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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#101 » by blazza18 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:58 am

Matches Malone wrote:I want to be mad at Horst, but then I think about the moves that could have been that ultimately got squashed by the Owners or Giannis. Passing on Atkinson for Doc was an abomination. Jimmy Haslem is a cancer that needs to be cut out of our organization. One of you needs to become a billionaire already and buy some of the team lol.


I will be mad for you. Remember Adrian Griffin? How do you do an extensive search and end up with him in your top three candidates but not Jordi Fernandez? Atkinson would've been fine but going with an actual good young coach when you had the chance would've been huge for us post Bud.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#102 » by WeMajor34 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:58 am

Kuzma wasn’t good tonight. He also wasn’t atrocious. I didn’t like the trade but I’m also not going to base my thoughts on one game of basketball. I’ll give him some more time. I think it’s going to be a clunky fit with Giannis, but I really want to be proven wrong.

This team actually needs someone like Porter Jr, as crazy as that sounds. No ball handling outside of Giannis and Dame. Has the ability to create his own shot too. Hopefully he helps our bench out. (Also I don’t want to preface every Porter Jr thought with “he sucks as a person” this whole season. It simply goes without saying.)

Please give Sims a try. He’s not great but this team is dying for some athleticism at any position. I would be happy if he threw down a dunk a game with some defensive/offensive rebounds mixed in. We need to try something other than Brook and Bobby.

This team is a big ol’ mess. A lot of coin-flip players who don’t bring it night-to-night, including Dame at times.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#103 » by msiris » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:59 am

MVP2110 wrote:
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MVP2110 wrote:It's ok to think Kuzma needs more time but anyone acting like he played well tonight is just trying to be optimistic. If we get this Kuzma the rest of the year then the season is over. He was bad, and what's worrisome is he was bad in the same way he was bad in Washington
He pretty much stood at the 3pt line.


4/13 shooting, more turnovers then assists, and was -15. It's ok to say he was bad.
We didn't lose because of it. We lost becase we couldn't stop anything inside and decided to jack up 50 3s. Boddy scored well but his d was bad Dame was bad as well..
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#104 » by Neuromancer56 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:59 am

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stillgotgame wrote:Clueless rookie coach: 30-13
Doc Rivers: 46-46


That’s pretty funny. Prunty should probably be the coach

Not to defend Doc, but Griff had a super easy schedule. Anyone could have gone 30-13 with that schedule.
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Post#105 » by Neuromancer56 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:01 am

BigO wrote:Just turned to realGM just in time after reading the boxscore.

Kyle Kuzma defintiely a difference maker with huge negative plus/minus and his usual inefficient shooting.

I believe anyone who wanted to trade KM should be banned for one year on this board.

And anyone who thought trading KM for Kyle Kuzma was a good idea should be banned for two years.

I never said this before now. Tear it down. That means new GM, new coach and get rid of everyone but Giannis.

I can't stand self immolation, which is what the Bucks did.

If this goes the way it looks, we may now get the Giannis request to be traded.

And anyone who wanted to trade BP has no clue. There, I think I've covered everything and everyone.

I think the only one who wanted to trade KM for Kuzma was Horst. Ban him all you like.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#106 » by Neuromancer56 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:04 am

Kuzma sucks but ffs it took Dame a year with the Bucks to figure things out. Let's give Kuzma a bit more than 1 game.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#107 » by kanyon » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:06 am

Use Sims to spell Brook some. If he sucks, whatever but why not try it now?
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#108 » by Willie Colon » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:07 am

MVP2110 wrote:
msiris wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:It's ok to think Kuzma needs more time but anyone acting like he played well tonight is just trying to be optimistic. If we get this Kuzma the rest of the year then the season is over. He was bad, and what's worrisome is he was bad in the same way he was bad in Washington
He pretty much stood at the 3pt line.


4/13 shooting, more turnovers then assists, and was -15. It's ok to say he was bad.


It's also ok to give him props for showing some promising signs.

Context matters. He missed a few heat checks when we were on a nice run. Oh well. He had 4 total misses in the second half. One of them was a nice drive to the hoop that got stuffed. It was just a fantastic defensive play. He missed a 3 with 7 seconds left. Tough. He also missed a last second 3 at the end of the first half where he was really just trying to beat the buzzer. We were up by like 20 at that point.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#109 » by msiris » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:08 am

Neuromancer56 wrote:Kuzma sucks but ffs it took Dame a year with the Bucks to figure things out. Let's give Kuzma a bit more than 1 game.
I don't know if he figured it out yet. lol
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#110 » by Willie Colon » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:09 am

msiris wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
msiris wrote:He pretty much stood at the 3pt line.


