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GAME 50!: NEW LOOK HEAT SOON, MIA V. NETS, 02/07/25, 7:30PM

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Re: GAME 50!: NEW LOOK HEAT SOON, MIA V. NETS, 02/07/25, 7:30PM 

Post#221 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:35 am

Losses to the Bulls and Nets….this team is teetering on being toast.
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Re: GAME 50!: NEW LOOK HEAT SOON, MIA V. NETS, 02/07/25, 7:30PM 

Post#222 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:35 am

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Wiggins can score if needed. Hes still got high level springs and slices into the paint well.

Hes got almost as many 30 point games as Bam and Tyler combined (49 to 55).


I can't see Jagsmith ever reaching 30 points in his career. The team really needs another scoring threat on the floor.


Let HS man the 10th spot. Perfect for him.

Wiggs should be our 2nd option most nights and our 1st option some nights. His ability to get to the bucket and not get punked like 85% of our guys could help a lot.

Wiggins, Anderson, and Mitchell should all be playing. You traded for them you play them. Highsmith should only see the floor on situational defensive plays.
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Re: GAME 50!: NEW LOOK HEAT SOON, MIA V. NETS, 02/07/25, 7:30PM 

Post#223 » by oreon » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:35 am

DayofMourning wrote:
marson wrote:
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Wiggins can score if needed. Hes still got high level springs and slices into the paint well.

Hes got almost as many 30 point games as Bam and Tyler combined (49 to 55).


I can't see Jagsmith ever reaching 30 points in his career. The team really needs another scoring threat on the floor.


Let HS man the 10th spot. Perfect for him.

Wiggs should be our 2nd option most nights and our 1st option some nights. His ability to get to the bucket and not get punked like 85% of our guys could help a lot.


Herro should remain no 1 option and Bam 2nd option. Seeing if those two and carry the load night to night I think is more important than wins. Wiggins is 29 going 30 I don't consider him part of our future. You hope he plays well. And if this FO is smart they should flip next trade deadline to a contender for a 1st rounder.
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Re: GAME 50!: NEW LOOK HEAT SOON, MIA V. NETS, 02/07/25, 7:30PM 

Post#224 » by DayofMourning » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:39 am

oreon wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
marson wrote:
I can't see Jagsmith ever reaching 30 points in his career. The team really needs another scoring threat on the floor.


Let HS man the 10th spot. Perfect for him.

Wiggs should be our 2nd option most nights and our 1st option some nights. His ability to get to the bucket and not get punked like 85% of our guys could help a lot.


Herro should remain no 1 option and Bam 2nd option. Seeing if those two and carry the load night to night I think is more important than wins. Wiggins is 29 going 30 I don't consider him part of our future. You hope he plays well. And if this FO is smart they should flip next trade deadline to a contender for a 1st rounder.


I dont really look at Bam as a scorer for us.

When I look at Wiggins, I see an athletic slasher on a team without that at all. Keshad. Who else?

He fills a need and points should be available for him.
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Re: GAME 50!: NEW LOOK HEAT SOON, MIA V. NETS, 02/07/25, 7:30PM 

Post#225 » by contract » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:40 am

oreon wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
marson wrote:
I can't see Jagsmith ever reaching 30 points in his career. The team really needs another scoring threat on the floor.


Let HS man the 10th spot. Perfect for him.

Wiggs should be our 2nd option most nights and our 1st option some nights. His ability to get to the bucket and not get punked like 85% of our guys could help a lot.


Herro should remain no 1 option and Bam 2nd option. Seeing if those two and carry the load night to night I think is more important than wins. Wiggins is 29 going 30 I don't consider him part of our future. You hope he plays well. And if this FO is smart they should flip next trade deadline to a contender for a 1st rounder.

I was going to mention this. If we want to have cap space in 2026, we're going to have to let Wiggins go.
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Post#226 » by oreon » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:49 am

DayofMourning wrote:
oreon wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
Let HS man the 10th spot. Perfect for him.

Wiggs should be our 2nd option most nights and our 1st option some nights. His ability to get to the bucket and not get punked like 85% of our guys could help a lot.


