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TheBallsDeeper wrote:Sixers know they are cooked with the PG contract for the next few years. These trades aren't about winning - they know they can't win, so they might as well save money.
It's a business. Championships make money, if you are not competing you need to work out how to still make a profit.
NearingZero wrote:phillynative wrote:I know hes a shooter but does anyone know if he has any on ball ability to compliment Maxey?
Like bringing the ball up when Maxey is being denyed or even making a play with the ball if he's open?
He was very 3pt heavy even in college and didn't put up much in the way of assists. That said, some people think he can be more than a spot-up shooter:
https://thesmokingcuban.com/dallas-mavericks-jason-kidd-unlocking-quentin-grimes-ways-knicks-never-daredOftentimes, Grimes is asked to come off the bench where he can help run the second unit with his underrated ball handling and scoring capabilities.
But they traded him even after trading their most ball-dominant player, so I wouldn't expect all that much on-ball ability from him.
Arsenal wrote:Good first game. This dude should start next to Maxey in the backcourt.
phillynative wrote:Arsenal wrote:Good first game. This dude should start next to Maxey in the backcourt.
Yea he compliments Maxey and the two gimp. I would prefer we had a better shotcreator/ playmaker next to Maxey so he can play off the ball but I like what I saw from him. I don't understand why we held on to Gordon once we got him
Park him right next to Maxey in the backcourt
Welcome Grimes! Do you want to play for the Rox cause you have no future here demanding twice as much as Caleb? Tell them to trade Springer for you, okay cause he was basically our young Marcus Smart when he was here.phillynative wrote:Arsenal wrote:Good first game. This dude should start next to Maxey in the backcourt.
Yea he compliments Maxey and the two gimp. I would prefer we had a better shotcreator/ playmaker next to Maxey so he can play off the ball but I like what I saw from him. I don't understand why we held on to Gordon once we got him
Park him right next to Maxey in the backcourt
WentzerWuver wrote:Welcome Grimes! Do you want to play for the Rox cause you have no future here demanding twice as much as Caleb? Tell them to trade Springer for you, okay cause he was basically our young Marcus Smart when he was here.phillynative wrote:Arsenal wrote:Good first game. This dude should start next to Maxey in the backcourt.
Yea he compliments Maxey and the two gimp. I would prefer we had a better shotcreator/ playmaker next to Maxey so he can play off the ball but I like what I saw from him. I don't understand why we held on to Gordon once we got him
Park him right next to Maxey in the backcourt
https://youtu.be/pmhGDFYGHpU?si=Da9dJJHBqXMID2kc
When you are playing him as a 4 on NBA 2K? ...don't quit your day job if you were actually serious.phillynative wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:Welcome Grimes! Do you want to play for the Rox cause you have no future here demanding twice as much as Caleb? Tell them to trade Springer for you, okay cause he was basically our young Marcus Smart when he was here.phillynative wrote:
Yea he compliments Maxey and the two gimp. I would prefer we had a better shotcreator/ playmaker next to Maxey so he can play off the ball but I like what I saw from him. I don't understand why we held on to Gordon once we got him
Park him right next to Maxey in the backcourt
https://youtu.be/pmhGDFYGHpU?si=Da9dJJHBqXMID2kc
Jaden Springer is a PF not a guard
When you are playing him as a 4 on NBA 2K? ...don't quit your day job if you were actually serious.WentzerWuver wrote:phillynative wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:Welcome Grimes! Do you want to play for the Rox cause you have no future here demanding twice as much as Caleb? Tell them to trade Springer for you, okay cause he was basically our young Marcus Smart when he was here.
https://youtu.be/pmhGDFYGHpU?si=Da9dJJHBqXMID2kc
Jaden Springer is a PF not a guard
the_process wrote:NearingZero wrote:phillynative wrote:I know hes a shooter but does anyone know if he has any on ball ability to compliment Maxey?
Like bringing the ball up when Maxey is being denyed or even making a play with the ball if he's open?
He was very 3pt heavy even in college and didn't put up much in the way of assists. That said, some people think he can be more than a spot-up shooter:
https://thesmokingcuban.com/dallas-mavericks-jason-kidd-unlocking-quentin-grimes-ways-knicks-never-daredOftentimes, Grimes is asked to come off the bench where he can help run the second unit with his underrated ball handling and scoring capabilities.
But they traded him even after trading their most ball-dominant player, so I wouldn't expect all that much on-ball ability from him.
Dallas is obviously primarily concerned with cost.
He just wants to get paid regardless of the minutes. Once he gets paid, he doesn't mind being bench all game. Max cares about playing over money. Once he finds out Morey won't pay him Caleb type money going over the apron, he be gone too in FA this offseason. Time to bring back Springer as our young Marcus Smart defender.M2J wrote:the_process wrote:NearingZero wrote:He was very 3pt heavy even in college and didn't put up much in the way of assists. That said, some people think he can be more than a spot-up shooter:
https://thesmokingcuban.com/dallas-mavericks-jason-kidd-unlocking-quentin-grimes-ways-knicks-never-dared
But they traded him even after trading their most ball-dominant player, so I wouldn't expect all that much on-ball ability from him.
