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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#181 » by tsherkin » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:29 pm

mtcan wrote:Most of the shots we see on those highlight packages...difficult contested shots. Having a big guy eliminate a defender frees him up for better looks. That's the benefit of a 7 footer for a shooter. BI has had Steven Adams for years and then JV for the rest of it. Yves Missi probably comes close but he doesn't have the bulk that those other 2 centres had.


BUt I mean, there are a pile of ways to occupy those defenders which requires nothing of size from the offensive guy.

We can scheme to open up space for him without the need of a big guy who can score inside.
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Post#182 » by Thaddy » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:29 pm

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Thaddy wrote:Siakam played with much better players that got him very open looks.


My dude. Horsecrap. Of his 5.0 3PA/g this year, 2.3 of them are with a defender more than 6 feet away. 2.5 of them are with a defender 4-6 feet way. He's not suffering from an issue with quality of look, he's just bricking open 3s.

Barnes needs to continue shooting pull up mid range shots and developing his talent there.


Sure. While we lower his overall volume and responsibility, while shifting him more to higher-percentage looks, yes.

You said it yourself he's shooting worse this season from the corner, it's because our injuries.


No, man, it's because he isn't a good shooter, lol.

I like Scottie, I think he'll be a valuable piece on our team, but this is a clearly-evident weakness in his game.

Siakam plays with Haliburton which affects the shot quality he gets. Before he got to this season he had periods of missing twenty straight threes at a time.

If we had a player like Hali Barnes would get better looks. You don't need stats to spell that out for you.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#183 » by Clutch0z24 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:30 pm

Id let him sit out for most of the year and keep him close in practice and get his body back into tip top shape....Go back and look at him near the end of his laker & beginning of Pelicans body wise....He was much more slim and 10x more faster.....Its not that hes fat because he always was mega thin....It just looks like he gained 15-20 pounds of pure fat rather than putting on some muscle...

Hope he can get a little more muscle and regain the speed he once had.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#184 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:31 pm

get this man healthy alex

The only players averaging 25 points, five assists, five rebounds and shooting at least 37 per cent from three over the past six years are Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and Ingram
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Post#185 » by tsherkin » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:32 pm

Thaddy wrote:Siakam plays with Haliburton which affects the shot quality he gets. Before he got to this season he had periods of missing twenty straight threes at a time.

If we had a player like Hali Barnes would get better looks. You don't need stats to spell that out for you.


Haliburton would help, sure, but if you're bricking open catch-and-shoot threes with a defender no where near you, a player like Hali isn't going to help.

Like I said, dude's taking MOST of his shots with a defender no where near him. There's only so much more you can do to help the guy. Yeah, the stats basically say, he's getting primarily WIDE open looks and he's bricking them. You can't really improve the shot quality much more over top of what he's getting from 3.

Now, if you want to talk about INSIDE the arc, sure. Absolutely. Scottie needs more chances to operate without the ball and get set up for better looks inside and all that. It'll be a HUGE help to let him shoot less overall, but more of those types of looks.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#186 » by mtcan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:33 pm

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mtcan wrote:Most of the shots we see on those highlight packages...difficult contested shots. Having a big guy eliminate a defender frees him up for better looks. That's the benefit of a 7 footer for a shooter. BI has had Steven Adams for years and then JV for the rest of it. Yves Missi probably comes close but he doesn't have the bulk that those other 2 centres had.


BUt I mean, there are a pile of ways to occupy those defenders which requires nothing of size from the offensive guy.

We can scheme to open up space for him without the need of a big guy who can score inside.

We certainly can find other ways of freeing him up but I can understand why BI would go out of his way to shout out Jak. Game respects game. BI's probably been on the receiving end of a Poeltl screen from when they played each other more back when Jak was a Spur, and BI himself has been the beneficiary of a screen assist or two from his centers over the years.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#187 » by tsherkin » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:33 pm

mtcan wrote:We certainly can find other ways of freeing him up but I can understand why BI would go out of his way to shout out Jak. Game respects game. BI's probably been on the receiving end of a Poeltl screen from when they played each other more back when Jak was a Spur, and BI himself has been the beneficiary of a screen assist or two from his centers over the years.


I mean, someone who can set a good screen has tons of value, that's for certain.
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Post#188 » by Agimat » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:43 pm

right between the eyes wrote:I still can't believe we have Brandon Ingram on the team without really giving up anyone from our young core. It's kind of surreal tbh. New era!

and the fact that they held onto their Top 5 pick makes me believe that Masai isn’t sidetracked by this trade and sees the bigger picture.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#189 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:45 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:get this man healthy alex

The only players averaging 25 points, five assists, five rebounds and shooting at least 37 per cent from three over the past six years are Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and Ingram

Ingram has never averaged 25ppg in one season let alone over the last 6 years lol

He has averaged 23/5/5 last 5 years
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Post#190 » by Tripod » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:51 pm

BI mentioned us going down to NO and beating them by like 40 and were without a full lineup.

I looked up the game and we won by 27 but obviously that game stuck out to him. And in that game we had lots of youth play well which maybe made a lasting impression.

RJ 22-11-8
Ochai 24-6-2
Battle 24-1-3
Walter 14-11-5
Barnes 17-12-7

So yeah, he might have looked at that game and saw lots of youth ball out plus IQ and Gradey didn't play. So he might look at the Raps as a young up and coming team with lots of skill that he can win with going forward.
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Post#192 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:55 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:The writing is on the wall, I'll be shocked if we don't have the 5th or 6th worst record. Which considering the teams below us, is really always been the realistic place we'd be.