4/13 shooting, more turnovers then assists, and was -15. It's ok to say he was bad.
We didn't lose because of it. We lost becase we couldn't stop anything inside and decided to jack up 50 3s. Boddy scored well but his d was bad Dame was bad as well..


I think the biggest reason why we lost is because we went scoreless for like 6 minutes straight. We only lost by 5.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#111 » by msiris » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:14 am

Willie Colon wrote:
msiris wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
4/13 shooting, more turnovers then assists, and was -15. It's ok to say he was bad.
We didn't lose because of it. We lost becase we couldn't stop anything inside and decided to jack up 50 3s. Boddy scored well but his d was bad Dame was bad as well..


I think the biggest reason why we lost is because we went scoreless for like 6 minutes straight. We only lost by 5.
They were jacking 3s at point.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#112 » by Neuromancer56 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:16 am

msiris wrote:
Neuromancer56 wrote:Kuzma sucks but ffs it took Dame a year with the Bucks to figure things out. Let's give Kuzma a bit more than 1 game.
I don't know if he figured it out yet. lol

Fair point, but Dame is figuring things out. He's much better playing together with Giannis. I think it's them both starting to figure things out.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#113 » by randy84 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:21 am

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:Team vibe is ruined and unrecognizable.

First round exit vibe? No, I think it's still there.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#114 » by RogerMurdock » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:25 am

rilamann wrote:It's hard to believe Steven Novak actually played in the NBA.

He looks like a dork who would get clowned on by random dudes at the Y.


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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#115 » by randy84 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:34 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:Let's not do the "we would have won with Middleton" thing after each loss. He was in street clothes tonight in Washington. Kuzma was fine.

12 points in 4-13 shots with a -15. He’s exactly what he was on the Wiz. If this is what counts for fine then we’re well and truly screwed.

Well Kuzma did do better than Middleton did the last time Middleton played the Hawks. Middleton was 2-7 for 6 pts., 4 assists, 3 rebs. and 3 TOs. So at least Kuzma has that going for him.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#116 » by randy84 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:36 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Having a cadre of G-league guards while paying $60mm a year to rich man’s Mo Williams won’t cut it.

Mo Williams won a title.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#117 » by randy84 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:45 am

rilamann wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:I want to be mad at Horst, but then I think about the moves that could have been that ultimately got squashed by the Owners or Giannis. Passing on Atkinson for Doc was an abomination. Jimmy Haslem is a cancer that needs to be cut out of our organization. One of you needs to become a billionaire already and buy some of the team lol.



Shout out to you guys who wanted Kenny Atkinson.

I was kind of neutral on Atkinson, I wasn't necessarily hyped about him but I wouldn't have been mad if we hired him. I wanted Nurse.

But I do indeed remember some of you guys shouting from the roof tops that Atkinson should easily be our #1 target to replace Bud.

Bucks would be significantly better off right now had they listened to you guys.

They would be significantly better if they listened to a lot of things I said. Unfortunately, I never worked at FedEx.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#118 » by randy84 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:47 am

blazza18 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:I want to be mad at Horst, but then I think about the moves that could have been that ultimately got squashed by the Owners or Giannis. Passing on Atkinson for Doc was an abomination. Jimmy Haslem is a cancer that needs to be cut out of our organization. One of you needs to become a billionaire already and buy some of the team lol.


I will be mad for you. Remember Adrian Griffin? How do you do an extensive search and end up with him in your top three candidates but not Jordi Fernandez? Atkinson would've been fine but going with an actual good young coach when you had the chance would've been huge for us post Bud.

Because Giannis wanted an ex-player for a coach and didn't like Nick Nurse who was Horst's first choice.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#119 » by Perishable517 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:47 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Having a cadre of G-league guards while paying $60mm a year to rich man’s Mo Williams won’t cut it.
Good call! Specifically the MO comparison.

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Post#120 » by Perishable517 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:49 am

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rilamann wrote:In my over 30 years as a Bucks fan. This might be my most annoying and least favorite Bucks team all-time.

There have been worse Bucks team than this one.

But this is my least favorite team because they are trash, but could actually be pretty damn good if they wanted to be.
Good thing you missed most of the 90s
Oh geez.

Never want to be there again.

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