Dallas is obviously primarily concerned with cost.
Supposedly Grimes agent pushed for this trade due to Max Christie coming in and eating into his minutes. They want to get paid this summer.
WentzerWuver wrote:He just wants to get paid regardless of the minutes. Once he gets paid, he doesn't mind being bench all game. Max cares about playing over money. Once he finds out Morey won't pay him Caleb type money going over the apron, he be gone too in FA this offseason. Time to bring back Springer as our young Marcus Smart defender.M2J wrote:the_process wrote:
Dallas is obviously primarily concerned with cost.
Supposedly Grimes agent pushed for this trade due to Max Christie coming in and eating into his minutes. They want to get paid this summer.
Caleb was about a million more per which I rather pay over Grime or Max. Apparently no one realize how he stepped up big time in the playoff, especially game 7 making Tatum look like a scrub. He was like a young playoff Jimmy, unless having a beard confuses you with Harden in a game 7 LolM2J wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:He just wants to get paid regardless of the minutes. Once he gets paid, he doesn't mind being bench all game. Max cares about playing over money. Once he finds out Morey won't pay him Caleb type money going over the apron, he be gone too in FA this offseason. Time to bring back Springer as our young Marcus Smart defender.M2J wrote:
Supposedly Grimes agent pushed for this trade due to Max Christie coming in and eating into his minutes. They want to get paid this summer.
Well Max Christie already is in a Caleb type deal and teams play the guys they pay, so he saw the writing on the wall in Dallas. Grimes is a restricted free agent, so the market will tell.... But I think 8-9 mil for sure.
WentzerWuver wrote:Caleb was about a million more per which I rather pay over Grime or Max. Apparently no one realize how he stepped up big time in the playoff, especially game 7 making Tatum look like a scrub. He was like a young playoff Jimmy, unless having a beard confuses you with Harden in a game 7 LolM2J wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:He just wants to get paid regardless of the minutes. Once he gets paid, he doesn't mind being bench all game. Max cares about playing over money. Once he finds out Morey won't pay him Caleb type money going over the apron, he be gone too in FA this offseason. Time to bring back Springer as our young Marcus Smart defender.
Well Max Christie already is in a Caleb type deal and teams play the guys they pay, so he saw the writing on the wall in Dallas. Grimes is a restricted free agent, so the market will tell.... But I think 8-9 mil for sure.
https://youtube.com/shorts/2Ac1dO1rDcE?si=W4hP8eQKeSP36wDW
The Heat wanted to pay Caleb double what we were paying him cause maybe he wanted more playing time or prefer playing with Embiid like PG did. I'm still upset we traded him for Grimes but the Mavs definitely wanted him for the playoffs when it matters!
M2J wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:Caleb was about a million more per which I rather pay over Grime or Max. Apparently no one realize how he stepped up big time in the playoff, especially game 7 making Tatum look like a scrub. He was like a young playoff Jimmy, unless having a beard confuses you with Harden in a game 7 LolM2J wrote:
Well Max Christie already is in a Caleb type deal and teams play the guys they pay, so he saw the writing on the wall in Dallas. Grimes is a restricted free agent, so the market will tell.... But I think 8-9 mil for sure.
https://youtube.com/shorts/2Ac1dO1rDcE?si=W4hP8eQKeSP36wDW
The Heat wanted to pay Caleb double what we were paying him cause maybe he wanted more playing time or prefer playing with Embiid like PG did. I'm still upset we traded him for Grimes but the Mavs definitely wanted him for the playoffs when it matters!
I agree to an extent. Caleb was a prize of the off-season, and if they had a big 3 clicking on all cylinders... He makes it all better. But, they needed to pivot for 3 reasons.
1. Needed more shooting without defensive liability.... That was the priority for this deadline IMO. I didn't care what position it came from. Fact that it came from the actual 2 guard position is a bonus. Even though, I know many believe that another playmaker for Maxey to play off of helps more, I think a better system and pace creates those opportunities for him to play off ball. Plus playing off of his max teammates when they choose to appear in games.
2. Fit a timeline for Maxey
3. Get someone that actually plays the games to help Maxey
M2J wrote:the_process wrote:NearingZero wrote:He was very 3pt heavy even in college and didn't put up much in the way of assists. That said, some people think he can be more than a spot-up shooter:
https://thesmokingcuban.com/dallas-mavericks-jason-kidd-unlocking-quentin-grimes-ways-knicks-never-dared
But they traded him even after trading their most ball-dominant player, so I wouldn't expect all that much on-ball ability from him.
Dallas is obviously primarily concerned with cost.
Supposedly Grimes agent pushed for this trade due to Max Christie coming in and eating into his minutes. They want to get paid this summer.
the_process wrote:M2J wrote:the_process wrote:
Dallas is obviously primarily concerned with cost.
Supposedly Grimes agent pushed for this trade due to Max Christie coming in and eating into his minutes. They want to get paid this summer.
I read somewhere he turned down 3-27? Only BKN has room this summer though, so chances he gets any offer over the NTMLE are almost zero. You are going to have to give the guy over 10 probably. 3-36 seems like a happy medium?