PG Hawks: One Good Quarter

[fan230]

Our biggest need was to improve poa defense. Did we do that? Probably no unless Porter is good at thst.

Is Kuzma better player than Khris now? No.

Could we have got under the second apron by trading Pat C somewhere, anywhere?

Even if Khris were to take his player option next year, could we firstly not have potentially got a healthy Khris for this year and an expiring contract next year ?

Everywhere there an excitement about Khris plus Portis for Butler or Levine. Whom do we get? A mediocre player Kuzma, clearly so in comparison with Khris.

Whom do we lose? AJ Johnson who arguably had the greatest upside for the future.

Who is our starter? Ajax. A player who is a total zero on offense and whose presence has made our poa defense nothing to write home about.

I am quite disgusted with Horst.

[msiris]

I want to be mad at Horst, but then I think about the moves that could have been that ultimately got squashed by the Owners or Giannis. Passing on Atkinson for Doc was an abomination. Jimmy Haslem is a cancer that needs to be cut out of our organization. One of you needs to become a billionaire already and buy some of the team lol.

Shout out to you guys who wanted Kenny Atkinson.

I was kind of neutral on Atkinson, I wasn't necessarily hyped about him but I wouldn't have been mad if we hired him. I wanted Nurse.

But I do indeed remember some of you guys shouting from the roof tops that Atkinson should easily be our #1 target to replace Bud.

Bucks would be significantly better off right now had they listened to you guys.

They would be significantly better if they listened to a lot of things I said. Unfortunately, I never worked at FedEx.

The Bucks would better off being owned by rgm. lol

[bucksfansince88]

Kuzma wasn’t good tonight. He also wasn’t atrocious. I didn’t like the trade but I’m also not going to base my thoughts on one game of basketball. I’ll give him some more time. I think it’s going to be a clunky fit with Giannis, but I really want to be proven wrong.

This team actually needs someone like Porter Jr, as crazy as that sounds. No ball handling outside of Giannis and Dame. Has the ability to create his own shot too. Hopefully he helps our bench out. (Also I don’t want to preface every Porter Jr thought with “he sucks as a person” this whole season. It simply goes without saying.)

Please give Sims a try. He’s not great but this team is dying for some athleticism at any position. I would be happy if he threw down a dunk a game with some defensive/offensive rebounds mixed in. We need to try something other than Brook and Bobby.

This team is a big ol’ mess. A lot of coin-flip players who don’t bring it night-to-night, including Dame at times.

They just need to fully embrace that the bud era is over and let these young athletic dudes take their lumps with Giannis and Dame the 2nd half of the season. No more running Brook out there 30+ minutes a night especially next to Bobby

[soxperry]

Kuzma needs to adjust his game fast. He takes way too many shots that he has no business attempting. If he just played within himself and made good, quick decisions, he'd be exactly what we need when Giannis and Dame are playing.

it kinda feels like we are dead...and if that's true, then it was always true, we were just living in the illusion that Khris was going to be healthy at some point. i dont think we made that trade for money reasons alone.. i think Khris is toast.

oh well. it was an amazing ride and we are going to get an absolute haul for Giannis, a decent pile for Dame, and probably not much for Kuzma.

on the bright side, we are going to have some exciting young prospects to monitor before you know it. and you'll all forget about AJ Johnson very quickly.

[JayMKE]

**** that cope

I will NEVER forgive Horst and the ownership for squandering Giannis and the good foundation this franchise had, they blew it all up and now we stand looking into the abyss. If these **** are still here post-Giannis then I don't how much I can root for this team. I don't believe in the people running this team and that's with the best player in the world, this poverty franchise is doomed to return to whence it came after it becomes how clear the Herculean carry job Giannis has done the last 12 years. Giannis HAS to outlast these guys because otherwise these **** will botch a rebuild even more than they botched a contender, I'm fine with Giannis going out like Dirk. I have no desire to get a jumpstart on some poo poo platter of **** ass picks **** you

[nagawicka]

We really need to give minutes to Tyler Smith, especially since we have lost AJ Johnson.