Herro should remain no 1 option and Bam 2nd option. Seeing if those two and carry the load night to night I think is more important than wins. Wiggins is 29 going 30 I don't consider him part of our future. You hope he plays well. And if this FO is smart they should flip next trade deadline to a contender for a 1st rounder.


I dont really look at Bam as a scorer for us.

When I look at Wiggins, I see an athletic slasher on a team without that at all. Keshad. Who else?

He fills a need and points should be available for him.


Nah don't let him off the hook. He gonna be making 50 mill. We need him to make the leap Jaren Jackson Jr did for Memphis. And this season we are not going anywhere. So why not give him the shots see if he can. If we loose a couple more games cuz Bam is bricking shots, big deal. We are ending in the play in no matter. But I'd like for the next 30 games for these two to lead them team offensively.
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Post#227 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:57 am

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DayofMourning wrote:
marson wrote:
I can't see Jagsmith ever reaching 30 points in his career. The team really needs another scoring threat on the floor.


Let HS man the 10th spot. Perfect for him.

Wiggs should be our 2nd option most nights and our 1st option some nights. His ability to get to the bucket and not get punked like 85% of our guys could help a lot.

Wiggins, Anderson, and Mitchell should all be playing. You traded for them you play them. Highsmith should only see the floor on situational defensive plays.

I don’t think you insert them especially into an already young squad. Have few runs w/ the new heads in practice & then bring them into fold the nxt 2 games. This was a gm we should’ve handled w/out needing the new acquisitions.
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Post#228 » by Wiltside » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:58 am

Really wish Rozier would GTFO. He’s been a shocker of a pick up. I’d 10x rather see Davion Mitchell get burn than this dude.
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Post#229 » by insfo » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:00 am

oreon wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
oreon wrote:
Herro should remain no 1 option and Bam 2nd option. Seeing if those two and carry the load night to night I think is more important than wins. Wiggins is 29 going 30 I don't consider him part of our future. You hope he plays well. And if this FO is smart they should flip next trade deadline to a contender for a 1st rounder.


I dont really look at Bam as a scorer for us.

When I look at Wiggins, I see an athletic slasher on a team without that at all. Keshad. Who else?

He fills a need and points should be available for him.


Nah don't let him off the hook. He gonna be making 50 mill. We need him to make the leap Jaren Jackson Jr did for Memphis. And this season we are not going anywhere. So why not give him the shots see if he can. If we loose a couple more games cuz Bam is bricking shots, big deal. We are ending in the play in no matter. But I'd like for the next 30 games for these two to lead them team offensively.


Yes, we need to make sure he gets a steady shot diet. No pump fake, rise up and shoot shots and rim runs. Please Spo!

And I also hate that we never go back to the Bam+Ware lineup after the first 6-7 minutes of each half! Today I think they played together a few minutes early in the 4th, but not for long.

And Davion Mitchell better come ready to take over that starting PG spot! I think I've had enough of the Duncan/Herro lineups.
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Post#230 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:00 am

oreon wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
oreon wrote:
Herro should remain no 1 option and Bam 2nd option. Seeing if those two and carry the load night to night I think is more important than wins. Wiggins is 29 going 30 I don't consider him part of our future. You hope he plays well. And if this FO is smart they should flip next trade deadline to a contender for a 1st rounder.


I dont really look at Bam as a scorer for us.

When I look at Wiggins, I see an athletic slasher on a team without that at all. Keshad. Who else?

He fills a need and points should be available for him.


Nah don't let him off the hook. He gonna be making 50 mill. We need him to make the leap Jaren Jackson Jr did for Memphis. And this season we are not going anywhere. So why not give him the shots see if he can. If we loose a couple more games cuz Bam is bricking shots, big deal. We are ending in the play in no matter. But I'd like for the next 30 games for these two to lead them team offensively.


