have won 8 games and lost 16 games. So their assessment was, we can't win without Luka, we have to trade him for 6 years older injury prone player.Not exactly easy to sell that premise to anyone, except few Luka's haters here. Fans, who're watching games are not that stupid.
They don’t think Luka is bad. They think he’s overrated and not worth the gigantic extension he was due this summer.
Whether AD is better or not is debatable. I personally wouldn’t have made that trade, but if you take the blinders off it’s not hard to see why the Mavs valued AD more than Luka.
And yes, many fans are that stupid. They get emotionally invested in their favorite players and can’t view them objectively.
Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.
THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?

CobraCommander wrote:Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.
Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series
SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids
These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -
Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%
SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal
Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins
Godymas wrote:THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?
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both teams would hang up and say "we are good" if Luka was offered
Bob8 wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.
Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series
SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids
These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -
Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%
SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal
Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins
Did you watch that series? OKC had only one plan, defending Luka with everything they had. Leaving roll players wide open all the time. Mavs defended SGA straight, but take care of others. I would say that Mavs' strategy won. But it's true you can't defend Luka like Mavs defended SGA, because he would have averaged 40.
3toheadmelo wrote:THE J0KER wrote:OK, if they think SGA or Tatum are more valuable players than Doncic, why do they not trade Luka for SGA or Tatum instead of for 31y old veteran?
Maybe because OKC and Boston values SGA and Tatum more than Luka.
CobraCommander wrote:Spoiler:

Archx wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Spoiler:
Mate... OKC defended Luka with 5 guys, Mavs had DJJ on SGA. One is not like the other. You remember how people and even you are saying role players bailed out Mavs? Well there is a reason for that.
So before we keep reading "SGA outplayed Luka by a large margin" let me refresh your memory, because there are levels to that.
...and
CobraCommander wrote:Btw - Luka out here putting up the most free throws and STILL yelling at the refs cause he needs MORE FTs lol
Clown crap there bro
Archx wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Btw - Luka out here putting up the most free throws and STILL yelling at the refs cause he needs MORE FTs lol
Clown crap there bro
We can both agree to this. It's annoying yes. But it's the "balkan" nature of it. Jokic does the same people just don't pay enough attention to it.
But regarding the SGA debate. I said many times, i don't care who people view is better, at the end of the day results speak for themselves. But using lame arguments like WS's or not even watching the series and just post RAW stats, it's just dumb to me.
In the past people always brought up advance stats but when we do it to defend Luka, suddenly that gets thrown out the window. And Luka did have better advance stats than SGA plus the W, yet somehow SGA won by a LARGE margin. Does that make sense to you? That's why i posted the video to remind people how stats can be misleading and how Mavs actually won vs OKC.
CobraCommander wrote:Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.
Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series
SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids
These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -
Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%
SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal
Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins
Btw - honestly I think it’s Jokic 1
Giannis 2
Sga luka and Tatum are 3-5 and completely interchangeably good- Tatum gets extra credit for wining a ring and winning more games and gold medals but only the Mavs would trade either of these 3
These are the brightest stars that will be surpassed by only wemby in the next 5 year
CobraCommander wrote:Archx wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Btw - Luka out here putting up the most free throws and STILL yelling at the refs cause he needs MORE FTs lol
Clown crap there bro
We can both agree to this. It's annoying yes. But it's the "balkan" nature of it. Jokic does the same people just don't pay enough attention to it.
But regarding the SGA debate. I said many times, i don't care who people view is better, at the end of the day results speak for themselves. But using lame arguments like WS's or not even watching the series and just post RAW stats, it's just dumb to me.
In the past people always brought up advance stats but when we do it to defend Luka, suddenly that gets thrown out the window. And Luka did have better advance stats than SGA plus the W, yet somehow SGA won by a LARGE margin. Does that make sense to you? That's why i posted the video to remind people how stats can be misleading and how Mavs actually won vs OKC.
But we watched that series and SGA was the best player in that series - stop it - dude was on fire - you can say what you want - I remember everyone saying Luka hurt lol -
Then all of a sudden he was miraculously healed lol
Again I don’t care either way- I love all these guys - and if you OKC you wouldn’t trade for Luka -
And the Mavs would have taken SGA over Luka -
And I agree with OKC and unironically don’t agree that the Mavs should trade Luka for SGA-
These guys were perfect where they were/are and the freaking Mavs messed it up for all of us.
What’s crazy is the Mavs must not get how many Lakers fans they created in Dallas - that’s long term bad
Honestly as much as I love SGA and Tatum and think they better for winning and maybe even better overall- it’s more fun to watch Luka -
Sga and Tatum just do everything right - Luka is fun cause you don’t know wtf he gonna try on offense and next thing you know he crying like a baby over a foul… 3 minutes later he cursing out the dpoy after dancing on him for a back breaking 3….
SGAs post game interviews with the towels the most entertaining thing he does beyond play great ball
Yoshun wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Yoshun wrote:Dallas was just in the NBA finals last year. They beat OKC to get there. Luka was clearly their best player.
Use the same energy people had when they said Luka was better than Kawhi when Kawhi won the series but Luka has better stats in the series
SGA clearly outplayed Luka by a wide margin and everyone said Luka hurt but got healthy in the next series- sga is better than Luka period - cause he gives you nearly the points better defense - is in shape and doesn’t complain to refs - I honestly think Luka and SGA are as close as Jokic and Giannis were a few years ago before Jokic started taking steroids
These are the stats from last year for you liars that said Luka out played SGa in their series -
Luka Dončić’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.7
• Points per Game: 24.7
• Rebounds per Game: 10.5
• Assists per Game: 8.7
• Field Goal Percentage: 44.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 39.1%
• Free Throw Percentage: 73.7%
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Performance:
• Games Played: 6
• Minutes per Game: 41.3
• Points per Game: 32.2
• Rebounds per Game: 8.0
• Assists per Game: 7.3
• Field Goal Percentage: 50.7%
• Three-Point Percentage: 55%
• Free Throw Percentage: 83.3%
SGA got let down by his supporting cast of guys that were too young and kyrie and the lob threat bailed luka out guys- Stop lying to yourself - SGA is better than Luka and at worse they equally unreal
Tatum just wins so much that the OP is right - you can’t say sga or Luka better than a guy that just consistently stfu and wins
Btw - honestly I think it’s Jokic 1
Giannis 2
Sga luka and Tatum are 3-5 and completely interchangeably good- Tatum gets extra credit for wining a ring and winning more games and gold medals but only the Mavs would trade either of these 3
These are the brightest stars that will be surpassed by only wemby in the next 5 year
I'm a huge SGA fan and I'm fine with people saying SGA outplayed Luka in that series. My issue is more with nonsense like "Luka is hard to build around" and "Luka is worse than a prime James Harden." That's clearly false.
Dallas successfully, and fairly easily, built a great team around him and he took them to the finals as the clear number one option and primary ball handler. He also went through SGA and a very good OKC team to to do it.
It seems like a poor argument to try to justify what was clearly a bad trade.