Smith vs OKC Feb 3 put up: 12 / 7 / 3 / 2 Steals
Not putting him on the floor seems like a mistake

[JayMKE]

Kuzma looked like you'd expect Kuzma to look

[soboMP3]

Hot takes here are amazing. As always.

[jschligs]

Honestly, I think I need a break from Bucks RealGM, twitter, reddit, all of it. The amount of negativity is just astounding. Good day my gents, I'll be back come playoffs ready (probably sooner) as I try to stay optimistic.

[Siefer]

I'm out of patience with Dre and Prince in the starting lineup together. We've been doing this crap all year too, and it's been suffocating the offense. Dre can't shoot and doesn't do enough around the edges to carry his own weight on offense. Green should be with the starters.

Prince's shooting percentage disguises how little he actually does. He can't do anything with the ball (but occasionally tries anyways), can't shoot unless he's crazy open, and often just stands around. He's Tony Snell 2.0 and at best is a minutes eater. Hopefully Kuzma takes that spot decisively and soon.

[Prez]

I'm out of patience with Dre and Prince in the starting lineup together. We've been doing this crap all year too, and it's been suffocating the offense. Dre can't shoot and doesn't do enough around the edges to carry his own weight on offense. Green should be with the starters.

Prince's shooting percentage disguises how little he actually does. He can't do anything with the ball (but occasionally tries anyways), can't shoot unless he's crazy open, and often just stands around. He's Tony Snell 2.0 and at best is a minutes eater. Hopefully Kuzma takes that spot decisively and soon.

The bizarre part is that Doc doesn't even trust Dre to play starter minutes or even close to it..but he keeps starting him. He half trusts him, half doesn't. In our last 25 games Dre has played and started in 24 of them. In those 24 he's literally only played over 25 minutes twice. 11 times in those 24 games he's logged less than 15 minutes. It's inexplicable. If you don't trust him, he can play his 15 minutes off the bench.

Don't even get me started on how embarrassing it is that Prince is starting. Our starters with Giannis/Dame literally have a negative net rating in over 300 minutes in large part because of this dumb ass lineup choice. Wtf are we doing?

I don't even like Kuzma but just get it over with and start him at the 3, Green or GTJ at the 2.

[old skool]

I feel bad for everyone here thrashing around trying to find a villain to blame.

Kuzma is no good. Lopez is too slow. Ajax can't score. Lillard is overrated. Rivers is a bad coach. Connaughton is still here. The team is too old. Horst didn't make any great trades at the deadline. The Bucks would have won tonight if Middleton was still on the team. Losing tonight would have been tolerable if AJ Johnson was still in Oshkosh. I was right about everything and all of you guys are stupid!

Yeah, it sucks when your team loses. It sucks when you think/hope your team is a contender and you realize they are not. The blaming and negativity towards each other is unfortunate. Hopefully the team turns things around. Hopefully the post-deadline roster is not so top heavy, more balanced and a bit taller, younger and quicker. Hopefully they win more games and play good in the post season. That is what rooting is all about. Hoping for an outcome. There is no benefit from negativity and blame.

The Bucks have a generational superstar in Giannis, a solid HOF veteran in Lillard, good but flawed vets in Lopez, Portis, Prince, Kuzma, Trent, a generally successful NBA coach in Rivers, and ownership that is willing to spend. The Bucks will be back to the 30-something win seasons soon enough. Let's enjoy this winning team while we can. Let's enjoy the hope that they can succeed in May. Let's hope we can avoid saying dumb things based on a small sample and avoid convincing ourselves that we "know" that the team's future is horrible.

Life could be worse. You could be in the Bucks ticket sales department.

Go Bucks.

[fan230]

I feel bad for everyone here thrashing around trying to find a villain to blame.

Kuzma is no good. Lopez is too slow. Ajax can't score. Lillard is overrated. Rivers is a bad coach. Connaughton is still here. The team is too old. Horst didn't make any great trades at the deadline. The Bucks would have won tonight if Middleton was still on the team. Losing tonight would have been tolerable if AJ Johnson was still in Oshkosh. I was right about everything and all of you guys are stupid!