Keep in mind that of the 31 remaining games, 24 of them are against teams which are .500 or worse. 9 of them are against teams with less than 20 wins. We have a pretty good chance against most of the teams we have left, which concerns me.

We have 16 wins ourselves. If we go 12-19 and end with 28 wins, will we be bottom 6?


Yes. Hawks only need 6 to get to 29, Bulls need 7. Bulls aren't going 6-24, they still have a passable enough team.

I think we might be locked into 6th worst, but 5th worst is possible, I guess the likeliest reason would be Zion being allowed to drag his team to some wins to raise his trade value if they wanna move him this summer.

I think we'd have to go like 16-17 before we're even in sight of the 7th worst team. Unless Trae or Maxey get hurt. Then one of them (assuming Embiid is out) could reel off 10 losses in a row and maybe slide down.
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Post#193 » by tsherkin » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:59 pm

Ell Curry wrote:I think we might be locked into 6th worst, but 5th worst is possible, I guess the likeliest reason would be Zion being allowed to drag his team to some wins to raise his trade value if they wanna move him this summer.


All right Well, that's not amazing, but I guess 9% is better than less than that.
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Post#194 » by mtcan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:03 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:The writing is on the wall, I'll be shocked if we don't have the 5th or 6th worst record. Which considering the teams below us, is really always been the realistic place we'd be.


Keep in mind that of the 31 remaining games, 24 of them are against teams which are .500 or worse. 9 of them are against teams with less than 20 wins. We have a pretty good chance against most of the teams we have left, which concerns me.

We have 16 wins ourselves. If we go 12-19 and end with 28 wins, will we be bottom 6?


Yes. Hawks only need 6 to get to 29, Bulls need 7. Bulls aren't going 6-24, they still have a passable enough team.

I think we might be locked into 6th worst, but 5th worst is possible, I guess the likeliest reason would be Zion being allowed to drag his team to some wins to raise his trade value if they wanna move him this summer.

I think we'd have to go like 16-17 before we're even in sight of the 7th worst team. Unless Trae or Maxey get hurt. Then one of them (assuming Embiid is out) could reel off 10 losses in a row and maybe slide down.

I really do want to see BI play in a game with the entire starting 5 at least a couple of times and if that is a win or so against the tank...so be it.

Sounds like we really will really want to see what the young guys can do...so a hard pivot to the tank to preserve draft position will be needed.

Let's really see what Chomche can do given the green light to do what he does. :wink:
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Post#195 » by Tripod » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:09 pm

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tsherkin wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:The writing is on the wall, I'll be shocked if we don't have the 5th or 6th worst record. Which considering the teams below us, is really always been the realistic place we'd be.


Keep in mind that of the 31 remaining games, 24 of them are against teams which are .500 or worse. 9 of them are against teams with less than 20 wins. We have a pretty good chance against most of the teams we have left, which concerns me.

We have 16 wins ourselves. If we go 12-19 and end with 28 wins, will we be bottom 6?


Yes. Hawks only need 6 to get to 29, Bulls need 7. Bulls aren't going 6-24, they still have a passable enough team.

I think we might be locked into 6th worst, but 5th worst is possible, I guess the likeliest reason would be Zion being allowed to drag his team to some wins to raise his trade value if they wanna move him this summer.

I think we'd have to go like 16-17 before we're even in sight of the 7th worst team. Unless Trae or Maxey get hurt. Then one of them (assuming Embiid is out) could reel off 10 losses in a row and maybe slide down.

Yeah I have been looking at that 30 win mark as the one to not only avoid, but watch others push to get to.

76ers only having their pick top 6 protected helps us. Hopefully they reel off a few wins in a row and they continue to push for wins...especially because we play them 3 times.

Philly has the 3rd easiest schedule so hopefully they are viewing it as they can go on a nice run
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Post#199 » by mtcan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:16 pm

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tsherkin wrote:
Keep in mind that of the 31 remaining games, 24 of them are against teams which are .500 or worse. 9 of them are against teams with less than 20 wins. We have a pretty good chance against most of the teams we have left, which concerns me.

We have 16 wins ourselves. If we go 12-19 and end with 28 wins, will we be bottom 6?


Yes. Hawks only need 6 to get to 29, Bulls need 7. Bulls aren't going 6-24, they still have a passable enough team.

I think we might be locked into 6th worst, but 5th worst is possible, I guess the likeliest reason would be Zion being allowed to drag his team to some wins to raise his trade value if they wanna move him this summer.

I think we'd have to go like 16-17 before we're even in sight of the 7th worst team. Unless Trae or Maxey get hurt. Then one of them (assuming Embiid is out) could reel off 10 losses in a row and maybe slide down.

Yeah I have been looking at that 30 win mark as the one to not only avoid, but watch others push to get to.

76ers only having their pick top 6 protected helps us. Hopefully they reel off a few wins in a row and they continue to push for wins...especially because we play them 3 times.

Philly has the 3rd easiest schedule so hopefully they are viewing it as they can go on a nice run

I think against Philly...it'll be a tank-off. I have a feeling that Philly is leaning closer to see where the ping pong balls fall than they are to trying to make the play-in.
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