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[MartinToVaught]

I don't think the new CBA is the problem. Despite my initial concerns, the Clippers have actually adjusted to it quickly and manuevered out of the aprons. If the old CBA was still in place, we would have given PG the contract he wanted and been even more screwed than we are now, so if anything, the new rules have saved us from ourselves.

[MartinToVaught]

Unless Giannis wants out or SGA wants to leave OKC, both extremely doubtful, there's nobody coming to save us in 2026 or beyond. And if Giannis or SGA want out they'll be hand delivered to the front door step of the Lakers. I'll sit back and take it all in, but "the plan" is out the window, the league has flipped upside down, and it appears that Ballmer, L. Frank, and Lue have no clue what to do right now.

All the more reason why the front office and coaching staff need to be revamped. Like it or not, the quick fixes are over. If we want a cornerstone player we can actually win with, we're going to have to find a way to draft and develop him. I don't believe Frank, Lue & co. are capable of doing that.

As I've said before, the smartest possible use of Ballmer's money would be to hand Presti a blank check and tell him to name his price. Then go get Hurley. He's a douche, but he has a system and coaches guys up. That would make so much more of a difference than any mediocre "star" Frank would overpay for out of desperation in 2026.

[Clemenza]

I said at the beginning of the year that the org strategy was apparently to tread water until the contracts expire and the draft picks trickle back, and try to win a few games and enjoy the Ballmerdome until then. This was the plan and remains the plan. They aren't going to trade any FRPs or take on any more long-term obligations. But neither are they gonna say f**k it and throw the G-Leaguers out there willy-nilly. This will be run as a serious team and will try to preserve what is left of a winning culture that has the longest streak of winning seasons in the league.

It's not much but it's all we got. Once you become an IDGAF every man for himself joke, it's hard to pull out of the tailspin.

I know the plan to tread water and stay competitive until 2026 and I don't want them to trade any picks, but they've strayed far away from this plan. L Frank also said we're going to get younger and more athletic which was also part of "the plan". Also part of the plan was Lue saying in a press conference that he wasn't going to wear Harden out. Harden is gasping for air right now. Lue was supposed to unlock Mo Bamba. He's out of the league now. Harden's backup in KPJ is gone. We need shooting badly, but were going to bring in a man that refuses to shoot in Ben Simmons?

Unless Giannis wants out or SGA wants to leave OKC, both extremely doubtful, there's nobody coming to save us in 2026 or beyond. And if Giannis or SGA want out they'll be hand delivered to the front door step of the Lakers. I'll sit back and take it all in, but "the plan" is out the window, the league has flipped upside down, and it appears that Ballmer, L. Frank, and Lue have no clue what to do right now.

Well, remember that Ballmer got bushwhacked by his fellow owners with the new CBA. Plan A was to build the Ballmerdome and depend on Ballmer's billions, the Southern California weather, and LA as the entertainment capital of the universe to create an endless supply of top FAs hankering to sign here.

This is Plan F, and they're making it up as they go along. I still think winning without digging the hole any deeper is the plan, NOT throwing G-Leaguers against the wall to see what sticks. Harden in particular is giving his best effort and attitude, and it would be a betrayal not to play to win.

I get that but its 2025 not 2022-23. Its not that year where we can sh*t on the G Leaguers when we had PG, Kawhi, Russ, Zu, Harden, Plumlee, Norm, RoCo, Morris Sr, Eric Gordan, Reggie Jackson, Kennard, etc. Now its Harden, Kawhi, Norm, Zu, DJJ, Batum, Coffey, and whatever band-aid players we can suit up right now. Like you said its Plan F. We're way past the G Leaguer's stigma stage all the while fighting the cap aprons, no picks, old legs, praying for a buyout player, and the other team in LA dropping a nuke on us and the entire league. Things have changed. Its not that league that you think it is anymore.

[Clemenza]

Unless Giannis wants out or SGA wants to leave OKC, both extremely doubtful, there's nobody coming to save us in 2026 or beyond. And if Giannis or SGA want out they'll be hand delivered to the front door step of the Lakers. I'll sit back and take it all in, but "the plan" is out the window, the league has flipped upside down, and it appears that Ballmer, L. Frank, and Lue have no clue what to do right now.

All the more reason why the front office and coaching staff need to be revamped. Like it or not, the quick fixes are over. If we want a cornerstone player we can actually win with, we're going to have to find a way to draft and develop him. I don't believe Frank, Lue & co. are capable of doing that.

As I've said before, the smartest possible use of Ballmer's money would be to hand Presti a blank check and tell him to name his price. Then go get Hurley. He's a douche, but he has a system and coaches guys up. That would make so much more of a difference than any mediocre "star" Frank would overpay for out of desperation in 2026.