Yeah, it sucks when your team loses. It sucks when you think/hope your team is a contender and you realize they are not. The blaming and negativity towards each other is unfortunate. Hopefully the team turns things around. Hopefully the post-deadline roster is not so top heavy, more balanced and a bit taller, younger and quicker. Hopefully they win more games and play good in the post season. That is what rooting is all about. Hoping for an outcome. There is no benefit from negativity and blame.

The Bucks have a generational superstar in Giannis, a solid HOF veteran in Lillard, good but flawed vets in Lopez, Portis, Prince, Kuzma, Trent, a generally successful NBA coach in Rivers, and ownership that is willing to spend. The Bucks will be back to the 30-something win seasons soon enough. Let's enjoy this winning team while we can. Let's enjoy the hope that they can succeed in May. Let's hope we can avoid saying dumb things based on a small sample and avoid convincing ourselves that we "know" that the team's future is horrible.

Life could be worse. You could be in the Bucks ticket sales department.

Go Bucks.

Thanks. Feel upset sometimes. Still love the Bucks. Go Bucks.

[tedbrogen]

Why are Prince and Brook getting so many minutes when they contribute almost nothing if the threes are not falling?

The biggest issue with this team is trying to play a drop coverage center in a five out league. It only works if you have absolutely elite POA defense from guys who can fight over screens and recover from behind. They don’t have that. Outside of Dame though, they do have decent length from guys who can kind of stay in front of their man assuming Brook and Prince are not out there. And even Dame can stay between his man and the basket most of the time, he just gets backed down in switches a lot. That’s why the second quarter lineup with Bobby and Kuz looked decent defensively and got stops, they switched or blitzed everything and it made the Hawks uncomfortable. Just letting a PG use a ball screen to walk into the lane and cause all the offball guys to have to shift to help completely collapses the defense while letting the offense get easy shots at will.

[tonyreyes123]

Kuzma was -15 out there. How is that a good game?

[RiotPunch]

PSA:

Fans do Fandom in different ways. I've seen posts on here, on Reddit, on Twitter, etc. calling out fans who are being highly critical of the team, their (lack of) direction, where they have fallen short, and claiming that is not how being a fan is supposed to be.

At the end of the day, we're all rooting for the Bucks. If you feel better rolling with all of the decisions that are made with a rosy Go Bucks Go attitude, more power to ya. But don't give me the holier than thou bull just because a faction of the fanbase vehemently disagrees with the decisions being made. We are every bit the fan you are, and want the best for our Bucks. Holding decision makers, coaches, players accountable is all part of being a fan.

/endrant

[aboveAverage]

What is Giannis out with?

[Dick Tate]

Just turned to realGM just in time after reading the boxscore.

Kyle Kuzma defintiely a difference maker with huge negative plus/minus and his usual inefficient shooting.

I believe anyone who wanted to trade KM should be banned for one year on this board.

And anyone who thought trading KM for Kyle Kuzma was a good idea should be banned for two years.

I never said this before now. Tear it down. That means new GM, new coach and get rid of everyone but Giannis.

I can't stand self immolation, which is what the Bucks did.

If this goes the way it looks, we may now get the Giannis request to be traded.

And anyone who wanted to trade BP has no clue. There, I think I've covered everything and everyone.

Box score analysis rocks! But I will say you should ban yourself for declaring AJ Green was a player.
(I will show myself the door as well since I had wanted him to start since day 1 this season)
Unfortunate… the team really needed him to step up this season and he hasn’t been able to deliver. As a result, now we have to cheer for Porter.

[pifhluk23]

Brook is playing way too many minutes 32 vs Horford 26. It's so easy to notice too, he's a completely different player when he has rest. He should be sitting b2bs too.

[MickeyDavis]

What is Giannis out with?

Calf. Same thing that derailed last season. Have to be very careful with it.