Perhaps more aligned to the thinking of our coaching staff. This is development season for our youngens over wins. The wins will come in future once developed & improved. I agree Bam shld earn every cent of his contract! Loved his aggression today!
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Post#231 » by Voltron914 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:11 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:
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This right here. im not too mad at the loss because these guys just ended one era and about to start a new one on Monday. us fans dont care that Butler is gone because we dont know him personally but seeing him smiling and joking with his new team is like watching your ex get the guy she wanted after a bad break up. GSW Wiggins played within the offense but i hope Spo lets him get into his iso post up bag and gives him a green light to score

Like someone mentioned. Spo probably starts Highsmith first game out lol


Bruh…… if wiggins comes off the bench…. :lol:



the guy already was dealing with depression the past few years we dont want to start him on that path first game here :lol:
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Post#232 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:13 am

I’m fine winning or losing games with Bam and Herro taking 20 shots a night, honestly think it would be fun and lead to some career best games for them. I’m not against potentially having 2 lottery picks this year in the draft to use, trade for or star, or maybe both or even trade up in the draft
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Post#233 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:14 am

Starting to wonder if making the all-star team got to Tyler, his slump started around that time.
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Post#234 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:15 am

If Wiggins is any more than the 3rd option we’ve completely lost the plot.

And I need Mitchell to play such lock down defense that Spo flat out refuses to take him off the court
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Post#235 » by vagelis » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:17 am

DayofMourning wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Need Wiggins scoring on full display Monday. Play him 35 min and have him take 20 shots minimum


That 18 points per game would be huge. Jagsmith's 6 ppg and Jaime's 9 ppg ain't gonna cut it.

We desperately need a reliable third scorer.


Wiggins can score if needed. Hes still got high level springs and slices into the paint well.

Hes got almost as many 30 point games as Bam and Tyler combined (49 to 55).


Wiggins is a scorer and I think Miami will benefit from his scoring.

Warriors and Steve Kerr wanted him just to play defense and score with the flaw of the game.
The ball had to be in the hands of Green and all the players had to run a lot in order Curry or Thompson to get out of screens and shoot.

If Heat give Wiggins the green light to score and give him some screens, I think his numbers can be elevated by a lot.
Wiggins scores 17ppg in his sleep.
And Warriors had him in the sleep mode. They didnt want to break their hierarchy.

I think this trade is a big opportunity for him and he can come back to 22+ ppg
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Post#236 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:28 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If Wiggins is any more than the 3rd option we’ve completely lost the plot.

And I need Mitchell to play such lock down defense that Spo flat out refuses to take him off the court

Team has desperately been needing a valued 3rd option who can also flex into a 1 or 2 option every so often. Andrew has the skill set to be a 20ppg scorer here
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Post#237 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:34 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Starting to wonder if making the all-star team got to Tyler, his slump started around that time.


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Rebounding has been solid, passing has been good but need to get the turnovers down and the scoring has been pretty mediocre, probably need 25 PPG if you’re taking 18 shots.

Could be a rough stretch or could just be Tyler being the Tyler he’s always been. My hopes is it’s just a tough stretch and the first 40 games of the season is who Tyler really is now after development. Only time will tell
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Post#238 » by marson » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:34 am

I can also envision Anderson finishing out games for us. He's a high-IQ veteran who can pass and defend. It seems like we often have mental lapses in the closing minutes, likely because we lack a seasoned player who can steady things and keep calm.

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Bam
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Herro
Mitchell

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Post#239 » by EMC5466 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:35 am

Rozier, Highsmith and JJJ won’t be playing much anymore after tonight. Wiggins, Mitchell and Slow Moe are going to take all of their minutes.
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Post#240 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:38 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If Wiggins is any more than the 3rd option we’ve completely lost the plot.

And I need Mitchell to play such lock down defense that Spo flat out refuses to take him off the court

Team has desperately been needing a valued 3rd option who can also flex into a 1 or 2 option every so often. Andrew has the skill set to be a 20ppg scorer here


He has the tools and he’s had good scoring seasons but he’s never really been efficient in his entire career regardless of role. Would love to get back to use having 3 20 PPG scorers like we had with Jimmy bam and Tyler but we need it to be efficient
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