Of course I want us to develop a star, but I'm even more forgiving and saying at least develop a player that can contribute and play next to our core, like a Mann or Coffey with a higher upside.. Something like that at least. The Nets, Jazz, Pels, and Hornets have benefited and utilized our G League team while we reap nothing from it at all.

[Clemenza]

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[KL2]

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[esqtvd]

I know the plan to tread water and stay competitive until 2026 and I don't want them to trade any picks, but they've strayed far away from this plan. L Frank also said we're going to get younger and more athletic which was also part of "the plan". Also part of the plan was Lue saying in a press conference that he wasn't going to wear Harden out. Harden is gasping for air right now. Lue was supposed to unlock Mo Bamba. He's out of the league now. Harden's backup in KPJ is gone. We need shooting badly, but were going to bring in a man that refuses to shoot in Ben Simmons?

Unless Giannis wants out or SGA wants to leave OKC, both extremely doubtful, there's nobody coming to save us in 2026 or beyond. And if Giannis or SGA want out they'll be hand delivered to the front door step of the Lakers. I'll sit back and take it all in, but "the plan" is out the window, the league has flipped upside down, and it appears that Ballmer, L. Frank, and Lue have no clue what to do right now.

Well, remember that Ballmer got bushwhacked by his fellow owners with the new CBA. Plan A was to build the Ballmerdome and depend on Ballmer's billions, the Southern California weather, and LA as the entertainment capital of the universe to create an endless supply of top FAs hankering to sign here.

This is Plan F, and they're making it up as they go along. I still think winning without digging the hole any deeper is the plan, NOT throwing G-Leaguers against the wall to see what sticks. Harden in particular is giving his best effort and attitude, and it would be a betrayal not to play to win.

I get that but its 2025 not 2022-23. Its not that year where we can sh*t on the G Leaguers when we had PG, Kawhi, Russ, Zu, Harden, Plumlee, Norm, RoCo, Morris Sr, Eric Gordan, Reggie Jackson, Kennard, etc. Now its Harden, Kawhi, Norm, Zu, DJJ, Batum, Coffey, and whatever band-aid players we can suit up right now. Like you said its Plan F. We're way past the G Leaguer's stigma stage all the while fighting the cap aprons, no picks, old legs, praying for a buyout player, and the other team in LA dropping a nuke on us and the entire league. Things have changed. Its not that league that you think it is anymore.

Any two-way player worth an NBA contract already has one or will very soon. There's no stigma. Amir Coffey worked his way up from undrafted to the G-League to an actual contract. That makes him a hero in my eyes.

But name the last 5 G-League MVPs. Go ahead. If you're any good, you don't hang around long enough in G-League to win an MVP.

[Clemenza]

Well, remember that Ballmer got bushwhacked by his fellow owners with the new CBA. Plan A was to build the Ballmerdome and depend on Ballmer's billions, the Southern California weather, and LA as the entertainment capital of the universe to create an endless supply of top FAs hankering to sign here.

This is Plan F, and they're making it up as they go along. I still think winning without digging the hole any deeper is the plan, NOT throwing G-Leaguers against the wall to see what sticks. Harden in particular is giving his best effort and attitude, and it would be a betrayal not to play to win.

I get that but its 2025 not 2022-23. Its not that year where we can sh*t on the G Leaguers when we had PG, Kawhi, Russ, Zu, Harden, Plumlee, Norm, RoCo, Morris Sr, Eric Gordan, Reggie Jackson, Kennard, etc. Now its Harden, Kawhi, Norm, Zu, DJJ, Batum, Coffey, and whatever band-aid players we can suit up right now. Like you said its Plan F. We're way past the G Leaguer's stigma stage all the while fighting the cap aprons, no picks, old legs, praying for a buyout player, and the other team in LA dropping a nuke on us and the entire league. Things have changed. Its not that league that you think it is anymore.

Any two-way player worth an NBA contract already has one or will very soon. There's no stigma. Amir Coffey worked his way up from undrafted to the G-League to an actual contract. That makes him a hero in my eyes.

But name the last 5 G-League MVPs. Go ahead. If you're any good, you don't hang around long enough in G-League to win an MVP.

No arguments here, but our cupboards are literally bare right now roster wise. Bogban had nothing but DNP's in ATL and will miss a couple games with us for "conditioning reasons", whatever that means. If he doesn't pan out this team could be screwed. Maybe Ben Simmons can run point and give Harden a much needed breather, but he doesn't shoot nor score which is another issue to tackle. We'll see what happens, but the G League brethren are locked, loaded, and ready to go!